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silentkisser

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Hur was just telling the truth, and all the "wacky" lefties go crazy.....LMAO That Israel/Gaza excuse is total BS!! Biden has dementia, and the "lefties" should just admit it already!!

If Biden wasn't charged then Trump shouldn't have been charge in this classified documents fiasco. It shows what a two-tiered justice system the US, has right now!!
This is hilarious. Biden has dementia but Trump is a stable genius....If I rolled my eyes any harder, they may have popped out and gone back in time....As I said, there is a massive difference between how both men handled classified documents. Trump lied and tried to hold on to them, even going so far as to try and obstruct the investigation. Hell, he lied to his lawyers and the government and FORCED the FBI to raid his resort. That is why he is facing punishment. So, don't cry to hard, you have a Trump appointed judge who appears to be doing everything in her power to fuck the case up. And, she is obviously not an idiot, so everything she is doing is to help delay or sabotage the case in favour of Trump...There is your two-tiered justice system. And it should upset you...but we know it won't because you drank the kool aid...
 

silentkisser

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What about Jack Smith?? Jack Smith is a total democratic special counsel!!

Trump is coherent and energetic. Biden can barely string two sentences together. Biden is certainly not on the "ball"!!
Wrong again. Smith's a independent.... Which, I guess to your mindset means he must be a democrat in disguise...
 

Phil C. McNasty

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This is hilarious. Biden has dementia but Trump is a stable genius....If I rolled my eyes any harder, they may have popped out and gone back in time....As I said, there is a massive difference between how both men handled classified documents. Trump lied and tried to hold on to them, even going so far as to try and obstruct the investigation. Hell, he lied to his lawyers and the government and FORCED the FBI to raid his resort. That is why he is facing punishment
53% of Americans (and 29% of Demorats) disagree with you. They think Biden is getting special treatment

 
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Wrong again. Smith's a independent.... Which, I guess to your mindset means he must be a democrat in disguise...
I don't care much one way or another what party Smith is aligned with or not. However, an Independent could be simply be someone who doesn't declare his political preference.

In fact, polls show most independents generally and consistently favor one party while declaring they're independent. I doubt a government lawyer doesn't have a strong sense of his political preferences.
 

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DOW is down 500+ points today.
My whole portfolio has gone to shit.
Thanks Joe Biden.

And yes I know it eventually will recover, but this President has not been good for the stock market

So Joe is responsible this week because it's down but last few weeks when it was at an all time high, it's wasn't because of Joe??

Why do you so easily dismiss the idea that it is what she has said and done (or not done), and her support for the poor policies and decisions of her boss, that are the reasons so many see her as unfit to be President? Her poor performance as VP is well known. Why would you assume that disapproval of her must be based on race? Is it because race is how you make all of your own assessments?
I'm curious, what has she done as VP that constitutes a poor performance? Proof please not just your opinion.
 

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What do you mean did so poorly in 2020? She is the VP. I am also not talking about American's view on race and gender. I am referring to the Republican view on race and gender. I was saying that just like the Republicans wanted to secede in 2012 when Obama was elected to a 2nd term, they now want to talk trash about Kamala - not that they actually know anything about her actual qualifications or performance.
Please don't dig deeper and deeper trying to defend the case that Kamala Harris is not popular nationally because of race and gender. Kamala Harris performed poorly in 2020. She got crushed with Democrats. She didn't even make it to Iowa. The Republicans did not have anything to do with this. Those are just facts.

As far as being Vice President, everyone knows Vice Presidents are appointed to the ticket and ride on the coattails of the Presidential candidate. That's just the reality of how it works. I've already conceded there have been other poor choices for Vice Presidents. Dan Quayle immediately comes to mind. Quayle didn't help the ticket. Harris doesn't help the ticket.

So if you say a politically-weak multiracial woman should have every much the opportunity to be Vice President? Then we can agree.

You just have to accept that she is not popular with a vast majority of Americans. Generally, the VP on the ticket would not be as big a deal if it weren't for Biden's age. That's why Mike Pence was a more benign choice for VP.

 

WyattEarp

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I'm curious, what has she done as VP that constitutes a poor performance? Proof please not just your opinion.
You might refuse to accept that Kamala Harris is not popular with the American public. It is however almost public that the Biden team does not like working with her. Whether it's public or not, this is the public perception and that is what matters.

I would make the point popularity is a barometer of political performance. This is especially true for a Vice President who simply represents the Administration and doesn't make executive decisions. Kamala Harris' approval rating is lower than Joe Biden's who already has a very low approval rating. Per The Hill: Harris received a net negative rating of -17, which is the lowest net negative rating for a vice president in the history of the poll (NBC News). Again, this is just public information.
 
