The complexities of Sudan

Frankfooter

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So what your saying is that nobody is lifting a finger to help Hamas, despite what frank said. I keep telling him that.

Hamas are hated worldwide as much as frank is TERBwide. Nobody likes terrorists, even if they are keyboard terrorists. I'm looking forward to a good laugh when he replies.
Besides Yemen?
And the rest of the world?

Its happening.
 

nottyboi

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So how many Zionists are we talking about here? How many Israelis are Zionists in Israel? Did Hamas only kill Zionists on Oct.7 or did they kill any non-Zionists Jews whom you love.

You think that all Jews in Israel are Zionists so you hate them all. As long as you refuse tell us what you think the ratio is, my claim stands. You blame and hate all Israeli Jews and you have not refuted it which means you accept it at face value.
Based on latest polls at least 84% of israels are zionists.
 

Frankfooter

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Who ran these polls? Do you have a link.

IF that number is accurate frank hates only 84% of Israelis. The other 16% can live.

shack counter:
17 accusations of lying, 28 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof

Its only zionists who think that killing entire peoples are the goal.
I back ceasefire, the end of the occupation/apartheid and equal rights.
Not genocide of either side.

The NYT is being shut down over their Hasbara propaganda.
 

shack

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I back ceasefire,
Yes, you've already admitted that that means you back the killing of as many Palis as possible.

1)You've been calling for a ceasefire every day since Oct. That is 5 months.

2)More Palestinians have died every day since Oct.

You cannot deny those 2 statements.

So we come to the universally accepted statement:

Only an insane person would keep doing the same thing over and over and over again and expect a different result.

So the only possible conclusions are that you are either insane or that it doesn't bother you that more Palestinians die every day. Take whichever choice you want.
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Frankfooter

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Yes, you've already admitted that that means you back the killing of as many Palis as possible.[
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Only an insane person would keep doing the same thing over and over and over again and expect a different result.
Israel has been trying to steal Palestinian lands for 75 years and killing Palestinians to do it.
You expect a different result this time through genocide?


You think the world will love you after you keep doing this to kids?

 

shack

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shack counter:
17 accusations of lying, 29 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof
You are over 1,948,000 lies. LOL

Israel has been trying to steal Palestinian lands for 75 years and killing Palestinians to do it.
You expect a different result this time through genocide?
This contradicts your claims that Israel has been expanding its' borders.

So which is it, have they failed in gaining territory as this post implies or have they been gaining territory? Make up your mind.

But there is no ambiguity that your hundreds of calls for a ceasefire since Oct.7 have had absolutely ZERO effect, other than the needless deaths of 30,000 Palis. Needless because a surrender would have prevented them.

But it's interesting to see you pivot to Israel instead of trying to disprove my claim that you are either insane or are really cheering for more Pali deaths. You gave up. LOL You just forgot to tell us when you keep calling for a ceasefire that is nowhere close and more Palis continue to die, whether you are insane or are satisfied with the deaths.
 

Frankfooter

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You are over 1,948,000 lies. LOL

This contradicts your claims that Israel has been expanding its' borders.

So which is it, have they failed in gaining territory as this post implies or have they been gaining territory? Make up your mind.

But there is no ambiguity that your hundreds of calls for a ceasefire since Oct.7 have had absolutely ZERO effect, other than the needless deaths of 30,000 Palis. Needless because a surrender would have prevented them.

But it's interesting to see you pivot to Israel instead of trying to disprove my claim that you are either insane or are really cheering for more Pali deaths. You gave up. LOL You just forgot to tell us when you keep calling for a ceasefire that is nowhere close and more Palis continue to die, whether you are insane or are satisfied with the deaths.
You sound crazier and crazier every day shack.
 

shack

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You sound crazier and crazier every day shack.
So I am crazy because I point out your contradictions and you have no legitimate response.

Let's try it again.

You've been complaining for years that Israel keeps taking Arab land and expanding their borders because they are colonialists and they want all the land for themselves.

