Whose legal authority was Ford required obtain to step in and provide province wide resources to help clear out the invaders in downtown Ottawa?
He certainly didn't need municipal nor municipal police permission to just do his job.
Court has ruled Emergencies Act during Trucker convoy was unconstitutional
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He certainly didn't need municipal nor municipal police permission to just do his job.
As I read on this the OPP needs to be given permission. The only way to allow a take over would be to do what Mcguinty did during the G20 and vote through a special suspension of civil liberties.
And in fact it was the Ottawa Police Chief "who didn't do his job". Ford did at the border Bridge. And effectively.
Also Ottawa, because it's the Federal seat, with several Embassies is probably a special case, due to diplomatic reasons. It was in fact better the Feds did it.
I don't disagree with them having done it. The Fuck ups by Ottawa poluce left them no choice. And as I saud when I saw the fuel dumps I saw the public safety threat immediately and supported it.
My concern was always with the banking suspensions. I don't like the precedent that sets and neither should you. Do you want the Govt to be able to punish protesters by taking away their money?
Funny how people have forgotten McGuinty and Blair……..Nah, no parallels or connections to the G20
Either way, it’s comical reading this thread.
And what did Blair do when that colossal fuck up and abuse of civil rights blew up.
Threw his own under the bus, offered up a mid level scapegoat then slunk away and was rewarded a position in Federal politics. The left sure can pick them.
Either way, it’s comical reading this thread.
And what did Blair do when that colossal fuck up and abuse of civil rights blew up.
Threw his own under the bus, offered up a mid level scapegoat then slunk away and was rewarded a position in Federal politics. The left sure can pick them.
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You're just making shit up based upon what you imagine.
Ford could have done the same in Ottawa as he did at the border, but he was ski-dooing as his cottage and sticking his head in a snowbank when it came to Ottawa.
More of "just making shit up based upon what you imagine".
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Whose legal authority was Ford required obtain to step in and provide province wide resources to help clear out the invaders in downtown Ottawa?
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Ok. So put up, with credible sources, what exactly you think Ford should have done in Ottawa.
If I may because you sure like pulling shit out of your ass LOL
In it, Justice Paul Rouleau wrote: "I find the province of Ontario's reluctance to become fully engaged in such efforts directed at resolving the situation in Ottawa troubling," citing the province's refusal to take part in tripartite meetings with the federal government and city officials.
- Ford government slammed for 'troubling' inaction during convoy protest in Emergencies Act report
- Federal government met the threshold to invoke Emergencies Act: Rouleau
Doug Ford 'ghosted' people of Ottawa during Freedom Convoy, NDP alleges
Premier Doug Ford refused to answer questions in the legislature about a damning report outlining “Ontario’s absence” during the Freedom Convoy as the NDP accused him of “ghosting” the people of Ottawa.
toronto.ctvnews.ca
Had there been greater collaboration at the political level from the start, it could well have assisted in ironing out the communication, jurisdictional, and resourcing issues that plagued the early response to the protests,” Rouleau said in the report.(opens in a new tab)
“It could also have assisted in identifying authorities available to each level of government that might have been used to respond to the protests and coordinate direct engagement with protesters. It could also have provided the people of Ottawa with a clear message that they had not been abandoned by their provincial government during a time of crisis.”
Justice Paul Rouleau was a friend and supporter of Justin's dad...Gee I wonder if that affected his decision.If I may because you sure like pulling shit out of your ass LOL
In it, Justice Paul Rouleau wrote: "I find the province of Ontario's reluctance to become fully engaged in such efforts directed at resolving the situation in Ottawa troubling," citing the province's refusal to take part in tripartite meetings with the federal government and city officials.
Greater engagement by Ford and his government could have "provided the people of Ottawa with a clear message that they had not been abandoned by their provincial government during a time of crisis," Rouleau wrote.
- Ford government slammed for 'troubling' inaction during convoy protest in Emergencies Act report
- Federal government met the threshold to invoke Emergencies Act: Rouleau
Doug Ford 'ghosted' people of Ottawa during Freedom Convoy, NDP alleges
Premier Doug Ford refused to answer questions in the legislature about a damning report outlining “Ontario’s absence” during the Freedom Convoy as the NDP accused him of “ghosting” the people of Ottawa.
Had there been greater collaboration at the political level from the start, it could well have assisted in ironing out the communication, jurisdictional, and resourcing issues that plagued the early response to the protests,” Rouleau said in the report.(opens in a new tab)
“It could also have assisted in identifying authorities available to each level of government that might have been used to respond to the protests and coordinate direct engagement with protesters. It could also have provided the people of Ottawa with a clear message that they had not been abandoned by their provincial government during a time of crisis.”
You forgot the toilet paper.
So he is wrong in stating the provincial government failed in their support for Ottawa?
You don't like the British royals either, but there is actually a queen of Canada. Put her in charge and you might actually have be-headings
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The Canadian system makes it much easier to get rid of a prime minister than the US impeachment system.
If you want Trudeau gone, wishing for the US impeachment process is a terrible idea.
One of Mr. Trudeau's stormtroopers bragging here...
a federal judge found that invoking the act was done prematurely and did not meet the legal requirements to do so. He also found that some measures infringed on the charter.
