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Israel at war

Frankfooter

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If I'm not a citizen of Ontario, I don't get OHIP.
You admitted you know Israel is apartheid, shack, by your language.
Israel needs to give full citizenship and full human rights, including the vote, to all Palestinians living under their rule.
Including Gaza.

End apartheid
End the occupation

That's the only peaceful way forward left.
 

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PeteOsborne

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You are hitting rock bottom when you turn to MEMRI.
"The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) is a not for profit press monitoring and analysis organization with headquarters in Washington, DC. MEMRI publishes and distributes free English language translations of Arabic, Persian, Urdu, Pashto, and Turkish media reports. MEMRI states that its goal is to 'bridge the language gap between the Middle East and the West', through a translation service considered to have 'great value'. Critics charge that despite portraying itself as neutral, it aims to portray the Arab and Muslim world in a negative light through the production and dissemination of incomplete translations and by selectively translating views of extremists while deemphasizing or ignoring mainstream opinions."
https://www.loc.gov/item/lcwaN0011753/
So what resource would you recommend to honestly translate Arabic news to English witout portraying the Arab and Muslim world in a negative manner.
 

K Douglas

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I feel bad for Palestinians....they're being sacrificed by the very people they elected to take care of them....now Gaza is flattened courtesy of Hamas.
There hasn't been an election in Gaza or the West Bank in over 15 years. Their leaders don't represent them or their best interests.
 

K Douglas

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Man that could be a recipe for disaster if they aren't vetted properly.
They'll flock right to Mississauga which is fast becoming Little Palestine.
 
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DinkleMouse

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what about command and control in basement?
I've already answered this:


Obviously I haven't been clear. I'll try to do better.

Hague, Geneva, and Rome all say the same thing: "Thou shalt not attack a protected target such as a hospital unless it is being used for military purposes." That does not mean if it's being used for military purposes you can remove it from the map with no considerations of any sort. "Being used for military purposes" is the thing that allows you to apply the proportional proportionality analysis. If it isn't being used for a military purpose, you can't touch it for any reason at all. None, zip, zilch.

If a hospital is not being used for a military purpose but you can prove that blowing it up will somehow end the war tomorrow and save a billion lives, it's still a war crime to blow it up because you are prohibited from attacking it. You can't apply proportional proportionality because it is not being used for military purposes; it is strictly off-limits. Put a command and control facility in the basement though, and yes, now you can apply a proportional proportionality analysis to it and turn it into a crater because it's saving a billion lives.

Obviously every country on the planet would just blow it up if it was going to save a billion lives and no one would complain. But that's not the point; I'm using this invented, ridiculous example to explain what the law means and not to say I would object to saving a billion lives.

I hope that's clear: "military purposes" let's you apply proportional proportionality, it does not simply make a target fair game.
 
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Frankfooter

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"The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) is a not for profit press monitoring and analysis organization with headquarters in Washington, DC. MEMRI publishes and distributes free English language translations of Arabic, Persian, Urdu, Pashto, and Turkish media reports. MEMRI states that its goal is to 'bridge the language gap between the Middle East and the West', through a translation service considered to have 'great value'. Critics charge that despite portraying itself as neutral, it aims to portray the Arab and Muslim world in a negative light through the production and dissemination of incomplete translations and by selectively translating views of extremists while deemphasizing or ignoring mainstream opinions."
https://www.loc.gov/item/lcwaN0011753/
So what resource would you recommend to honestly translate Arabic news to English witout portraying the Arab and Muslim world in a negative manner.
Al Jazeera, Middle East Monitor and Middle East Eye are all trustworthy sources, though I'd expect some might think the last two 'biased' as they definitely report from Arab views. Which is also worth reading to understand, even if you don't agree with them.
 
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