Court has ruled Emergencies Act during Trucker convoy was unconstitutional

[Skoob]

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Ok. So put up, with credible sources, what exactly you think Ford should have done in Ottawa.
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tip: don't get sucked in...distracting away from Trudeau's incompetence and guilt is always his go-to tactic when his hero fails him.

 

[Skoob]

What was Trudeau found guilty of here?

Violating the Canadian Charter or Rights.

 

[Not getting younger]

When an elected government doesn't listen to it's population, make unpopular decisions, put livelihoods of thousands/millions in a compromised situation, then something radical must be done. Ie: truck convoy, farmer protests all over EU etc.

Why are we not discussing the reasons for people to protest? Does someone think that truck drivers had nothing better to do than drive for thousands of miles and take over the government???

Doesn't matter who abuses the power, right, left, center, blue, red. Whatever! Why are we excusing bad behavior??? Liberals did this, but oh Conservatives did that... 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Fuck em all if they don't serve their people. We, the people, should keep our government accountable for their actions!!!

well now we are getting philosophical and all that. Like fear and greed rule everyone to one degree or another. So does fear of change…

me, I’d much rather different governments every 4 years. Make them actually earn 2nd terms…The last 20 years ( about a generation) the abuses, scandals, waste, polarization, have grown worse. Was a time parties got punted for breaking campaign promises. Today they aren’t worth the paper they are printed on..Many are likely too young to remember those days. They got punted for 600k ( Mulroney) and 6 million ( Chrétien). Now people don’t even blink at those numbers….never mind worse.

Our laws are a reflection of societies morals. Many have lost them and or, are instead so deeply entrenched on either the R or L, they just don’t care…”better the devil you know”. That’s called enabling anywhere/anytime else.

 

[squeezer]

The police would have been correct to remove the Ottawa protesters too. That's not what's at issue here. The issue here is the government invoking an Act that grants them extraordinary powers, and they did so when there was no threat to national security, as is required by the Act. There's a reason this Act was called the Wartime Act prior to 1988.

My personal issue with what they did was that they were freezing the bank accounts of people supporting the protestors, and that they were labeling the protestors as terrorists. They may have been a nuisance and a disruption, but no where near rising to the level of terrorists. Same goes for the Palestinian protestors, by the way. Nuisance. Disruption. Not terrorists.

I do not support the Palestinian protestors but you cannot compare the two protests. One was an occupier of a city the other protests and goes home. It is a big difference. I expect the police to manage the protests during the day but in Ottawa and the bridge, it was a full-blown occupation that needed to be quelled and squashed quickly. I hold the Ottawa police as first to blame for allowing the convoys to get set up. I hold the Provincial government secondly to blame for not assisting Ottawa quickly before the Freedum twats became entrenched and I say great job Justin for kicking their foul asses out of Ottawa.

Toronto was masterful at keeping them at bay and away so a big pat on the back to John Tory!

 

[richaceg]

Of course the right wingers will still say police are correct to try to stop Palestinian protests.

Admit it, you'd throw a fit if JT started freezing bank accounts of Pro palestinian protest organizers...the point is Police could've had those trucks towed, ticket the drivers and charge them the cost of towing....freezing bank accounts are bullshit...you know it...just won't admit it.

 

[squeezer]

Admit it, you'd throw a fit if JT started freezing bank accounts of Pro palestinian protest organizers...the point is Police could've had those trucks towed, ticket the drivers and charge them the cost of towing....freezing bank accounts are bullshit...you know it...just won't admit it.

Ritchie, it wasn't as easy without the act as you think! These freedum twatbags were entrenched. At this point, Ottawa police were intimidated and needed the powers of the FEDS.

Ottawa police had tow trucks ready to remove semis: officer

Officer testifies police operation would have proceeded even if Emergencies Act not invoked

www.sookenewsmirror.com

Supt. Robert Bernier, who oversaw the Ottawa police command centre for a portion of the “Freedum TWAT Convoy” demonstrations in February, said he would have carried out a preplanned police operation even if the law had not been invoked.

He also said he didn’t need the federal government to compel truck drivers to remove vehicles that were entrenched in the downtown core, because police had already assembled 34 tow trucks with willing drivers.

But Bernier also told the commission during an interview that the emergency declaration may have convinced protesters to stay away from downtown Ottawa and be more compliant with police.

During the convoy Ottawa police said one of their limitations to bring the protests to an end was an unwillingness of tow truck drivers to help move hundreds of vehicles blocking the streets around Parliament Hill.

The Emergencies Act, which was invoked Feb. 14, granted temporary and extraordinary powers to police and governments to end the demonstrations. That included allowing police and city officials to commandeer tow trucks to move big rigs and other vehicles, if the towing operators still refused.

 

[Not getting younger]

My philosophy if you wish to call it that is very simple and is at the core of democracy. We elect our leader, but they MUST serve us, the people. If they do not, there must be accountability. Plain and simple. Doesn't matter who is in the driver's seat.

Perhaps EU protests make for a better example. Farmers can't sustain the Green agenda, higher energy prices, higher fuel prices and subsidies being taken away. They tried reasoning with their governments to no avail. If farmers go belly up, it means less food on the shelves, but it won't affect dumb politicians. It will affect ordinary citizens and that is why over 80% of Europeans population support these protests and inconveniences it causes because most understand what's at stake.