He also said this
And a few other things
Invocation of Emergencies Act unreasonable, measures against Freedom Convoy unconstitutional: court
Federal Court found decision to declare emergency fell short of Emergencies Act requirements
www.canadianlawyermag.com
I’d say that’s a far cry better, far more substantial and far more serious than accusations. Would you agree?
whether you do or not, and given a lot here felt and feel it’s enough to bar Trump, would you also agree it’s hypocritical to not just be defending and deflecting but not to be calling for JTs resignation? At least pending an appeal.
Because isn’t that how the system, the aim and goals of constitutions, and rules are supposed to work? Is that not why we have them?
Fact of the matter is, in plain blunt English. if he doesn’t step down pending an appeal, why the fuck do we even have them.
What’s the fucking point?
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/puts on the popcorn waiting for everyone’s gymnastics
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Except the courts have ruled it didn't meet the threshold. And the NDP as official opposition is just playing politics. And the person doing the report is a Liberal hack seeking to deflect.If I may because you sure like pulling shit out of your ass LOL
In it, Justice Paul Rouleau wrote: "I find the province of Ontario's reluctance to become fully engaged in such efforts directed at resolving the situation in Ottawa troubling," citing the province's refusal to take part in tripartite meetings with the federal government and city officials.
Greater engagement by Ford and his government could have "provided the people of Ottawa with a clear message that they had not been abandoned by their provincial government during a time of crisis," Rouleau wrote.
- Ford government slammed for 'troubling' inaction during convoy protest in Emergencies Act report
- Federal government met the threshold to invoke Emergencies Act: Rouleau
Doug Ford 'ghosted' people of Ottawa during Freedom Convoy, NDP alleges
Premier Doug Ford refused to answer questions in the legislature about a damning report outlining “Ontario’s absence” during the Freedom Convoy as the NDP accused him of “ghosting” the people of Ottawa.
Had there been greater collaboration at the political level from the start, it could well have assisted in ironing out the communication, jurisdictional, and resourcing issues that plagued the early response to the protests,” Rouleau said in the report.(opens in a new tab)
“It could also have assisted in identifying authorities available to each level of government that might have been used to respond to the protests and coordinate direct engagement with protesters. It could also have provided the people of Ottawa with a clear message that they had not been abandoned by their provincial government during a time of crisis.”
The failure lies squarely with the Ottawa PD. The overreach with Trudeau. Please note who got fired, who just got slapped in court, and who is walking clean.
Popcorn going in, butt hurt balm going out. Whatever happened to "let the voters decide"?...a federal judge found that invoking the act was done prematurely and did not meet the legal requirements to do so. He also found that some measures infringed on the charter.
He also said this
And a few other things
Invocation of Emergencies Act unreasonable, measures against Freedom Convoy unconstitutional: court
Federal Court found decision to declare emergency fell short of Emergencies Act requirements
I’d say that’s a far cry better, far more substantial and far more serious than accusations. Would you agree?
whether you do or not, and given a lot here felt and feel it’s enough to bar Trump, would you also agree it’s hypocritical to not just be defending and deflecting but not to be calling for JTs resignation? At least pending an appeal.
Because isn’t that how the system, the aim and goals of constitutions, and rules are supposed to work? Is that not why we have them?
Fact of the matter is, in plain blunt English. if he doesn’t step down pending an appeal, why the fuck do we even have them.
What’s the fucking point?
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/puts on the popcorn waiting for everyone’s gymnastics
The police would have been correct to remove the Ottawa protesters too. That's not what's at issue here. The issue here is the government invoking an Act that grants them extraordinary powers, and they did so when there was no threat to national security, as is required by the Act. There's a reason this Act was called the Wartime Act prior to 1988.
My personal issue with what they did was that they were freezing the bank accounts of people supporting the protestors, and that they were labeling the protestors as terrorists. They may have been a nuisance and a disruption, but no where near rising to the level of terrorists. Same goes for the Palestinian protestors, by the way. Nuisance. Disruption. Not terrorists.
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Ok. So put up, with credible sources, what exactly you think Ford should have done in Ottawa.
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Tow trucks for starters, and a few water cannons. Special printing of ticket books. Nothing that radical or violent for starters, but Dofo was sitting on his hands and ghosting other agencies trying to cope. Kick the bum out for sure...
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Ok. So put up, with credible sources, what exactly you think Ford should have done in Ottawa.
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Tow trucks for starters, and a few water cannons. Special printing of ticket books. Nothing that radical or violent for starters, but Dofo was sitting on his hands and ghosting other agencies trying to cope. Kick the bum out for sure...
isn’t that one of the main themes in a democracy? Freedom of choice and all that? And is that not also why we have constitutions and charters of rights? To prevent government overreach?
so what the point if in them if “you” won’t stand by them.nor he by stepping down pending an appeal..
in exhibit one, an individual (a bit grey here on Jan 6th) bur he certainly didn’t use the power of the U.S. government ( no matter whether guilty or not) allegedly contravened the constitution and individuals decided he has…
.In exhibit two, a federal judge decided a government ( the Liberal party) did not follow the law and constitution and as well it infringed on the individual’s charter of rights. See the massive differences and massive hypocrisy?
So unless it’s yourself and others that are decidely left, and butt hurt. And btw the Liberalds didn’t lose, a judge has decided it’s far worse.
And does freedom not cut both ways? Meaning if Trump runs and wins. You are free to suck it up until the next election, or move. Just like anyone else, at anytime when they can’t stand their elected officials or what’s become of their country ( that the majority want a pos as POTUS)
At least in democratic soceities, however this is far different( worse)
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