In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism

Frankfooter

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According to your definition Israel is committing terrorism and settlers are committing terrorism.
So specifically you need call out Israeli terrorism on Oct 8 on.

Start with cutting off food, water and power to 1.1 million children.
Some of whom will die tonight.

Denounce this terrorism.

Then you need to denounce Israeli war crimes like the occupation, blockade, apartheid and genocide.
Until you do, your attacks are based on race and not on the crimes.

Are you a partisan racist, or are you really concerned about terrorism?
If you're not partisan, you would be able to join me in calling for both sides to be investigated for all war crimes and terrorism.
 

shack

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According to your definition Israel is committing terrorism and settlers are committing terrorism.
So specifically you need call out Israeli terrorism on Oct 8 on.

Start with cutting off food, water and power to 1.1 million children.
Some of whom will die tonight.
All of which you endorse.
 

Frankfooter

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All of which you endorse.
No, shack.
I call for taking the leaders of Hamas and Israel to the Hague to be charged for all war crimes.

Are you still supporting starving 1 million children?
You still into bombing babies?
How about keeping water from pregnant women?

How many children have to die before you're satisfied that 'Hamas' is gone?

 
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basketcase

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Again, Israelis have been killing way more Palestinians in the West Bank, where there is no Hamas, than Israelis.
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Sorry but Hamas is in the West Bank. So is PIJ. They have been shooting at Jewish civilians on a regular basis for decades but your only complaint is that some of the PIJ guys get killed when Israel tries to arrest them.

The actual timneline:
PIJ and Lions Den shoot at Israeli civilians
Israel tries to arrest them
PIJ and Lions Den start gun battles to prevent the arrests
Israel shoots back at them and some PIJ/Lions Den fighters die.
You pretend those deaths are innocent civilians and use them to justify Hamas butchery.
 

Frankfooter

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Sorry but Hamas is in the West Bank. So is PIJ. They have been shooting at Jewish civilians on a regular basis for decades but your only complaint is that some of the PIJ guys get killed when Israel tries to arrest them.

The actual timneline:
PIJ and Lions Den shoot at Israeli civilians
Israel tries to arrest them
PIJ and Lions Den start gun battles to prevent the arrests
Israel shoots back at them and some PIJ/Lions Den fighters die.
You pretend those deaths are innocent civilians and use them to justify Hamas butchery.
Right, now Hamas are everywhere.
Syria, Lebanon, Egypt - where Israel just hit with a tank

You know, the world knows you mean 'Palestinians' when you say 'Hamas'.

Go ahead, point out where Hamas is in this photo.

 

shack

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I call for taking the leaders of Hamas and Israel to the Hague to be charged for all war crimes.
But you have never called for the attack of Oct.7 as being a terrorist attack.

You justify them, just like you are justifying Israel's retaliation.
 

Frankfooter

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But you have never called for the attack of Oct.7 as being a terrorist attack.

You justify them, just like you are justifying Israel's retaliation.
Israel is targeting and killing 70-80% civilians.
Did Hamas target and kill that high a ratio?

I still haven't seen the numbers to see if Hamas was largely targeting militants or civilians.
Clearly Israel is targeting civilians, though.

That's why I say take them both to the Hague and charge their leaders for all targeting of civilians.
A call you will never support, will you?

You say you're against terrorism but you're not, you are against Palestinians.

So far Israel has killed 1873 children.
None of which you've called out or expressed any remorse for.

 

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It’s called war Frank. Not sure why you have so much trouble grasping that. And it’s made worse because militant Palestinians, and militant Arabs are cowards and worse. They hide amongst civilians and use them as shields.

Then when some get killed, they stack their bodies, and take to SM, knowing people like you will sympathize and share tweets.

Don’t start wars. don’t break peace agreements. And as far as 1949 goes. Your vaunted UN who you cite so much.

A) explicitly say Israel has a right to exist. Not long ago, you argued they didn’t

B) Divided the land. Odd you omit/forget that, despite citing the UN sooooo much.

And from that day forward, literally the first day when terrorist killed a bunch of Israeli civilians on a bus. it’s been Arab States and lately Palestinians that won’t accept it, ( nor you )….. or peace.
 
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shack

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Israel is targeting and killing 70-80% civilians.
Did Hamas target and kill that high a ratio?
You and Hamas should have thought of that before launching the terrorist attack on Oct. 7.

Oh, wait. They did think of that before but went ahead anyway. That means that they, and you, don't care about the citizens of Gaza.
 

Frankfooter

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It’s called war Frank. Not sure why you have so much trouble grasping that. And it’s made worse because militant Palestinians, and militant Arabs are cowards and worse. They hide amongst civilians and use them as shields.