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squeezer

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You might refuse to accept that Kamala Harris is not popular with the American public. It is however almost public that the Biden team does not like working with her. Whether it's public or not, this is the public perception and that is what matters.

I would make the point popularity is a barometer of political performance. Kamala Harris' approval rating is lower than Joe Biden's who already has a very low approval rating. Again, this is just public information.
First I will say, I don't believe she can run and win an election but I said the same of Pence and other VPs. Now, show me proof of what she's done so badly. I see a VP who stands by her boss and if need be takes the helm. If you ask me who I'd like to see step in and run as Prez it would be Gavin. I also believe Trump is to old, has the start of dementia, and is just a chaotic POS and the US would be better served in Nov. having to vote for Gavin vs Haley.

 

squeezer

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You might refuse to accept that Kamala Harris is not popular with the American public. It is however almost public that the Biden team does not like working with her. Whether it's public or not, this is the public perception and that is what matters.

I would make the point popularity is a barometer of political performance. This is especially true for a Vice President who simply represents the Administration and doesn't make executive decisions. Kamala Harris' approval rating is lower than Joe Biden's who already has a very low approval rating. Per The Hill: Harris received a net negative rating of -17, which is the lowest net negative rating for a vice president in the history of the poll (NBC News). Again, this is just public information.
Wyatt, what do you think of Haley?? I would have preferred Christie or Haley to run. I don't agree with a lot of what they have to say but they are so much safer for the US than Trump.

 

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Wyatt, what do you think of Haley?? I would have preferred Christie or Haley to run. I don't agree with a lot of what they have to say but they are so much safer for the US than Trump.
I think Haley is a very solid candidate. She's been my first choice for some time. I would hesitate to suggest she do something different in the primaries. I had no issues with Christie.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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So Joe is responsible this week because it's down but last few weeks when it was at an all time high, it's wasn't because of Joe??
DOW is tanking because inflation isnt coming down. Thats on Biden
 

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Approval ratings are subject to personal biases, so I don't see her low approval ratings as helping your argument that they are low, because of poor performance and not because of rhetoric, racism or sexism. In fact, knowing how uninformed people are, rhetoric, racism and sexism perhaps has a bigger impact on approval ratings than anything else.
As I said above you can't ignore popularity and approval ratings. It is a key metric of performance for a politician.
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The fact that Kamala Harris' approval ratings have dropped steadily and significantly since 2021 suggests Independents and some Democrats have soured on her. Kamala Harris was a multiracial, woman in 2021 paired with an elderly President as well. Why would her race and gender become an issue now?

(Republicans don't like Joe Biden so thus they're not going to like Kamala Harris either race and gender aside. You're left with the Dems and Indys.)

By the way, Trump is 4 points above Kamala, and he is not even in power. Not sure how that is actually better.
It's Kamala Harris' almost 18% negative margin that's the bigger concern. You're not going to find any support for Kamala in the numbers.

So my question stands. Regardless of her approval ratings in what ways has her performance been poor, especially compared to Trump and Mike Pence earlier?
I think you're making an argument here that you favor and you perceive others favor Biden/Kamila's performance to Trump/Pence's performance. Even if this was true, it does not make a strong case for Kamila as much as it does for Biden. Interestingly, Pence was routinely more popular than Trump so one could easily make the argument that Pence did not hurt the ticket. Kamala has been less popular than Joe Biden.

In a typical year where Vice Presidential candidates are not critical in the election, Kamala is perfectly fine. Given Biden's advancing age, Biden's VP should be a stronger candidate.
 

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I think Haley is a very solid candidate. She's been my first choice for some time. I would hesitate to suggest she do something different in the primaries. I had no issues with Christie.
Then you're cheering for the Orange Blimp to get a jail sentence or a coronary??
 

Phil C. McNasty

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But inflation has come down up til now so you admit up until NOW Biden has been doing a fantastic job?
No, because he's had almost 4 years to bring inflation down to where it should be, and he has failed.

#Trump2024
 

squeezer

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No, because he's had almost 4 years to bring inflation down to where it should be, and he has failed.

#Trump2024
So if by March it's down and your stocks are up, will you give Biden the credit or are you just a past Trumper, a present Trumper and a future Trumper even if he grabs you by the pussy?
 

mandrill

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In what way?
What is he supposed to do to give these people "exposure"?
Invite them to DC. Include them in events. Make them part of PR opportunities.

Biden was not supposed to run for 2 terms. He was an emergency replacement for a weak set of aspirants for the 2020 nom. His job was to win the election, not fuck up for 4 years and groom and showcase the new generation of superstars.
 
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