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Frankfooter

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Hamas set them up.
They instigated the Israeli attack
They put them in harms way
They provided no protection
They hid among them, under them and behind them
They used them as human shields
They made sure that there was no way the Palis could survive as Israel was hunting down Hamas.

They are like a mob boss, who orders a hit. He's not the one who does the deed, but he's 100% responsible for making it happen.
The nazis blamed the Jews, Roma and LGBTQ as well.
What they would never do is say its wrong to kill children, which is exactly the same as you here.
You echo their every ideal.

 
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Hamas set them up.
They instigated the Israeli attack
They put them in harms way
They provided no protection
They hid among them, under them and behind them
They used them as human shields
They made sure that there was no way the Palis could survive as Israel was hunting down Hamas.

They are like a mob boss, who orders a hit. He's not the one who does the deed, but he's 100% responsible for making it happen.
Nothing In your list is Hamas killing Palestinians. They cannot be responsible for what they did not do.

Another entity, Israel, actually and verifiably killed them. Israel is responsible for what they do. No notion of responsibility nullifies the choices made by any entity of its own volition.

Unless you think that Israel is controlled by Hamas and they forced Israel to follow its orders. Is that what your mob analogy refers to? If it doesn’t, you should tell us what you mean with that analogy.
 
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BBC documentary reveals Hamas’s financial empire



A documentary has described the “vast amounts of money” kept outside Gaza that Hamas uses to fund its terror operations.

The BBC Panorama episode presented by journalist John Ware aired on Monday evening and detailed part of Hamas’s financial operation, which includes using funding from international aid agencies to pay for basic government costs so that other streams of income could be used to pay for its military.

While billions arrived from international aid agencies, the United Nations, and the European Union, to spend on humanitarian aid, Hamas could spend the money from other sources – such as taxes and Qatari and Iranian funding – on military operations.

BBC documentary reveals Hamas’s financial empire - The Jewish Chronicle (thejc.com)
 
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shack

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Still using the wife beater's justification?
Are you still calling for a ceasefire instead of a Hamas surrender? Your strategy has resulted in 10,000 unnecessary Palestinian deaths since the new year.
Gonna claim that Hamas is forcing Israel to destroy every school and university, shoot mothers and children and Hamas is forcing Israel to starve everyone to death?
Do you think Hamas is forcing this to happen?
Just keep repeating:
Oct.7, Oct.7.,Oct.7...
 

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Are you still calling for a ceasefire instead of a Hamas surrender? Your strategy has resulted in 10,000 unnecessary Palestinian deaths since the new year.

Just keep repeating:
Oct.7, Oct.7.,Oct.7...
You're still calling for the rape victim to stop resisting?

Israel would still starve Gaza to death even if Hamas surrendered.
 
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shack

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You're still calling for the rape victim to stop resisting?
You have used the exact words "I support a ceasefire" for months. 10,000 have died just this year while you utter those words.

Find the words where I say "the rape victim should stop resisting". You can't because I never said that. I've never said anything remotely similar to that. Further irrefutable truth that you routinely lie. You can't find those words of mine. Every time I claim you've lied, I back it up. And you have the gall to say that you're honest. "Prove it shack, prove it." I've done so dozens of times.

I've proven it right here and now. Let's prove it again, shall we?

frank, have you ever lied on TERB in posts discussing the middle east?
 

Frankfooter

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You have used the exact words "I support a ceasefire" for months. 10,000 have died just this year while you utter those words.

Find the words where I say "the rape victim should stop resisting". You can't because I never said that. I've never said anything remotely similar to that. Further irrefutable truth that you routinely lie. You can't find those words of mine. Every time I claim you've lied, I back it up. And you have the gall to say that you're honest. "Prove it shack, prove it." I've done so dozens of times.

I've proven it right here and now. Let's prove it again, shall we?

frank, have you ever lied on TERB in posts discussing the middle east?
Where did I ever say that you said 'the rape victim should stop resisting'?
That's just yet another lie from you.
Its so sad.

You are such a sad and angry old man.



 
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shack

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Where did I ever say that you said 'the rape victim should stop resisting'?
That's just yet another lie from you.
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Be careful what you ask for. You just got it. Hahahahahahaha.

post #14,883in this thread. It's on this very same page.
You're still calling for the rape victim to stop resisting
That was in response to this post of mine:

shack said:
Are you still calling for a ceasefire instead of a Hamas surrender? Your strategy has resulted in 10,000 unnecessary Palestinian deaths since the new year.

