Israel at war

DinkleMouse

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We celebrate a person, who throws themselves on the grenade, or dives into the water to save a life. The firefighter running into the burning building.

We don't celebrate suicide bombers, or mass shooters. The difference is clear. One runs in to save life, the other to take it.
Plenty of Victoria Cross and Metal of Honour winners got their decorations for killing people. Your claim that we don't celebrate people unless they save lives is incorrect.

Lt John R. Fox, US Army, got a Medal of Honour for calling artillery on himself when he was surrounded killing himself and 100 enemy. That's no different than a suicide bomb.
 
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shack

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I cannot help but think he is in it for his own personal benefits.
I cannot help but think that Hamas triggered this war for their own personal benefits. They sure as hell don't care about any benefit to the Gazans.

Hamas' leaders are all billionaires.

That guy is 100% bang on.
 

Leimonis

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They were operating out of an ambulance? Really? The IDF makes up ridiculous stories. 😂
you can't see hamas using ambulances as transportation? really? they can kill children and take hostages but they would not go as low as use ambulances, eh?
 

Leimonis

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It's a genocidal chant aimed at Israel/Jews.
+1, and it's ridiculous to think otherwise. A non-arab (let alone Jew) in a "free palestine" would be in more danger than a visitor in a zoo in which wild animals were let out of their cages
 
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shack

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The slaughter is Jews by Hitler was opposed by no one?
It started in places like the Warsaw ghetto, the yellow stars. This was before the gas chambers.

Even after the war the world didn't care. Look at the story of the ship The Exodus, where countries refused to allow the ship to dock and take in Jewish refugees.
 

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Deliberately targeting civilians even if enemy leaders are hiding behind them is also a war crime units proportional proportionality can be established.
There was no proportionality in WWII. Way more Japanese died than Americans. The same with Germany. Were the Americans charged with war crimes?

At the end of a war where there is a winner and loser there is always disproportionality. It is what it is.
 
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Leimonis

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It is surprising people have ZERO empathy for the Palestinian people. Even the children! Which is amazing to me.

It is clearly either driven by racism towards Muslims. Or driven by the fact that someone is Jewish so they are partisan and nationalistic (like toguy5252). Or driven by the fact that they have initially taken a position to support the bombing (as I will admit, I did), but are subsequently reluctant to go back and reassess. It is okay to change your minds! Which one is it? 🤷‍♂️
yeah I also wonder how come their brothers and sisters allover the middle east have zero empathy for them? aside from encouraging them to fight and die
 
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Leimonis

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They could, but highly unlikely that Israel had intel on that specific ambulance being used by Hamas guys. Its just a lie they push to justify something unconscionable. I mean even with the refugee camp attack - who knows if there was even a Hamas general? Just give some reason for attacking and killing people and everyone believes them because they do not want to consider the alternative that Israel is actually engaged in a racist campaign of collectively punishing the Palestinians.
now you are just making things up
 

Leimonis

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That is a racist and dehumanizing thing to say Leimonis. That is what the Nazis said about the Jews before killing 6 million of them. I haven't seen you make such comments in other threads, so why fall to this lowly position now? Take that back.
I haven't seen you to opine on what would happen if 2 mln radicalized gazans were let into israel unchecked. I believe hamas would rule the west bank in no time and it would be a massacre of jews. Would it not?
 
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Unfortunately, that is not the case. Israel is deliberately targeting Hamas. Hamas are the ones putting them in harms way deliberately and directly in front of the target.
Bullshit.

Israel hit 3 hospitals today.
There is no excuse for that.

Any challenges that this weren't civilian targets should be argued at the Hague.

 

Leimonis

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Bullshit.

Israel hit 3 hospitals today.
There is no excuse for that.

Any challenges that this weren't civilian targets should be argued at the Hague.

sourse: al jazeera
 
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