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The Oracle

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Looks like we’ve jumped from the frying pan into the fire. I thought Dubas was bad, but Treliving has managed to weaken a defence that was already one of the worst. Other than Gregor, none of his acquisitions have made any positive impact. It’s easy to dump on Reaves, but he’s not half as bad as Klingberg.
Treliving made a mess of Calgary did he not?
 
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As a Sens fan man that was good to watch!

But I have to admit I thought they were going to get their asses beat.

They had the better goaltending.......Reaves is -9. Wow.
 
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Time proves you right here.The Islanders have done better without Tavares. Way too much $$ stuck on him. Huge mistake.
Tavares has 432 goals at present.He's 33.

Question for the board. If he scores 500 is he a hall of famer?

Baring injury he's most likely going to get there.
 

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Tavares has 432 goals at present.He's 33.

Question for the board. If he scores 500 is he a hall of famer?

Baring injury he's most likely going to get there.
Marcel Dionne reached 500... never won anything. connor might be next in Edmonton...

Don't get me wrong Tavares is a great player yet its a team sport. For the money spent on him the Leafs could have had 2 or 3 good defensive player. They already had a prolific offence.

You absolutely need strong defensive players in team sports.
 

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Bring back Mike Nykoluk.

If they wanted to crush the spirit of a good young golatender, they did it last night. Don't kid yourself, the Loafs are just as bad as the Oilers. Four Loafs standing around discussing who makes the best cupcake while the Sens player gets a clear SOG and scores. It's not just Treliving, the Loafs defense has gotten worse every year since 2021. The Kings, who are building a balanced club, cake to Scotiabank Arena and opened a a great big can of whoop ass on the Loafs. The Canucks beat the Oilers on three occasions already.

 

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Bring back Mike Nykoluk.

If they wanted to crush the spirit of a good young golatender, they did it last night. Don't kid yourself, the Loafs are just as bad as the Oilers. Four Loafs standing around discussing who makes the best cupcake while the Sens player gets a clear SOG and scores. It's not just Treliving, the Loafs defense has gotten worse every year since 2021. The Kings, who are building a balanced club, cake to Scotiabank Arena and opened a a great big can of whoop ass on the Loafs. The Canucks beat the Oilers on three occasions already.

good goaltender are hard come by these days , 20 years ago Belfour and Curtis Joesph were the last best goaltenders they ever had.
Stupid leafs media alwayd bashing the goalies , How many goalies did the leafs let go in the past 10 years ? alot
Get rid of Tavers, it not a captain at all. Make Matthews or Nylander captian
The whole Mangerment and Keefe needs go too lol
 
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good goaltender are hard come by these days , 20 years ago Belfour and Curtis Joesph were the last best goaltenders they ever had.
Stupid leafs media alwayd bashing the goalies , How many goalies did the leafs let go in the past 10 years ? alot
Get rid of Tavers, it not a captain at all. Make Matthews or Nylander captian
The whole Mangerment and Keefe needs go too lol
Leafs goaltending isn't that bad. Although Woll has been better than Samsonov recently. Their D OTOH is terrible. Actually, worse than terrible.
 

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Tavares has 432 goals at present.He's 33.

Question for the board. If he scores 500 is he a hall of famer?

Baring injury he's most likely going to get there.
I suppose P. Turgeon would be a good comparable.
Turgeon had 515 career goals and just slightly above a point per game.
He's finally in apparently.
Tavares is just slightly below a point per game but he's been very consistent through his whole career.
His points per game rate is almost identical with NYI and Toronto.
Tavares looks to be a slightly less than Turgeon but very close.

Considering how consistent he's been his whole career and how he looks this year I say he gets to 500 goals.
That's 25 goals for the next 3 years. He has 5 goals this year in 13 games. 14 pts also so that is the pace he needs to maintain. He's also on the first PP unit.
 
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I suppose P. Turgeon would be a good comparable.
Turgeon had 515 career goals and just slightly above a point per game.
He's finally in apparently.
Tavares is just slightly below a point per game but he's been very consistent through his whole career.
His points per game rate is almost identical with NYI and Toronto.
Tavares looks to be a slightly less than Turgeon but very close.
Plus Tavares has had international success which counts.
 

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The Leafs will lose to the red-hot Canucks, that's a given, the Leafs have trouble against Demko. But if the Leafs lose to Calgary, something has to be done. I would send Klingberg to the AHL, FFS any Marlies defenceman can defend better than Klingberg.
 
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The Canucks bit the bullet, they had losing seasons now they have a complete team. What the Blackhawks did is even more impressive, they had the No. 1 pick, so they partnered him with Taylor Hall. Then they went out and picked up Seth Jones in a blockbuster trade. Meanwhile the Loafs were asleep at the wheel.
 

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Don't bring Klingberg to the Sweden trip. Vancouver will skate circles around him on Sat. Reaves if they don't send him to the Marlies, dress him but he only plays 4 mins, roll 11 forwards, and give Matthews, Marner, and Nylander extra ice time. Suddenly Justin Holl looks like a Norris candidate to Leaf fans.
 

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The Canucks bit the bullet, they had losing seasons now they have a complete team. What the Blackhawks did is even more impressive, they had the No. 1 pick, so they partnered him with Taylor Hall. Then they went out and picked up Seth Jones in a blockbuster trade. Meanwhile the Loafs were asleep at the wheel.
Part of the Canucks rejuvenation was a change of coaches that resulted in a major improvement. Do you thimk with the current Leafs line up a coaching change would result in the same type of improvement?
 

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Part of the Canucks rejuvenation was a change of coaches that resulted in a major improvement. Do you thimk with the current Leafs line up a coaching change would result in the same type of improvement?
The Canucks benefited from an old-school coach in Tochet, Tochet isn't afraid to bench any star player if he is playing shit, I think the Leafs can benefit from an old-school coach like Joel Quenneville but the NHL won't reinstate him yet.
 
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