Now you say that Israel is insane, and I quote:

Frankfooter said:
Israel has been trying to steal Palestinian lands for 75 years and killing Palestinians to do it.
You expect a different result this time through genocide?


Mind you, this is also an admission, that in your opinion, Israel has not attempted genocide before. You've been calling Israel out for genocide years before this current conflict began. Man you can't stop contradicting yourself.
 

Frankfooter

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So I am crazy because I point out your contradictions and you have no legitimate response.

Let's try it again.

You've been complaining for years that Israel keeps taking Arab land and expanding their borders because they are colonialists and they want all the land for themselves.

Now you say that Israel is insane, and I quote:

Frankfooter said:
Israel has been trying to steal Palestinian lands for 75 years and killing Palestinians to do it.
You expect a different result this time through genocide?


Mind you, this is also an admission, that in your opinion, Israel has not attempted genocide before. You've been calling Israel out for genocide years before this current conflict began. Man you can't stop contradicting yourself.
Perhaps you need to learn the difference between occupied and settled land.

Israel has occupied Palestine for 75 years.
During that time they continue to slowly push Palestinians off their land and 'settle' there, stealing Palestinian land.

Israel greenlights plans for nearly 3,500 new settlement homes
Defense Ministry body approves projects to build 2,402 new homes in Ma’ale Adumim, 694 homes in Efrat and 330 homes in Keidar after record-breaking year of West Bank expansion


 

basketcase

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I can't imagine why Hamas wouldn't accept a short ceasefire so they can return all the hostages ...
Other than the ICC, ICJ, and UN all demanding the immediate and unconditional release of all of Hamas' hostages.

It's disgusting that instead of 6 weeks of peace and massive influxes of much needed aid, you'd rather just see more Palestinian suffering.


And Hamas' counter-offer is pathetic. They want 1000 Palestinians convicts released including 100 convicted to murder in exchange for 40 women, infants, and the elderly in the first phase and then a full withdrawal of Israelis forces and release of every Palestinian in jail for the remaining 80 or so living hostages.

But you would rather see Hamas stay in power than ease the suffering of Gaza's people because you love using that suffering as part of your crusade to remove the Jews.
 

basketcase

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I already said I do not know much about the Sudanese war. And I have not taken the time to research. So I am not pretending, although am willing to, and do empathize. But I lack the knowledge to further contribute to that discussion.
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And once again you admit you have no clue what you are talking about but still insist on spewing nonsense.

If you actually cared about people, the WFP statements that 25 million people are at emergency levels of starvation would be enough for you, especially as you have based much of your statements on similar tweets.

Instead you and Frank are the same, wanting to bitch about Israel while not actually caring about people.
 

basketcase

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Basketcase, you claimed they were being armed by Western countries through the Saudis and UAE.

These articles claim nothing about Western involvement.

Please show where it states that a western nation donated arms to any faction in these conflicts.
As I said, UAE are arming the sides in Sudan and weapons they purchased from the US are ending up in Sudan. I never claimed that the US was directly sending weapons using UAE as a cut-out like you've interpreted it but it is clear that the US is supplying Saudi and UAE and those states are supplying Sudanese factions.
 

basketcase

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True, that's a real war, not a slaughter of 2 million refugees with no army living in a concentration camp.
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Once again pretending that Palestinians are helpless. Sorry but Hamas is well armed and capable as they showed on the 7th. I know you want them to have advanced weapons to achieve their genocidal aims but most of the world is happy they don't.

p.s. around 8 million Sudanese refugees in this current round.
 

basketcase

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With all of their oil money, why don't the Arab nations just outspend Israel.
He'd rather push conspiracy theories about Jews controlling the world.

Of course he doesn't want to address the massive lobbying in the US by Arab oil powers.
 

basketcase

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Except there are still another 3 million Palestinians living under Israeli rule and 5 million more living in the countries surrounding Israel.
That's a lot of 'terrorists' you still would have to kill.
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You're now saying all Palestinians are active members in terror groups? Interesting.

But I guess that's what you need to do to deflect criticism of Hamas.
 
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