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Kautilya said:
The one thing to note though, is that the US did not have the kind of relationship with South Africa that they do with Israel. But I agree with the last statement. In the US though, the votes lost might not be so much due to support for Palestine but more due to people not wanting American tax payer money going to Israel. I genuinely hope that day comes. If American support for Israel is weakened, this conflict will come to an end due to international pressure.
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It wasn't far off, same with Canada, the country backed South Africa until it became too unpopular.
We'll see what happens, but the university protests are looking very Vietnam to Gaza's Tet offensive.

It just gets worse and worse for the US every day.
And there is an election coming up.

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Butler1000 said:
All bluster and no ideas? Guess what Eggo, if you can't step up to the plate, you can't play the game. Frankie has you on the run too. When you want to join the adult table, feel free to refute what I said with something real. A concrete origional idea or premise.
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That’s a quote from the Roman historian Tacitus, lol.
 
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Frankfooter said:
I think a far better comparison is apartheid South Africa.
Up until 2008 Mandela and the AFC were labelled as terrorists by the US.
Global action, protests and BDS like sanctions were what ended apartheid, that's what finally forced governments to act.

So governments supporting Israel will continue to do so until the votes lost supporting Israel outweigh the cash coming in from AIPAC.
We are likely at that moment now, though the governments don't know it yet.
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The US will always support Israel, no matter what!!
 
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Kautilya said:
The one thing to note though, is that the US did not have the kind of relationship with South Africa that they do with Israel. But I agree with the last statement. In the US though, the votes lost might not be so much due to support for Palestine but more due to people not wanting American tax payer money going to Israel. I genuinely hope that day comes. If American support for Israel is weakened, this conflict will come to an end due to international pressure.
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No, it's more like the American voters don't want all that tax money going to Ukraine, when Ukraine has absolutely no chance of winning the war with Russia!!
 
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mitchell76 said:
No, it's more like the American voters don't want all that tax money going to Ukraine, when Ukraine has absolutely no chance of winning the war with Russia!!
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Righties have been saying "Ukraine has no chance" since February 2022. Let me know when Ukraine loses, Mitchy?

Two and a half years is a long, long time to "be losing" a war.

While you're at it, read the Russian casualty losses and tell me what model tanks the Russians are driving these days?
 
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Kautilya said:
Sure. They can feel what they want to feel but that is on them.
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No. Nobody else can tell them how they feel. Can I tell you that you support Israel?

Kautilya said:
No such statistics, or analysis, paralysis are needed, because you do not know stats contrary to what I stated either.
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You made the claim of 99.99%. As such I am totally justified to question how you arrived at these claims. You have no idea. You pulled them out of your ass. What are your sources?


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The vast majority of protests are legal and lawful and have been. The few cases where there have been issues, have been dealt with. That is all you and I need to know.
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Actually, you need to back up your claims with statistical facts. I need to know what the facts are, not your fabricated and admittedly anti-Israeli biased claims.

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The fact that they were infact allowed to protest without consequences would negate your uninformed statements on legality and the law, both of which you are not an expert on.
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You have no expertise. Are you saying that being forced to cease their protests is not a consequence?
 
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Kautilya said:
No one is telling them how to feel. If they "feel intimidated" by the protests, they can continue feeling that way. This is solely their problem and nothing needs to be done about it.

Absolutely no statistics, or analysis paralysis is needed to make these claims.

Are the vast majority of protests allowed? Yes.
Have any protests been shut down? Most likely no. If at all they have been, probably can count on both hands.
Have some disruptive people been removed and charged? Yes.

Hence 99.99% is a reasonable number and no further justification is needed. Also this shows that protests are a non-issue.

No expertise is needed to report what is observed. The fact of the matter is almost all protests are allowed to take place without consequences.
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You have reached the point of Bizarro debating for me to no longer engage you. I only deal with reality.

Yet you felt the need to question my expertise. LOL.
 
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ICC war crimes prosecutors interviewed Gaza hospital staff: report

Prosecutors from the International Criminal Court (ICC) have interviewed staff from Gaza’s two biggest hospitals, two sources have told the Reuters news agency.
The prosecutors from the world court in The Hague have reportedly spoken to staff from al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City and Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis, Reuters said.
This is the first confirmation the ICC is speaking to medics about possible crimes in the Gaza Strip, Reuters said, though it noted the sources asked not to be named due to the sensitivity of the subject.
The ICC’s office of the prosecutor said it could not comment due to the need to ensure the safety of victims and witnesses.
Israel has repeatedly besieged hospitals in the Gaza Strip, with Palestinian officials calling for investigations in recent days after hundreds of bodies were exhumed from mass graves at both Nasser and al-Shifa Hospitals.
 
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The ICJ is about to rule whether Germany is aiding genocide.
This would be court ordered BDS.

Nicaragua’s five requests to the ICJ

During the court hearing earlier this month, Nicaragua requested five provisional measures.
They include:
*Last week, the German government announced it plans to resume cooperation with UNRWA following a report into the agency’s ability to ensure neutrality.
 
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Kautilya said:
I don't think it will be successful though because Germany can adopt its own foreign policy. Plus no one is going to ask Germany to go against Israel. They are in perpetual apology mode (as is the west in general) even though they don't owe them anything today.
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The Nicaragua application was not successful.
 
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Kautilya said:
I don't think it will be successful though because Germany can adopt its own foreign policy. Plus no one is going to ask Germany to go against Israel. They are in perpetual apology mode (as is the west in general) even though they don't owe them anything today.
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It wasn't successful, the ICJ said that there needs to be a conviction for genocide to rule that Germany is aiding genocide.
Its still a warning to other countries, or should be.
Canada included.

Today's news is that should Israel attack Rafah they will block all men of age from leaving.
Srebenica revisited.

www.middleeasteye.net

Israel planning ring of checkpoints to prevent men from fleeing Rafah, source says

Israel is reportedly setting up a 'complex network' of checkpoints to prevent 'military age' men from fleeing Rafah assault, says senior western official
www.middleeasteye.net www.middleeasteye.net

Jonathan Cook paints a pretty dark picture of what might happen.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1785268165997371786
 
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