Israel at war

shack

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Or you are saying Israelis are dumbasses who played right into Hamas' strategy. Which is it?
You mean the strategy of sacrificing the citizens of Gaza? The strategy of not giving a shit how many Gazan women and children die? The strategy of using them as human shields while they hide like rats in their sewers/tunnels? The strategy of stealing humanitarian aid meant for the people that you worry about because of them not getting food and water?

And you support these Hamas vermin who use such a strategy?
 

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Mandrill complains about the number of media posts about dead Palestinian children.
Well, there are 8,000 of them.
Considering these numbers are coming from Hamas reports which the UN accepts at face value, it's probably more like 800.
 

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You mean the strategy of sacrificing the citizens of Gaza? The strategy of not giving a shit how many Gazan women and children die? The strategy of using them as human shields while they hide like rats in their sewers/tunnels? The strategy of stealing humanitarian aid meant for the people that you worry about because of them not getting food and water?

And you support these Hamas vermin who use such a strategy?
Delusional
 

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And you have been told again and again, that you are wrong. You are not just objectively factually wrong, but your position is also morally bankrupt. According to International Law, turning off power, water and food is a war crime. If Hamas embeds itself within the civilian population, then yes, that is a war crime. But shooting those civilians to get to Hamas is ALSO a war crime. Hamas breaking International Law, does not absolve Israel from its own obligations. That is not my argument. That is international law. So you are wrong.

Israel by committing war crimes such as carpet bombing, attacking hospitals etc is breaking IHL per Article 51. Israel's use of collective punishment measures, such as movement restrictions, shelling of residential areas, mass arrests, and the destruction of public health infrastructure violates Articles 33 and 53 of the Fourth Geneva Convention.



Israel is not defending itself. Israeli self-defense ended on October 7. Self-defense is not done via invasions. That is argument Russia makes for invading Ukraine. It is nonsensical and idiotic.



Speculation. You do not know what Hamas intends.



Their stated reasons were the Al-Aqsa storming by Israelis. The 200+ settler attacks resulting in deaths in 2023 alone, which amounts to domestic terrorism. The unlawful detention of children and other Palestinians, (for which I gave you articles to read), without due process. The continuing occupation and oppression of the Palestinians. Now was the "raid" justified despite these reasons? No. It was terrorism. But, those were their stated reasons.



Because the majority of the population of Gaza are women and kids. Nearly 50% of the population of Gaza are kids. So the majority of the dead are women and kids.



EVEN if this position of yours was true, please explain, how it is justified for Israel to kill innocent civilians and kids and commit war crimes?

Either you are so morally bankrupt that you are arguing, "Oh they were asking for it". Which is the wife beater defence. Or you are saying Israelis are dumbasses who played right into Hamas' strategy. Which is it?
Again, you mention carpet bombing when you know full well it is NOT happening. Once one sees that nonsense, the rest of your post goes under "waste of time to read".
 

mandrill

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And you have been told again and again, that you are wrong. You are not just objectively factually wrong, but your position is also morally bankrupt. According to International Law, turning off power, water and food is a war crime. If Hamas embeds itself within the civilian population, then yes, that is a war crime. But shooting those civilians to get to Hamas is ALSO a war crime. Hamas breaking International Law, does not absolve Israel from its own obligations. That is not my argument. That is international law. So you are wrong.

Israel by committing war crimes such as carpet bombing, attacking hospitals etc is breaking IHL per Article 51. Israel's use of collective punishment measures, such as movement restrictions, shelling of residential areas, mass arrests, and the destruction of public health infrastructure violates Articles 33 and 53 of the Fourth Geneva Convention.
The actual experts are stating that Israel is not breaching international law. I realize that your buddies at the Socialist Collective Discussion Group for Anticolonialism and Trans Inclusionary Protest don't agree. But that's not my problem.

Israel is not defending itself. Israeli self-defense ended on October 7. Self-defense is not done via invasions. That is argument Russia makes for invading Ukraine. It is nonsensical and idiotic.
You're a silly man. A sniper is shooting at your kids from 100 metres across the Gaza border. To kill him, you have to go into Gaza and shoot him from the flank. So you invade Gaza. But it's still self defence.

I realize that your buddies at the Socialist Collective Discussion Group for Anticolonialism and Trans Inclusionary Protest don't agree. But that's not my problem.
Speculation. You do not know what Hamas intends.
They've made official statements that they intend to raid again.

Their stated reasons were the Al-Aqsa storming by Israelis. The 200+ settler attacks resulting in deaths in 2023 alone, which amounts to domestic terrorism. The unlawful detention of children and other Palestinians, (for which I gave you articles to read), without due process. The continuing occupation and oppression of the Palestinians. Now was the "raid" justified despite these reasons? No. It was terrorism. But, those were their stated reasons.
They've said they're going to raid again. "From the River to the See", the jihad continues.... Blablabla.

Because the majority of the population of Gaza are women and kids. Nearly 50% of the population of Gaza are kids. So the majority of the dead are women and kids.
EVEN if this position of yours was true, please explain, how it is justified for Israel to kill innocent civilians and kids and commit war crimes?

Either you are so morally bankrupt that you are arguing, "Oh they were asking for it". Which is the wife beater defence. Or you are saying Israelis are dumbasses who played right into Hamas' strategy. Which is it?
I've explained so many times. But you just give me the speech you learned about "anti colonial struggle and anti racism" - neither of which applies in Palestine.
 

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Again, you mention carpet bombing when you know full well it is NOT happening. Once one sees that nonsense, the rest of your post goes under "waste of time to read"
@Kautilya doesnt understand that you need B-52 bombers to do heavy carpet-bombing.
And Israel doesnt have any B-52's in their Air Force: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Air_Force

Kautilya is a light-weight debater who needs to do more research before spouting his nonsense

 
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You mean the strategy of sacrificing the citizens of Gaza? The strategy of not giving a shit how many Gazan women and children die? The strategy of using them as human shields while they hide like rats in their sewers/tunnels? The strategy of stealing humanitarian aid meant for the people that you worry about because of them not getting food and water?

And you support these Hamas vermin who use such a strategy?
Stop with the wife beater's defence.

Israel is the military occupying power, they have the nukes, tanks, missiles and drones and now 'bunker buster' bombs from Genocide Joe.
Israel is choosing genocide.
You are backing them.

You are supporting the most evil crime humans can do to other humans.

Genocide is now being debated in the MSM, including CBC.
Trudeau and Biden are now liable for aiding genocide.

 

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Sarandon isnt sorry about her anti-semitism, she's sorry she got dropped by her agency.
Lucky for her she doesnt have much of a career left to lose though

What are you complaining about? That ignorant twat voted for Trump back in 2016.
 
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Frankfooter

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Israel is carefully following the Geneva Convention by giving evacuation warnings for the parts of Gaza they're going to strike next.

Warning you are going to hit civilian targets doesn't make it not a war crime to hit civilian targets.
Israel also repeatedly kills Palestinians in the zones they declare safe.

These posts are designed for you to make Israel supporters feel better.
As a lawyer, you should know better.

You also copied and pasted a map with a plan for ethnic cleansing printed on it.
You posted a war crime as if it were totally fine.

Look at your map and look at the zone in the Sinai.
Israel's map includes a zone where they want to push the Palestinians of Gaza.




 
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