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Will Israelis or Palestinians Win the PR War?

Frankfooter

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So far, from the zionist side, only shack has stated they think ethnic cleansing is wrong but never called out the poster or post. Lemon stated they didn't think it could happen because of the number of Palestinians, even though history has shown otherwise, but stopped short there. Everyone else is silent. Can you post your criticism of their post? Must've missed it.
It's not even a question for most sane people but if you really need to hear it, Palestinians should not be ethnically cleansed and the only way forward is a negotiated peace that accepts the rights of everyone. I personally think that a Two State peace is more achievable but I don't get a vote.

There are plenty of calls for ethnic cleansing on the anti-Israel side though. Hamas is open with their desires to remove the Jewish presence, the PA considers Palestine to be the entire region, and much of the anti-Israel arguments are based on claims that Jews have no right to be there. I haven't seen anyone on the anti-Israel side say they think ethnic cleansing of Israel is wrong. Franky pretends every so often but then goes right back to claiming Jews are illegitimate.
 

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Good thing we believe in freedom of expression in Canada.
You have the freedom to use the N-word too. Doesn't mean it's not racist.

And pathetic that you're accusing people of promoting ethnic cleansing while defending a slogan that Hamas and many others use as a call for that very thing.
 

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You push hate speech against Palestinians here, basketcase.
You still trying to claim it is racist to criticize the Hamas leadership (while you pretend all of Israel are terrorists and believe Jews control western governments)?
 

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You still trying to claim it is racist to criticize the Hamas leadership (while you pretend all of Israel are terrorists and believe Jews control western governments)?
No, you and shack are racist because you refuse to say there are civilian Palestinians, so that you can justify killing children by calling them 'terrorists'.
That's racist and genocidal.

But then again, you probably agree with this senator who says its antisemitic to protest weapons manufactures.
 
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You have the freedom to use the N-word too. Doesn't mean it's not racist.

And pathetic that you're accusing people of promoting ethnic cleansing while defending a slogan that Hamas and many others use as a call for that very thing.
No, the n-word is considered hate speech in Canada. Don't believe me? Go to Yonge-Dundas Square and start yelling it at the top of your lungs. You'll get arrested, if the crowd doesn't get you first. And the charges won't be stayed, as was the case for the innocent protester in Calgary.

Calling for freedom and equal rights for Palestinians, not hate speech. Calling someone the n-word, hate speech. Glad I could clear that up for you.
 
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No, the n-word is considered hate speech in Canada. Don't believe me? Go to Yonge-Dundas Square and start yelling it at the top of your lungs. You'll get arrested, if the crowd doesn't get you first. And the charges won't be stayed, as was the case for the innocent protester in Calgary.

Calling for freedom and equal rights for Palestinians, not hate speech. Calling someone the n-word, hate speech. Glad I could clear that up for you.
Its time to start attacking the new Israeli McCarthyisms throughout North America, from universities to the arts.

The only word that should be labelled hate speech going forward is 'zionism'.
 
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Hundreds of German police raid properties of Hamas supporters in Berlin and across the country (msn.com)


BERLIN (AP) — Hundreds of police officers searched the properties of Hamas members and followers in Germany on Thursday morning following a formal ban on any activity by or in support of the militant group.

The German government implemented the ban on Nov. 2 and dissolved Samidoun, a group that was behind a celebration in Berlin of Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack on Israel.


Germany’s domestic intelligence service estimates that Hamas has around 450 members in the country. Their activities range from expressions of sympathy and propaganda activities to financing and fundraising activities to strengthen the organization abroad.

“We are continuing our consistent action against radical Islamists," German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser said. “By banning Hamas and Samidoun in Germany, we have sent a clear signal that we will not tolerate any glorification or support of Hamas' barbaric terror against Israel."

The raids, which mostly took place in Berlin, were meant to enforce the bans and to further investigate the groups, the German interior ministry said in a statement.

A total of 16 properties were searched by 500 police officers in Berlin and the states of Lower Saxony, North Rhine-Westphalia and Schleswig-Holstein.


In Berlin alone, more than 300 police officers carried out searches at 11 locations in order to seize evidence and assets. Seven searches were related to Hamas and four to Samidoun. The searches mainly took place at the homes of supporters and the premises of a Palestinian association, German news agency dpa reported.

Germany has been clamping down on groups supporting antisemitism in the wake of the latest Israel-Hamas war.

On Tuesday, police raided the homes of 17 people in the southern German state of Bavaria who were accused of spreading antisemitic hate speech and threats targeting Jews online. On Nov. 16, German police raided 54 locations across the country in an investigation of a Hamburg-based organization suspected of promoting the Iranian leadership’s ideology and possibly supporting activities of Hezbollah in Germany.

“We are keeping a close eye on the Islamist scene,” Faeser said. “Islamists and antisemites cannot and must not feel safe anywhere here.” She said the members and supporters of Hamas in Germany are also committed to influencing the political and social discourse in the country.


Hamas has vowed to annihilate Israel and has been responsible for many suicide bombings and other deadly attacks on civilians and Israeli soldiers. After the group's incursion into Israel in October, Israel vowed to wipe out Hamas.

The U.S. State Department designated Hamas a terrorist group in 1997. The European Union and other Western countries also consider it a terrorist organization.

Kirsten Grieshaber, The Associated Press
 
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