Then when some get killed, they stack their bodies, and take to SM, knowing people like you will sympathize and share tweets.

Don’t start wars. don’t break peace agreements. And as far as 1949 goes. Your vaunted UN who you cite so much.

A) explicitly say Israel has a right to exist. Not long ago, you argued they didn’t

B) Divided the land. Odd you omit/forget that, despite citing the UN sooooo much.

And from that day forward, literally the first day when terrorist killed a bunch of Israeli civilians on a bus. it’s been Arab States and lately Palestinians that won’t accept it, ( nor you )….. or peace.
Its not a war, its a 75 year, settler colonial occupation now ruled through apartheid and genocide.
Palestine was wiped off the map years ago, those are all residents of Israel now.

a) no state has a 'right to exist' that's just a bullshit tagline that Palestinians even accepted and it didn't change anything. Where is the right for Palestine to exist? Why are you so racist with states?

b) Divide? Created a concentration camp, bantustans and now a death camp. Enjoy your death camp, 1863 children killed so far.

Gaza is 50% children, children you are teaching to be the next, more violent Hamas.
So smart.

 

Frankfooter

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You and Hamas should have thought of that before launching the terrorist attack on Oct. 7.

Oh, wait. They did think of that before but went ahead anyway. That means that they, and you, don't care about the citizens of Gaza.
Oh, the wife beater's defence again.

Like, Israel should have thought that if they started up a concentration camp, deprived 2.2 million people of all freedoms and rights, they might rebel against their apartheid overlords. So Israel should have thought about that before and settled for peace decades ago instead. They didn't, so they knew this was coming, as did everyone, that means the Israeli government doesn't care about the Israeli people or the Israeli state, they turned it apartheid. We all know what happens to apartheid states.

Congrats on killing so many kids. Only about a million more to go.


 

Frankfooter

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Lol.
Completely ignores that the UN has said Israel has the right to exist. And ignores that it was the UN that divided the land.
The UN didn't say 'right to exist', it 'recommended' the creation of a state that gave most of the land to a minority demographic. It was a stupid plan that has lead to 75 years of strife.

Are you going to kill 1 million children to make Jewish supremacists feel 'safe'?

When does it stop?

 

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Franks hypocrisy is really starting to shine.
He loves the UN when the UN says Israel is committing crimes. But won’t accept the UNs resolution and land division. Calls it stupid.
 

Frankfooter

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Franks hypocrisy is really starting to shine.
He loves the UN when the UN says Israel is committing crimes. But won’t accept the UNs resolution and land division. Calls it stupid.
No, old guy.
I think it was stupid but can accept that it was done and if Israel stayed within those borders there would be no war or occupation.
It can be stupid but still supported.
 

Frankfooter

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No. I debunked that lame and fallacious analogy. Go back and read it.

It's called the fact and logic to prove reality defense.
Sure and you also proved you love children and Palestinians too.

You know everyone blames Israel, not Hamas.
Everyone is protesting Israel.
Even 80% of Israeli Jews knew what Hamas was going to do, saw that Netanyahu only made the situation worse and even in Israel they protest Netanyahu.

So by your theory, everyone, including Netanyahu, knew what was coming so they are to blame for Hamas' attack, just as they will be to blame for the eventual end of apartheid.

Its a stupid, stupid, argument.
 

shack

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Sure and you also proved you love children and Palestinians too.
Thanks for recognizing that.

You know everyone blames Israel, not Hamas.
Wrong. Probably 95% of western society, citizens of 1st world democratic countries and non-muslims blame Hamas.

Everyone is protesting Israel.
People protesting in public for Israel would probably be met with violence.

So by your theory, everyone, including Netanyahu, knew what was coming so they are to blame for Hamas' attack, just as they will be to blame for the eventual end of apartheid.

Its a stupid, stupid, argument.
You're right. Your reply is extremely stupid because what you wrote is not at all what my theory is. I said nothing even similar to that.

I debunked your supposed and ridiculously fallacious "wife beater defense". I'm not going to go through it again just because it seems that it went totally over your head.
 

basketcase

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Right, now Hamas are everywhere.
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You're nuts.

Hamas is in Gaza and the West Bank.
PIJ is in Gaza and the West Bank.
PFLP are active in the West Bank.
All three are active (along with Fatah militants) in the camps in Lebanon where there has been viscous fighting for months.
Hezbollah is active in Lebanon even though their being armed is a violation of UNSC motions (you keep claiming that you support the UN).
The IRGC Quds force is active in Lebanon and Syria.

All of them, are terror groups (no matter how much you support their actions).
 
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