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Phil C. McNasty

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richaceg said:
For a 2 state solution to work....2 parties has to want it...Israel already proposed it multiple times and gets rejected...


In November 1947, the United Nations adopted the principle of the two-state solution. It voted for a plan to divide Palestine, which had been under British control for 25 years, into a Jewish state and an Arab state, with Jerusalem internationalized. The plan enjoyed the joint support of the United States and the Soviet Union, who, on this occasion, put aside their differences in these early days of the Cold War. It was approved by the Zionist leadership, for whom the allocation of 55% of Palestine to a Jewish state represented an unhoped-for victory, even though the Jewish population amounted to only a third of the total. It was rejected by the Arab side, which denounced the dispossession of the indigenous majority population in favor of recently settled Jewish immigrants, and was concerned about the fate of the large Arab minority that would continue to live in the future Jewish state
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Which is why I think in the end Israel said fuck it, you don't want to make peace, and you keep firing rockets at us, then we'll just take your land.

In a way you can't really blame them
 
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whynot888 said:
It's sickening how Hamas is converting children to child soldiers.
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Elon the antisemite, whose fortune came from apartheid, visited and claimed that every time you kill someone in Gaza you create more militants out of their children.

Do you agree with Elon?
 
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richaceg

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Kautilya said:
Because the author, "Breaking the Silence" is an Israeli NGO, established in 2004, by veterans of the IDF.

www.breakingthesilence.org.il

Breaking the Silence › The Organization

Breaking the Silence is an organization of veteran soldiers who have served in the Israeli military since the start of the Second Intifada and have taken it upon themselves to expose the public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Territories. We endeavor to stimulate public debate...
www.breakingthesilence.org.il www.breakingthesilence.org.il

They have testimonies as well on their website:

www.breakingthesilence.org.il

Breaking the Silence › Testimonies

Breaking the Silence is an organization of veteran soldiers who have served in the Israeli military since the start of the Second Intifada and have taken it upon themselves to expose the Israeli public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Territories. We endeavor to stimulate public...
www.breakingthesilence.org.il www.breakingthesilence.org.il
www.breakingthesilence.org.il

Breaking the Silence › Video Testimonies

Breaking the Silence is an organization of veteran soldiers who have served in the Israeli military since the start of the Second Intifada and have taken it upon themselves to expose the Israeli public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Territories. We endeavor to stimulate public...
www.breakingthesilence.org.il www.breakingthesilence.org.il
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If that's the case,
would you also find this guy credible?
 
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richaceg

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Kautilya said:
Yes, to the extent of what he says about the Hamas. But don't forget he is the Palestinian Uncle Tom who is bought and paid for by the Israelis. Like literally. He is a mouthpiece.

However, that is irrelevant because this is not about the Hamas. This is about what the IDF is doing to PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS, that Breaking The Silence is exposing.

Like I said before:

Palestinian lives > Israel's military objectives.
Palestinian lives > Hamas.
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and what makes you think the author of the book has verified IDF sources? Just because a book is published doesn't mean it's true...there's a big fully funded campaign to demonize Israel...you need to be very meticulous with all the information you come across...
 
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richaceg

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Kautilya said:
You are blabbering.

The book is published by Breaking The Silence and I linked their website as well. Breaking The Silence, IS a Non Governmental Organization of IDF Veterans. Not IDF sources. IDF Veterans, who have been there and done that.
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I'm blabbering because I question the validity? Looks like you latch on to anything anti-Israel and just take on everything as truth...I'm not anti palestinian, i'm not anti-israel...I'm anti-terrorism...that's all...
 
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Kautilya said:
You are blabbering because you question the validity of an already validated, Non Governmental Organization, in an attempt to argue, for the sake of arguing. There is no value in responding further to your posts.
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You can always question someone's validity...yeah, if you don't like that...you're free to walk away...
 
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