Anti-Zionism Isn't The Same As Anti-semitism. Here's The History

basketcase

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Interesting that you listed colonists as #7, when it's by far the most relevant and important. You totally forgot using holocaust (and lately 10/7) remembrance as a kind of shield against any form of criticism as well...
Not the religious hatred and anti-immigrant hatred pushed by Arab leaders in their objection to legal Jewish immigration?
 
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Frankfooter

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It's not.

You are and have simply ben using israel as an excuse. You have repeatedly made it clear by hitting almost every point on Canada's definition of antisemitism.
Prove it.
I post about ending apartheid, the occupation and genocide.
That's about zionism, not the Jewish people.

You, on the other hand, keep trying to claim its antisemitic to oppose zionism.
 

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It's not.

You are and have simply ben using israel as an excuse. You have repeatedly made it clear by hitting almost every point on Canada's definition of antisemitism.
I've been wondering. frank has been banned several times in the past for what I would assume were hate speech related issues dealing with Jews and Judaism.

What could he have possibly said back then to get him banned, which was worse than his current rhetoric?
 

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Prove it.
I post about ending apartheid, the occupation and genocide.
That's about zionism, not the Jewish people.

You, on the other hand, keep trying to claim its antisemitic to oppose zionism.
All of your supposed causes are just a big sham. Just like your phony concern for Palestinians. You support Oct. 7, meaning you support the price that these Palestinians are paying, the death and destruction. You support Hamas to keep fighting even though, by your estimates 500,000 will die. You are cool with that. You don't give a damn about the Palestinians and you don't give a damn about all those other phony causes. You just care about spreading hate.

Anti-Zionism is a fabricated misnomer for anti-Semites to hide behind to shield their true motivation.

I pointed out a number of phony excuses through the centuries that people used to use to justify Jewish persecution. The new phony excuse of anti-Zionism is the same old song. Hate is hate is hate.
 

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I've been wondering. frank has been banned several times in the past for what I would assume were hate speech related issues dealing with Jews and Judaism.

What could he have possibly said back then to get him banned, which was worse than his current rhetoric?
Cool story, shack.

Meanwhile, here's another photo of the work you support. 12,000 dead children so far.
 

Frankfooter

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All of your supposed causes are just a big sham. Just like your phony concern for Palestinians. You support Oct. 7, meaning you support the price that these Palestinians are paying, the death and destruction. You support Hamas to keep fighting even though, by your estimates 500,000 will die. You are cool with that. You don't give a damn about the Palestinians and you don't give a damn about all those other phony causes. You just care about spreading hate.

Anti-Zionism is a fabricated misnomer for anti-Semites to hide behind to shield their true motivation.

I pointed out a number of phony excuses through the centuries that people used to use to justify Jewish persecution. The new phony excuse of anti-Zionism is the same old song. Hate is hate is hate.
I hear that when people intentionally lie and slander others on this board they can get banned.
You think the same would be true for those who defend apartheid and genocide?

I call for a ceasefire so that neither Jews or Palestinians will be killed.
But you call for more genocide.

Racists used to get banned here pretty quick.

 

shack

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That's about zionism, not the Jewish people.
So how much Zionism is there in Israel? What percent of the population do you feel are Zionists?

You make all of those big and bold proclamations and you paint yourself as a strong warrior for social justice, lecturing all of us on what should be done and how we should think.

But all of a sudden you become a shrinking violet, baby pussy when you are too afraid to answer such simple questions. As the saying goes, "When people show you who they are, believe them." You continually show us who you are.

How many Zionists, raw number or percent, do you believe there are in Israel?
 

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So how much Zionism is there in Israel? What percent of the population do you feel are Zionists?

You make all of those big and bold proclamations and you paint yourself as a strong warrior for social justice, lecturing all of us on what should be done and how we should think.

But all of a sudden you become a shrinking violet, baby pussy when you are too afraid to answer such simple questions. As the saying goes, "When people show you who they are, believe them." You continually show us who you are.

How many Zionists, raw number or percent, do you believe there are in Israel?
Its your question, you answer it.
You're supposed to be the expert.
 

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Cool story, shack.
No story. I asked a question. Was that a problem?

BTW, I wouldn't have picked it up but a lot of other members picked up on your previous personae and the bannings. Yet you still manage to make it back on.
 

shack

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Its your question, you answer it.
You're supposed to be the expert.
Thank you once again for showing us who you are and are not.

You are not:
You make all of those big and bold proclamations and you paint yourself as a strong warrior for social justice, lecturing all of us on what should be done and how we should think.

You are many other things, of which there is no need to repeat, but definitely not that.

BTW, how am I supposed to know how many Zionists you think there are in Israel? If you're going to duck a question, try to give a reason that actually makes sense. That was such a silly response.

But thanks for admitting that I am smarter than you. I'm the expert.
 

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Why does a religion get a homeland? Does Scientology get a homeland? Do worshippers of Satan get a homeland?

Before religion there was atheism, and even when religion existed atheism existed alongside it. I am an atheist, atheists have a history that predates Judaism in the land occupied by Israel, do I have any legitimate claim to that land?
 

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So how much Zionism is there in Israel? What percent of the population do you feel are Zionists?

You make all of those big and bold proclamations and you paint yourself as a strong warrior for social justice, lecturing all of us on what should be done and how we should think.
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And telling us what should be done with the Palestinians against their will.
 

basketcase

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Why does a religion get a homeland? Does Scientology get a homeland? Do worshippers of Satan get a homeland?

Before religion there was atheism, and even when religion existed atheism existed alongside it. I am an atheist, atheists have a history that predates Judaism in the land occupied by Israel, do I have any legitimate claim to that land?
If you want to argue the reasonableness of the Brits making promises to the Hashemites and Jews, we can but more significant is that there are 10 million Israelis 3.5 million Palestinians (as well as descendants of refugees) that currently live in the region who need to be involved in the decision making of what happens next. Obviously there are certain factions opposed to any compromise but that is where the international pressure should be exerted.
 
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