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In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism

shack

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Oh, the wife beater's defence again.
No. I debunked that lame and fallacious analogy. Go back and read it.

It's called the fact and logic to prove reality defense.
 

shack

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Lol.
Completely ignores that the UN has said Israel has the right to exist. And ignores that it was the UN that divided the land.
frank is losing every debate that is coming from all sides. His hate and immorality is exposed for all to see.
 

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Franks hypocrisy is really starting to shine.
He loves the UN when the UN says Israel is committing crimes. But won’t accept the UNs resolution and land division. Calls it stupid.
No, old guy.
I think it was stupid but can accept that it was done and if Israel stayed within those borders there would be no war or occupation.
It can be stupid but still supported.
 

Frankfooter

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No. I debunked that lame and fallacious analogy. Go back and read it.

It's called the fact and logic to prove reality defense.
Sure and you also proved you love children and Palestinians too.

You know everyone blames Israel, not Hamas.
Everyone is protesting Israel.
Even 80% of Israeli Jews knew what Hamas was going to do, saw that Netanyahu only made the situation worse and even in Israel they protest Netanyahu.

So by your theory, everyone, including Netanyahu, knew what was coming so they are to blame for Hamas' attack, just as they will be to blame for the eventual end of apartheid.

Its a stupid, stupid, argument.
 

shack

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Sure and you also proved you love children and Palestinians too.
Thanks for recognizing that.

You know everyone blames Israel, not Hamas.
Wrong. Probably 95% of western society, citizens of 1st world democratic countries and non-muslims blame Hamas.

Everyone is protesting Israel.
People protesting in public for Israel would probably be met with violence.

So by your theory, everyone, including Netanyahu, knew what was coming so they are to blame for Hamas' attack, just as they will be to blame for the eventual end of apartheid.

Its a stupid, stupid, argument.
You're right. Your reply is extremely stupid because what you wrote is not at all what my theory is. I said nothing even similar to that.

I debunked your supposed and ridiculously fallacious "wife beater defense". I'm not going to go through it again just because it seems that it went totally over your head.
 

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Right, now Hamas are everywhere.
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You're nuts.

Hamas is in Gaza and the West Bank.
PIJ is in Gaza and the West Bank.
PFLP are active in the West Bank.
All three are active (along with Fatah militants) in the camps in Lebanon where there has been viscous fighting for months.
Hezbollah is active in Lebanon even though their being armed is a violation of UNSC motions (you keep claiming that you support the UN).
The IRGC Quds force is active in Lebanon and Syria.

All of them, are terror groups (no matter how much you support their actions).
 

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People protesting in public for Israel would probably be met with violence.
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If people were specifically protesting against Hamas, Franky and his ilk would claim that makes them racist (while they call for Jews to be removed from the region).
 

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If anti-Zionism is not antisemitism then why do the anti-zionists keep attacking synogogues, Jewish stores and Jews who have nothing to do with Israel or Zionism.
 

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If anti-Zionism is not antisemitism then why do the anti-zionists keep attacking synogogues, Jewish stores and Jews who have nothing to do with Israel or Zionism.
There were 300,000 anti zionists protesting in London the other day.
They didn't attack anything.

Its the white supremacists like Laura Loomer who you need to worry about.
 

Frankfooter

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You're nuts.

Hamas is in Gaza and the West Bank.
PIJ is in Gaza and the West Bank.
PFLP are active in the West Bank.
All three are active (along with Fatah militants) in the camps in Lebanon where there has been viscous fighting for months.
Hezbollah is active in Lebanon even though their being armed is a violation of UNSC motions (you keep claiming that you support the UN).
The IRGC Quds force is active in Lebanon and Syria.

All of them, are terror groups (no matter how much you support their actions).
Most of the terrorism is by settlers.

Israel soldiers and settlers, blindfold, beat, urinate, sexually assault Palestinian activists in West Bank

Israel distributes rifles to illegal settlers in West Bank

 

Frankfooter

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If people were specifically protesting against Hamas, Franky and his ilk would claim that makes them racist (while they call for Jews to be removed from the region).
Sure, Israel is attacking Hamas but killing 80% civilians.
They're just really bad shots.
 

shack

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No, old guy.
I think it was stupid but can accept that it was done and if Israel stayed within those borders there would be no war or occupation.
It can be stupid but still supported.
Frank, it’s a very rare day, you come out on top. That alone should tell you a lot..

If you want to stick to just the conflict between Israel and Arab states, you initially brought up Oslo, until close examination of that..the brought Hamas wanting 1967 borders. Somehow forgetting what happened in 1967 and why. And the consequences. You actually tend to live your life that way too. You seem to think there are no consequences in life. Be that as it. Your last fall back was 1949….Then there too,..

I wonder if you recall your exact words in the hours immediately following the hospital…Today, things look very different…

And today, with Israel showing gruesome videos to the world. Once again, you’ve backed the wrong pony. Are any of us surprised? I’m not, you don’t even know who hydro one is. Or that there are wind farms on farms…. That’s how “politically aware” you are.
 
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Frankfooter

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I never said anything close to that.
Yes you did.
People protesting in public for Israel would probably be met with violence.
You make a good argument.
Protesting for Israel is as popular as protesting for ISIS or Al Qaeda. Or as popular as protesting neo Nazis.

100,000 will protest to stop the genocide against Palestinians in London. 70,000 in Spain and 10,000 in Ottawa.
But who in their right fucking mind will march joyfully to celebrate and defend this shite?

 

Frankfooter

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Frank, it’s a very rare day, you come out on top. That alone should tell you a lot..

If you want to stick to just the conflict between Israel and Arab states, you initially brought up Oslo, until close examination of that..the brought Hamas wanting 1967 borders. Somehow forgetting what happened in 1967 and why. And the consequences. You actually tend to live your life that way too. You seem to think there are no consequences in life. Be that as it. Your last fall back was 1949….Then there too,..

I wonder if you recall your exact words in the hours immediately following the hospital…Today, things look very different…

And today, with Israel showing gruesome videos to the world. Once again, you’ve backed the wrong pony. Are any of us surprised? I’m not, you don’t even know who hydro one is. Or that there are wind farms on farms…. That’s how “politically aware” you are.
Gruesome videos? You think Israel can win that war too?

Israel has now killed 2420 children in Gaza, they killed 740 people yesterday. How many gruesome videos do you want to see?

They are bombing hospitals again, do you want more dead baby videos?
 

shack

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Yes you did.
"People protesting in public for Israel would probably be met with violence" is not " You just said you can't protest for Israel in public anymore".
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Protesting for Israel is as popular as protesting for ISIS or Al Qaeda. Or as popular as protesting neo Nazis.
It means that supporters of Israel are fearful that people who support Hamas will resort to violence, the same way Hamas resorts to violence. And you just try to justify the violence of Hamas protester the way you justify the Oct. 7 attack and in that way justify the death and suffering of Gazan civilians.
 
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