I just caught you red-handed in another lie. Everyone can see your post. It's word for word. You cannot deny it. Oh, I know. You can say that you were being sarcastic. LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

You owe me an apology.

You lie so much that you can't keep track of them.
 
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Frankfooter

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That's just yet another lie from you.

Be careful what you ask for. You just got it. Hahahahahahaha.

post #14,883in this thread. It's on this very same page.That was in response to this post of mine:

shack said:
Are you still calling for a ceasefire instead of a Hamas surrender? Your strategy has resulted in 10,000 unnecessary Palestinian deaths since the new year.

I just caught you red-handed in another lie. Everyone can see your post. It's word for word. You cannot deny it. Oh, I know. You can say that you were being sarcastic. LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

You owe me an apology.

You lie so much that you can't keep track of them.
Total fail, shack.
I didn't say you said those words, I said your actions are like the rapist calling for the rape victim to stop resisting.
Shack counter:
4 accusations of lying, 2 intentional misquote - 0 proof

You know who else used starvation as a weapon? Nazis.
Do you think Germans lied to themselves about what was going on, or do you think they were more like you and they cheered every bit of news about what the Nazis were doing in the camps?

Israel using famine as weapon of war: Palestinian minister
Riad Malki, the foreign affairs minister for the Palestinian Authority (PA), has said Israel has been using both famine and medicine as weapons of war.
In a statement at the 55th high-level session of the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva, Malki said: “While we are meeting now, 2.3 million Palestinians in Gaza are being subjected to massacre and deprivation, becoming victims of disease, pandemic, hunger and thirst.”
Calling for imposing political and economic sanctions on Israel, Malki said that Israel has been violating international law “with its aggression against our people in [the] Gaza Strip, its genocidal war, and its crimes against the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people”.
 

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I didn't say you said those words, I said your actions are like the rapist calling for the rape victim to stop resisting.
Clearly you did say those words in post #14,883. You just changed the wording for this post, which I bolded directly above. The wording is clearly different.

Post #14,883
You're still calling for the rape victim to stop resisting?
You don't even care anymore if your lies are exposed for all to see. Nobody believes anything you say anymore and you know it.

You need to apologize.
 

Frankfooter

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Clearly you did say those words in post #14,883. You just changed the wording for this post, which I bolded directly above. The wording is clearly different.



You don't even care anymore if your lies are exposed for all to see. Nobody believes anything you say anymore and you know it.

You need to apologize.
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4 accusations of lying, 5 intentional misquotes - 0 proof

Your posts continue to sound like a rapist telling the victim to stop resisting and you'll enjoy it more.
 

shack

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I provided a 100% accurate quote. A perfect counter.

Your problem is you have no counter. All you could do was pretend you said something else. In common parlance that is known as a lie and everyone can see it. That is enough satisfaction for me to derive for now. But I am eagerly awaiting your next one. What's the over/under on the timing? 5 minutes? (For the record, I'm want the under but unsurprisingly I can't find any takers. LOL)
 

Frankfooter

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I provided a 100% accurate quote. A perfect counter.

Your problem is you have no counter. All you could do was pretend you said something else. In common parlance that is known as a lie and everyone can see it. That is enough satisfaction for me to derive for now. But I am eagerly awaiting your next one. What's the over/under on the timing? 5 minutes? (For the record, I'm want the under but unsurprisingly I can't find any takers. LOL)
The quoted post didn't say what you claimed it said, shack.
shack counter:
5 accusations of lying, 5 intentional misquotes - 0 proof

Israel fails to take steps to comply with ICJ genocide ruling: Amnesty

One month after the ICJ ordered “immediate and effective measures” to protect Palestinians in the Gaza Strip from the risk of genocide by ensuring sufficient humanitarian aid and basic services, Israel has failed to take even the bare minimum steps to comply, Amnesty International says.
“Not only has Israel created one of the worst humanitarian crises in the world, but it is also displaying a callous indifference to the fate of Gaza’s population by creating conditions which the ICJ has said places them at imminent risk of genocide,” said Heba Morayef, Middle East and North Africa director at the human rights group.
“Time and time again, Israel has failed to take the bare minimum steps humanitarians have desperately pleaded for that are clearly within its power to alleviate the suffering of Palestinian civilians in Gaza,” she added.
 

shack

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The quoted post didn't say what you claimed it said, shack.
I quoted you and did not change a letter.

You on the other hand added words that you did not originally say.

My counter of your lies is useless. The numbers don't go high enough. But rest assured that Gretzky's scoring records will fall before records for telling falsehoods. And that's no lie.
 
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