In Canada, however, we eat up all the nonsense and bullshit propaganda in MSM, and population is against such protests. Very sad actually.

yep it is sad.
re farmers/taxation. One of the reasons Rome fell. And as with let them eat cake, tea parties and more. History will repeat itself. Sucks when the peons outnumber you 8 to 2

 

[Frankfooter]

Admit it, you'd throw a fit if JT started freezing bank accounts of Pro palestinian protest organizers...the point is Police could've had those trucks towed, ticket the drivers and charge them the cost of towing....freezing bank accounts are bullshit...you know it...just won't admit it.

If it were foreigners funding those domestic protests I'd support freezing those bank accounts.
Doesn't matter if its convoy funders, Palestinian funders or Israeli groups, foreigners shouldn't be funding protests here.

 

[richaceg]

If it were foreigners funding those domestic protests I'd support freezing those bank accounts.
Doesn't matter if its convoy funders, Palestinian funders or Israeli groups, foreigners shouldn't be funding protests here.

Should the government freeze bank accounts of organizers exercising rallies? Like the protests in downtown now?

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Should the government freeze bank accounts of organizers exercising rallies? Like the protests in downtown now?

*cricket noise*

 

[Knuckle Ball]

If Doug Ford had managed the situation competently the Feds would never have needed to be involved.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

If Doug Ford had managed the situation competently the Feds would never have needed to be involved

It was Peter Sloly's jurisdiction. He's the one who initially mismanaged it.
And then Trudeau fucked up when he got involved and invoked the Emergencies Act

 

[roddermac]

Appeal will go nowhere.

Care to make a bet??

I'll bet you it will be another waste of tax payer money just like everything the Liberal have done under Trudeau and any other Liberal government in Onatrio

 

[roddermac]

This guy has no backbone. If Justin asked to sleep with his wife, he'd allow it.

His supporters are weaker and dumber than he is. I'm surprised he and his party still have a fan base. P.S. You're assuming Justin likes women.

 

[roddermac]

Should the government freeze bank accounts of organizers exercising rallies? Like the protests in downtown now?

Absolutely not because the protests downtown now are protesting another government far far away not our own. That's how we do things in this country. Fuck over our own people and let outsiders do whatever they want.

 

[johnyboy]

1,000% it was the right call invoking the emergency act. They allowed them f****** idiots to protest more than enough and when they were told to leave they started talking tough thinking oh wow we got control now and they got exactly what they deserved. I personally loved every minute of it watching them greasy lowlifes run for cover like rats!

 

[rhuarc29]

I do not support the Palestinian protestors but you cannot compare the two protests. One was an occupier of a city the other protests and goes home. It is a big difference.

Those Palestinian protests are almost daily and have been ongoing since October. The fact that they go home at the end of the day and come back the next day in a new location I don't find is a big difference. They're just spreading the frustration around.
As far as I'm concerned, if you're blocking a roadway and impeding traffic as your protest, you should be removed from said roadway. Whether you're there for 30 minutes, 3 hours or 3 weeks. But your removal should be done under regular authority.

I agree that the city and the province dropped the ball. But the federal government went nuclear with the Emergencies Act, which was a gross overreach.

 

[squeezer]

Those Palestinian protests are almost daily and have been ongoing since October. The fact that they go home at the end of the day and come back the next day in a new location I don't find is a big difference. They're just spreading the frustration around.
As far as I'm concerned, if you're blocking a roadway and impeding traffic as your protest, you should be removed from said roadway. Whether you're there for 30 minutes, 3 hours or 3 weeks. But your removal should be done under regular authority.

I agree that the city and the province dropped the ball. But the federal government went nuclear with the Emergencies Act, which was a gross overreach.

The Palestinians are being kept off bridges and the neighborhoods containing a big Jewish community. They were thrown out of the Eaton Center as they should be and are being somewhat controlled. They are not camping out, blowing horns, and having bouncy castles in the streets. It's completely different but I do agree, that the protests should not block roadways and interfere with folks just trying to get through the day. I don't care who the protesters are, if it is as the twats did in Ottawa and the Bridge, they deserve everything thrown at them and more, oh how I wish it was more.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

they deserve everything thrown at them and more, oh how I wish it was more

Actually, if the court's decision stands, I wish they had seized my bank accounts cause I'd be getting a multi-million dollar payday.
Latest estimate are in the range of $1-5 million per victim.
Trudeau seized 206 bank accounts, so do the math, it'll be between $200 million and $1.03 billion.

Nice going, TruDOPE

 

[Not getting younger]

Actually, if the court's decision stands, I wish they had seized my bank accounts cause I'd be getting a multi-million dollar payday.
Latest estimate are in the range of $1-5 million per victim.
Trudeau seized 206 bank accounts, so do the math, it'll be between $200 million and $1.03 billion.

Nice going, TruDOPE

There’s considerable grey there Phil. Per the article in Canadianlawyermag I posted.

Statute of limitations has run out.

At a guess, an appeal might come, once that’s figured out. Anything else.
/crickets
Why?

The crickets here and out there. You bet your ass they are busy measuring the winds and mining SM