Israel at war
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latest horrific video of Israeli handiwork attacking a convoy of refugees headed south. A move they demanded. *warning broken bodies of children* I have no words. ....
Still avoiding things. You have no solution in mind other than generic bleatings that have no substance. Unless you can show me leadership on both sides that can be trusted to make and keep a peace deal then my point stands.
Neither side wants peace, and will stay at each others throats. There won't be a two state solution, a one state solution, or even the present status quo. In the long run there will only be a winner.
So pick a side, whine about the unfairness of it all, or be indifferent. Honestly I just don't care. You are a nobody on poo er board thinking you somehow carry weight or can affect the outcome. You can't.
I understand the inevitable outcome of a religious war in the Holy Land.
The fact you think nuance of language is the most important point as opposed to the actual players events, history, shows how little you undsrstand.
I don't think it is the most important point.
I was pointing out you and he aren't actually making the same argument.
Just like "this person is dead, there is nothing we can do about it now" isn't the same argument as "That person deserved to die, and I'm really glad I killed him".
Yes.
You've made it very clear.
Unless someone has a peace deal on the table that you think will work, the only solution is war crimes, which you enthusiastically support.
That's very fucked up, which is my point.
Even many of the people here who are most stridently in favor of Israel's current actions aren't saying that "what is really needed are war crimes, because they don't count against Hamas or Gaza anyway, and also they are just the realistic best way to get what I want".
That you think pointing out I don't have a solution that magically fixes everything means I should just agree with you that war crimes are good is also not a great look on you.
So since for you this is all about how there can only be one winner, do you not even care which side wins?
You just want to encourage both sides to commit as many war crimes as possible to win so that things end more quickly?
Morality doesn't matter, just power, so you just want to see who has enough power to win and that's who you will support?
Cowards, they'll fight and kill children and civilians but scurry like rats when they have to fight soldiers. Ambulances are for wounded palestinian civilians not Islamic terrorists.
Hamas tried to send fighters to Egypt in ambulances for wounded Gazans — US official
Israeli officials say inspectors uncovered oxygen concentrators for tunnels used by Palestinian terror groups inside truck carrying aid to Strip
Hamas tried to sneak its fighters out of the Gaza Strip in ambulances that evacuated dozens of wounded Palestinians to Egypt earlier this week, a senior Biden administration official said Friday.
Hamas had compiled a list of the seriously wounded that it wanted to evacuate from Gaza for treatment in Egypt, along with thousands of foreign nationals looking to flee the enclave.
The list was then vetted by Egypt and the United States, which found that a third of the names on it were of Hamas fighters, the administration official said, adding that the list was rejected and none of the 76 wounded Palestinians who were ultimately evacuated in ambulances out of Gaza were members of the terror group.
Meanwhile, two senior Israeli officials told The Times of Israel that Israeli inspectors earlier this week uncovered, hidden in an aid truck, several oxygen concentrators meant to aerate the tunnels operated by terror organizations in Gaza.
“These weren’t for use in the hospitals, but below them. That’s why they were smuggled among boxes of cookies,” one of the senior Israeli officials said, adding that the entire truck in which the oxygen concentrators were found was barred from entering Gaza.
www.timesofisrael.com
Hamas tried to send fighters to Egypt in ambulances for wounded Gazans — US official
Israeli officials say inspectors uncovered oxygen concentrators for tunnels used by Palestinian terror groups inside truck carrying aid to Strip
Hamas tried to sneak its fighters out of the Gaza Strip in ambulances that evacuated dozens of wounded Palestinians to Egypt earlier this week, a senior Biden administration official said Friday.
Hamas had compiled a list of the seriously wounded that it wanted to evacuate from Gaza for treatment in Egypt, along with thousands of foreign nationals looking to flee the enclave.
The list was then vetted by Egypt and the United States, which found that a third of the names on it were of Hamas fighters, the administration official said, adding that the list was rejected and none of the 76 wounded Palestinians who were ultimately evacuated in ambulances out of Gaza were members of the terror group.
Meanwhile, two senior Israeli officials told The Times of Israel that Israeli inspectors earlier this week uncovered, hidden in an aid truck, several oxygen concentrators meant to aerate the tunnels operated by terror organizations in Gaza.
“These weren’t for use in the hospitals, but below them. That’s why they were smuggled among boxes of cookies,” one of the senior Israeli officials said, adding that the entire truck in which the oxygen concentrators were found was barred from entering Gaza.
Hamas tried to send fighters to Egypt in ambulances for wounded Gazans — US official
Israeli officials say inspectors uncovered oxygen concentrators for tunnels used by Palestinian terror groups inside truck carrying aid to Strip
www.timesofisrael.com
Its about religion, they hate the Jews. Land has nothing to do with it.
It is still part of the conversation and not to be ignored.
How many Hamas are there? How long would that take? Gazans don't want Israeli soldiers in there and Israel doesn't want them there either. It is best to get rid of as many Hamas as quickly as possible.
Could you please describe these covert operations? How would they work?
It's been tried over and over and never works. How can there be a diplomatic solution when one side denies the other's right to exist.
It's war. War is hell. There will be a time when. Israel can be judged. Right now it's a question of survival. Israel may have evidence/intelligence to justify what they are doing and why. Showing all their cards now may be jeopardizing what they are deriving from there intelligence. We don't know.
The vast majority of the blame lies with Hamas for triggering the attack that lead to Israel's expense and then using Gazans as shields for PR purposes, not allowing Gazans to leave the most dangerous areas. They forced Israel's hand into doing what they're doing. I'm not totally absolving Israel. I'm mostly blaming Hamas.
Sure Frank , you were rejoicing when they killed all those children and civilians.
There is no evidence that Hamas is using anyone as human shields.
None.
Only IDF claims, like this one where they tried to justify targeting an ambulance by saying it was Hamas without being able to name or identify who you thought it was. The IDF uses it to retroactively justify all destruction of civilian targets.
No.
I've been calling for BDS to end apartheid without violence in Israel for years.
Deaths on both sides are stupid and totally preventable.
I'm with the majority of Canadians who want a ceasefire.
Are you a member of the Jewish Taliban?Its about religion, they hate the Jews. Land has nothing to do with it.
You're still refusing to say that killing babies is bad.
You still refuse to say that killing Palestinian civilians is wrong.
That makes you someone who supports targeting civilians, which is the definition of terrorism.
Prove that is happening.
As an example, the IDF said they were targeting Hamas when they targeted ambulance.
The red cross says otherwise.
