Joe Biden ruled as too incompetent to face charges

Valcazar

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I agree. By any objective measure Biden has done a fantastic job of governing:
-he cured covid;
-he passed the infrastructure bill;
-he has brought unemployment to an all-time low;
-brought together the NATO allies;
-etc.

Unfortunately, though, I’m not sure that anyone can effectively govern a nation in which about 46% of the population embrace fascism. At this point, I’ll settle for the old guy who is clinging to what’s left of democracy.
OK, I think Biden's done a far better job than I expected and has been a surprisingly great President, but he did not "cure COVID" - that's just nuts.
 

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OK, I think Biden's done a far better job than I expected and has been a surprisingly great President, but he did not "cure COVID" - that's just nuts.
Was he in office when the covid pandemic ended?

If the pandemic had continued under his watch he would most certainly be blamed for it. If it ends on his watch he gets the credit. That’s just how it is…I don’t make the rules.
 
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K Douglas

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What bad stuff exactly are they doing, Kirk?
Not enforcing the border
Destroying the middle class with horrible economic policy
Funding a pointless war
Kowtowing to China
 

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Not enforcing the border
GOP/Trump just rejected border reform bill that gave the GOP literally everything they wanted. But Trump needs a border problem to run on…so spare me the pearl clutching over “border security” 😂

Destroying the middle class with horrible economic policy
Economy is better than it was under Trump. After curing covid, Biden brought economy to historically low unemployment. Stock market hitting record highs- check the facts!

Funding a pointless war
It’s only “pointless” for the Putin fanboys.


Kowtowing to China
US imports from China down 20% under Biden- largely replaced with imports from Mexico and Canada.
 

Valcazar

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That's an important and interesting question. Western societies seem to take longevity for granted. At age 81, Joe Biden's life expectancy is seven years. That obviously doesn't mean he is guaranteed to make it to age 88. If Biden is re-elected, there's about a 38% chance that Kamala Harris becomes the President of the United States in the next five years.

Thinking through it further, do you think octogenarians just quickly fall ill and pass away? More than likely an illness would strike that could be debilitating for many months perhaps even years. This could easily happen during a second Biden term.
One of the problems is that the 25th amendment is cumbersome and not very well thought out when it comes to the situation of a President who doesn't think they need to be replaced.
Biden appears to be in excellent heath, but as you say, the actuarial tables aren't in his favour and the risks don't increase linearly.

Of course, Trump has the same basic problems, being 77.
I strongly suspect 2028 is going to result in two candidates in their 50s coming out of the primaries.
 
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Valcazar

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At the very least, why keep Kamala Harris? Most Americans don't think she's qualified to be President. Every time they see signs of Biden's aging, they will be thinking of her stepping into the Presidency.

This is a good time to try to have a non-partisan (hopefully, cough) discussion. There's plenty of time to replace Kamala on the ticket. Do you think some Democratic voters would be upset that a minority woman is being replaced? The usual Democratic playbook would be to replace her with a woman preferably a minority. So perhaps it could be a wash from a demographic perspective.
Butler's point about "generic democrat" winning is misleading.
"Generic democrat" will always do better than "specific democrat" because it isn't a real person.
You can't use those numbers to make an argument like this.

To your actual point, other than FDR, has anyone ever switched VPs in between terms and been re-elected?
I don't think the backlash would just be "replace her with an identity pick or we get mad", it would be a whole brouhaha about how it shows weakness, disloyalty, there would be infighting and sniping about whoever took the position.
I can't see it going smooth. Biden could probably pull it off if he was vastly more popular and in a position where he could sell it as a power move, but I just don't think that's the situation.
 
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Valcazar

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Newsom, Whitmer, perhaps someone else.

Here's the problem. Biden has blocked any "new generation" Dems from getting national stage exposure. So the talent pool is not fully known.
Explain?
How has Biden "blocked" this?
 

Valcazar

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I really don't know what he should have given for a reason for not prosecuting, but his choice of words were poor.
You could read what he actually gave as his reasons for not prosecuting if you wanted, you know.
The report is public.

And at the end of it all, we know Biden had mishandled (and shared) classified documents and classified information as a Vice President and Senator. Those are facts.
Are they?
Did you read the report?
 
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Valcazar

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Do you think Biden is Cognatively sound enough to serve as POTUS for 5 more years?
Yes.
He's pretty clearly cognitively sound as evidenced by his performance and by numerous accounts and what can be seen in public.
Will he remain so for 5 years?
Impossible to say.
Especially at this age, once something goes wrong it can go very quickly.
 
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Valcazar

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Was he in office when the covid pandemic ended?

If the pandemic had continued under his watch he would most certainly be blamed for it. If it ends on his watch he gets the credit. That’s just how it is…I don’t make the rules.
The pandemic hasn't ended.
The emergency has.
It's still a pandemic.
 

Valcazar

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US imports from China down 20% under Biden- largely replaced with imports from Mexico and Canada.
Isn't Mexico now officially the place the US does the most imports from?
(It might not be true yet, but I thought I saw something about that. )
 
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So Biden is too incompetent to face charges, but he's apparently competent to run an entire country??

How does that work exactly??!! 😂
 

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Yes.
He's pretty clearly cognitively sound as evidenced by his performance and by numerous accounts and what can be seen in public.
Will he remain so for 5 years?
Impossible to say.
Especially at this age, once something goes wrong it can go very quickly.
We've had this discussion before. Most of us have experienced aging family members. It's actually quite amazing how at one moment they can seem very articulate and lucid then an hour later they can be completely lost in the conversation. Aging is not exactly linear and it's not even linear within the same day.

The real test will be how often Biden does personal appearances, speeches and takes questions. You might be aware how limited the press access to Biden has been. All this suggests Biden is being managed and safeguarded. Much of the press might be willfully cooperating with these efforts, but that seems to be weakening.
 
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So Biden is too incompetent to face charges, but he's apparently competent to run an entire country??

How does that work exactly??!! 😂
He has some really great people working for him.

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By not showcasing new talent. By not giving up-and-comers exposure.
Gavin Newsom must be the most visible under the radar candidate in the history of the Republic.
 
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