Israel at war
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Stop with the gaslighting.
Its really disgusting and dishonest.
Both sides have targeted civilians, which you label as 'terrorism', with Israel having killed over 4,000 children.
You support that form of terrorism then say Hamas is bad because they committed way less terrorism.
Leaders from both should be investigated and charged by the ICC as war criminals.
You have offered no solutions, you can't define the borders of Israel, won't accept Palestinians are humans who deserve basic rights, won't even denounce killing babies. Instead you're here gaslighting to defend genocide.
You don’t have to but have for 300 pages. So either you don’t seem to understand war, or don’t understand nothing else has worked nor that people eminently more qualified have tried to think of things be they fences, sanctions, spec ops, intelligence, Mosad, treaties.
“what don’t you understand?”
They live in a concentration camp with one of the highest density areas on the planet.
Why did Hamas put so many Gazans directly in harm's way?
Good of you to call them out.
There is nowhere for them to go.
name a peace agreement they broke.
Anything else you name can be regurgitated tit for tat with random terrorist attacks.
Nonsense.
That is what he said.
You are a coward. You are afraid to voice your opinions on the streets of Toronto to Palestine protesters.
I've been arguing here for years that to end the cycle of violence you need to end the occupation and apartheid.
All of the violence is stupid and preventable.
Palestinians have the right to self defence against an illegal occupation, they are within their rights to attack Israel. That doesn't mean I support it, I support BDS instead. If you don't want them to attack end the stupid 75 year old occupation.
Ceasefire
End apartheid
End the occupation
Gaslighting.
So incredibly dishonest coming from someone who doesn't even have the humanity to say its wrong to kill babies.
Gaslighting, shack.
I said you're using an antisemitic trope by trying to argue that zionism represents the entire Jewish people.
Was Meir the first to use the wife beater's defence?
'they are forcing us to bomb babies'
Own it, Israel has chosen genocide.
Let’s see how well it will play with Dems if trump gets electedYup, 80% of dems support a ceasefire.
The longer this lasts the more they'll be pissed at Biden.
Now Herzog wants US Universities to stop protests for Palestine. A foreign government demanding that the US stop students from protesting against genocide. That should really play well with dems.
Herzog to US Uni. presidents: How can Hamas supporters have a place at your schools?
Israeli President writes open letter to heads of American universities and colleges on the outbreak of antisemitism on college campuses.www.israelnationalnews.com
Yes, that could be the price Biden pays for supporting genocide.
Gaslighting? You're the person calling everyone pro-genocide for calling out Hamas as terrorists, if they are not, then what are they?
No, the beginning of this topic was you saying Covert Ops doesn't operate in hostile territory.
So tell us: why isn't Covert Ops going to be effective in Gaza? Clearly you think you understand the topic better than we do so explain it to us.
I call people out for supporting genocide because Israel is targeting civilians, civilian infrastructure, destroying all water and food supplies and banning water, food and power to 2.3 million people, including 1.2 million children that have nothing to do with Hamas.
Its gaslighting to claim I said its for calling out Hamas.
A different and likely correct opinion on the War Crimes judgements flying about.
John Spencer - Modern War Institute
Maj. (ret) John W. Spencer is the Chair of Urban Warfare Studies at the Modern War Institute at West Point and Co-Director of MWI’s Urban Warfare Project.
mwi.westpoint.edu
Here is the author's bio for reference
So now hatred is a quantitative thing? Who is hated more is supposed to be relevant?
What an utterly rubbish comment.
You post that and hypocritically talk about Israeli racism against Palestinians? It's a smaller issue.
You're beginning to sound like frank by gaslighting. I never said that. You are implying that I said ALL people who are pro-Palestinian to be anti-Semitic. I said there has been anti-Semitism throughout history and there are still people who hate Jews for no other reason than they are Jewish. It would be very convenient for those people to pretend to be pro-Palestinian so that they can display their hate without having to show that they're just Jew haters at heart.
I've addressed those dozens of times.
So, as you say in this very post, discrimination against Palestinians is not the biggest issue. And if you want to talk about systemic racism against Palestinians, lets talk about the systemic racism against Jews in every muslim nation such that Jews were driven out of all of those countries. Where is you moral outrage there. And if it's systemic racism/apartheid why are there Arab/Palestinian members of the Israeli Knesset?
Hypocrisy when you never call out Klutz' and franks ultra extreme pro-Palestinian sources. BLATANT HYPOCRISY BY YOU.
Try saying that to frank every time he twists words, which is dozens of times a day.
I've inquired a couple of times what these covert ops would look like, how long would they take, how would they be successful in eradicating all of Hamas and their weapons/infrastructure which is their stated goal.
I'd like to have a better understanding. Can you please enlighten? It almost seems like this is intentional. It's sort of like you are just throwing out phrases without having any idea what you are talking about.
