Israel at war

mandrill

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That would be a reasonable criticism if I was posting his views about Russia or Ukraine, but he's also been reporting on Israel/Lebanon/Palestine for over a decade and was doing that first. If he was posting bullshit, I'd call it. If you can prove what he posts on Israel/Palestine is factually incorrect I'll stop quoting him. And I won't quote him on Russia/Ukraine.

Same way I will back your attacks on trump but then attack you on your stance on Israel.
That's reasonable.

You, on the other hand have repeatedly posted IDF social media that has been proven to be staged or faked and have yet to apologize or retract those posts. So its very hypocritical to try to call me out for posting propaganda when you are directly posting propaganda yourself.
Frankie, Blumenthal notoriously lied about Syria to protect Putin's ally Assad.

He lies whenever he is paid to lie. A liar doesn't suddenly start telling the truth.
 

mandrill

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Its almost like they aren't fighting an army but just a bunch of refugees living in a concentration camp.
Frankie, it's a collection of cities amounting to 2M people. It's not a "concentration camp".

The "refugees" are gunmen with AK's who would happily be raping, torturing and kidnapping Israelis again, if they had the chance.
 

mandrill

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You think John Spencer is an expert on military law and human rights?
Yes, he's a military academic whose subject is urban warfare. So he's trained in military law.
70% of the victims are women and children, the highest civilian rate in 100 years.
10,00 dead children.
Relying on HAMAS's statistics.

I would be interested in the rate of civilian casualties in Mosul and whether it was higher.
 

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Frankie, no. The sea water will be contained in the tunnels. And the tunnels appear to be urban.
Indigenous Palestinians built some beautiful tunnels and barbarian Jews are trying to destroy them!
 
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mandrill

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Indigenous Palestinians built some beautiful tunnels and barbarian Jews are trying to destroy them!
It's just a shame that all those torn, bloody and broken Palestinian dead kids weren't allowed in those nice tunnels with Hamas. Then there's be no dead Palestinian kids.
 
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Civilian casualties are common in urban warfare. I don't think the IDF is out there hunting doctors.

And those protestors who were "kneecapped" were rushing the fence to get into Israel.
Woah, you just defended 'kneecapping' protesters? Every Friday for almost a year the IDF shot those unarmed protesters, mandrill.
And they already were inside Israel, remember, there is no country of Palestine.

You're back to this 'its just war' to defend shooting protesters and targeting civilians. Those are acts of terrorism, mandrill.
You are at the point where you defending acts of terrorism that are way worse than those of Hamas.

So there is now no moral difference between you and Hamas the only difference is race.
Can you articulate another difference?


 

mandrill

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See. All you have left. Go look at all three of their waffled testimony to Congress. And their complete failure. There are 3rd year law students who could have handled it better. The proof you seek is in the backlash and their complete humiliation. These are school presidents who just showed how incompetent their diversty hiring was. How they were completely unable to handle the situation when called upon to. This is their job description. To manage the image of the school, its policies, and any problems that occur.

And lets face it, you don't actually give a shit about them either. Its just another useful anti semitic argument to you.

Well another failed one anyway.
New Haven police investigate draping of a Palestinian flag over a menorah near Yale campus (msn.com)
 

mandrill

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Woah, you just defended 'kneecapping' protesters? Every Friday for almost a year the IDF shot those unarmed protesters, mandrill.
And they already were inside Israel, remember, there is no country of Palestine.
Yup. The same argument that Ashley Babbit was "murdered" because she was unarmed when she rushed a police line.

Maybe Ashley Babbit was a "genocide" as well?
And they already were inside Israel, remember, there is no country of Palestine.

You're back to this 'its just war' to defend shooting protesters and targeting civilians. Those are acts of terrorism, mandrill.
You are at the point where you defending acts of terrorism that are way worse than those of Hamas.
That's right, Frankie. The cops / army should never shoot anyone that rushes at them, regardless of the circumstances - because that's "terrorism".
 
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Frankfooter

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Yes, he's a military academic whose subject is urban warfare. So he's trained in military law.

Relying on HAMAS's statistics.

I would be interested in the rate of civilian casualties in Mosul and whether it was higher.
No, I'm not relying on Hamas' statistics, I'm relying on the numbers that are still coming through from the Hospitals in Gaza.
The same sources for numbers that the world has used in all 5 of the previous attacks on Gaza in the last decade or so.

The numbers are likely low, if anything, as around 7-10,000 people are still missing and buried in rubble.

Euro Med Monitor says its 24,000 killed.
The WHO says 90% of all Palestinians in Gaza are homeless now. 75% were refugees before this started and now their refugee camps and homes are destroyed.

The Lancet also says these numbers are accurate.


 

Klatuu

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See. All you have left. Go look at all three of their waffled testimony to Congress. And their complete failure. There are 3rd year law students who could have handled it better. The proof you seek is in the backlash and their complete humiliation. These are school presidents who just showed how incompetent their diversty hiring was. How they were completely unable to handle the situation when called upon to. This is their job description. To manage the image of the school, its policies, and any problems that occur.

And lets face it, you don't actually give a shit about them either. Its just another useful anti semitic argument to you.

Well another failed one anyway.
Still waiting for your direct quote. It doesn’t exist does it? If it had, you would have linked to it immediately. It wasn’t said.

A high school student could produce it in a few moments. If it existed. You couldn’t. Because it doesn’t You danced like a little girl.

But, I’ll give you another chance. Produce the direct quote. We are all watching.
 

Klatuu

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Frankie, it's a collection of cities amounting to 2M people. It's not a "concentration camp".

The "refugees" are gunmen with AK's who would happily be raping, torturing and kidnapping Israelis again, if they had the chance.
You mean act like Israelis do towards Palestinians?
 
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