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Israel is a state. Not a race. So your statement is inapplicable to me.
Israel is a group of peoples.

Be proud and embrace what you are spreading.

But at least you admit that doing what I described is Hate Speech. Does Geno qualify? You've challenged him on some of his lies.
 
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Israel is a group of peoples.

Be proud and embrace what you are spreading.

But at least you admit that doing what I described is Hate Speech. Does Geno qualify? You've challenged him on some of his lies.
Yeah, a multi ethnic, multi religious, multicultural state. Criticism of states and their actions do not qualify as hate speech as it is not directed at any particular people for their ethnicity.
 

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Yeah, a multi ethnic, multi religious, multicultural state. Criticism of states and their actions do not qualify as hate speech as it is not directed at any particular people for their ethnicity.
Clearly Israel is regarded as "the Jewish State". Just as you and the rest of the TERB KKK often refer to them. They are not a secular state, you say. An ethno-state.

As such your point is irrelevant.
 

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Clearly Israel is regarded as "the Jewish State". Just as you and the rest of the TERB KKK often refer to them. They are not a secular state, you say. An ethno-state.

As such your point is irrelevant.
And Judaism is a religion. Not a race. Neither is criticism of a state hate speech, nor is criticism of a religion or political philosophy such as Zionism hate speech. As such your accusations are irrelevant.
 

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You just can't get around the fact that neither the UNGA nor SC has passed any resolution decrying Israel of genocide.

All you have is Bizarro Logic.
I'm just laughing at this being your last defence against genocide, hammy.
Some imaginary need for a UN resolution, cuz by every other single metric on the planet you're backing genocide like the nazis backed.

I mean, check out the shit you support and still think is morally superiour.

 

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Clearly Israel is regarded as "the Jewish State". Just as you and the rest of the TERB KKK often refer to them. They are not a secular state, you say. An ethno-state.

As such your point is irrelevant.
20% of Israel is supposed to be Israeli Arabs but now you say they aren't part of the country?
That's its only an apartheid, Jewish state?

You used to argue Israel was the only democracy, now you're saying its apartheid?
 

shack

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And Judaism is a religion. Not a race. Neither is criticism of a state hate speech, nor is criticism of a religion or political philosophy such as Zionism hate speech. As such your accusations are irrelevant.
You are wrong. Geno says that Jews are a race.
You think there has only been prejudice against the Jewish people and no other races through history,
As such, he is verifying that you are guilty of hate speech against the Jewish race.
 

shack

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I'm just laughing at this being your last defence against genocide, hammy.
I don't defend genocide, Geno.

This is simply my reply to your false allegations of genocide and apartheid. Until the UN, whom you've declared is the world's moral authority that we must obey, passes a resolution supporting your false claims, AKA hate speech, I don't need any other arguments. I'm sticking with this that is working perfectly well. I know your inability to refute my point frustrates and infuriates you, but it is what is. A FACT. DEAL WITH IT. You need to accept the UN's non-ruling of genocide.

He who has the last laugh, lasts best, Geno, and I'm laughing at your futility to back up your claims. The joke is on you.
 

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You are wrong. Geno says that Jews are a race.

As such, he is verifying that you are guilty of hate speech against the Jewish race.
He made the demarcation to say prejudice against "Jewish people" and "other races". Jewish people are a religious demographic. Other races are ethnic or racial demographic. And prejudice can exist against religious groups or against ethnic/racial groups. So no, Frank is not claiming Jews are a race.
 

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I don't defend genocide, Geno.

This is simply my reply to your false allegations of genocide and apartheid. Until the UN, whom you've declared is the world's moral authority that we must obey, passes a resolution supporting your false claims, AKA hate speech, I don't need any other arguments. I'm sticking with this that is working perfectly well. I know your inability to refute my point frustrates and infuriates you, but it is what is. A FACT. DEAL WITH IT. You need to accept the UN's non-ruling of genocide.

He who has the last laugh, lasts best, Geno, and I'm laughing at your futility to back up your claims. The joke is on you.
Adding stupid qualifiers to argue that you don't defend genocide doesn't work hammy.
Israel is committing genocide, your refusal to admit this doesn't make you innocent, it makes you willfully ignorant.

Do you think nazis who knew what was going on and pretended it was nothing were also innocent?

 

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shack

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He made the demarcation to say prejudice against "Jewish people" and "other races".
Regardless of the context, he referred to "Jews and other races". My point stands. Geno correctly labelled Jews as a race.

As such whatever else you have to say on this matter of whether Jews are a race or not are irrelevant.
 

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Regardless of the context, he referred to "Jews and other races". My point stands. Geno correctly labelled Jews as a race.

As such whatever else you have to say on this matter of whether Jews are a race or not are irrelevant.
It is a matter of irrefutable fact that Jews are a multi-ethnic, religious demographic. They are by no means a race. The demarcation in Frank's language was explicit and clear. You don't have a point here and calling a religious group a race, is hilariously flawed. Your take on this, and your accusations are therefore irrelevant and amount to gobbledygook.
 

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No, shack, Jews are not a race.
Now you have resorted to a lie and completely contradict yourself.

So the only racism that counts as racism is antisemitism, since no other race are humans.
You think there has only been prejudice against the Jewish people and no other races through history, hammy?
So here are 2 recent posts of yours where you undeniably refer to Jews as being a race.
 
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shack

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Show us the UN resolution that saying Israel is committing genocide is hate speech, hammy.
Hate speech laws and hate speech definitions are set by each individual country, not the UN. Do you think that hate speech laws in Canada are the same as in N. Korea. Meanwhile, closer to home:

What is the legal definition of hate speech in Canada?

Willful promotion of hatred is a criminal offence in Canada. Willful promotion of hatred means to make “statements” in public that willfully or intentionally promote hate against an “identifiable group.” Unlike public incitement of hatred, willful promotion of hatred does not have to involve a breach of the peace.


In light of Canada's definition of hate speech, I can now completely understand why you get so upset when somebody asks you a personal question and you accuse people of trying to out you.
 

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Regardless of the context, he referred to "Jews and other races". My point stands. Geno correctly labelled Jews as a race.

As such whatever else you have to say on this matter of whether Jews are a race or not are irrelevant.
There are no biological races of humans, hammy.
Race is not defined by genetics, but by culture, religion and geography. And sometimes by skin colour, though that changes over generations as well.
 

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Hate speech laws and hate speech definitions are set by each individual country, not the UN. Do you think that hate speech laws in Canada are the same as in N. Korea. Meanwhile, closer to home:

What is the legal definition of hate speech in Canada?

Willful promotion of hatred is a criminal offence in Canada. Willful promotion of hatred means to make “statements” in public that willfully or intentionally promote hate against an “identifiable group.” Unlike public incitement of hatred, willful promotion of hatred does not have to involve a breach of the peace.

In light of Canada's definition of hate speech, I can now completely understand why you get so upset when somebody asks you a personal question and you accuse people of trying to out you.
You are promoting genocide, hammy, its you that is guilty of hate speech.
The punishment is up to 5 years, hammy.

318 (1) Every one who advocates or promotes genocide is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.
Definition of genocide
(2) In this section, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy in whole or in part any identifiable group, namely,
(a) killing members of the group; or
(b) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction
 

shack

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There are no biological races of humans, hammy.
Race is not defined by genetics, but by culture, religion and geography. And sometimes by skin colour, though that changes over generations as well.
Nothing to debate here. I proved that you referred to Jews a race. Now you laughingly, and poorly, try to walk it back.
 

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