Israel at war

Skoob

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I'm not taking sides...but can peace ever be achieved if someone is laying claim to land that was taken by conquest?
Globally, throughout history, wars have redrawn the borders everywhere. Should we as humans just accept that if another tribe has conquered us that we accept that?

If not, then there will be perpetual conflict as one side tries to reclaim what was theirs.

I'm not saying that I condone war...I'm asking a question.
 

Skoob

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I know the limits of my own hypocrisy and even though she's a leftist in a useless party, I believe that she should be voted out in the next election if people have a problem with what she did regardless what public opinion may be right now.
Unless of course they were proven to have broken the law.
 

Dutch Oven

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My thinking is undisciplined?
Yes.

Everyone in Gaza except for the ones who joined Hamas, is innocent.
Ludicrous.

If you were in that situation, would you try to save your children or would you be trying to reach out to the Israelis to point out where a Hamas guy you know is holed up?
If anyone is in that situation, the only way they can ensure the safety of their children is to evacuate. However, the only way to minimize the damage of this war, and to ensure it doesn't happen again in the future, is to assist the Israelis in surgically rooting out Hamas forces and infrastructure. If I was being held hostage in my home (as you suggest is the case for Gazans under Hamas rule) I wouldn't hesitate to help the police identify and remove the hostage takers.

Again, you are justifying collective punishment of Gazans. That is a war crime.
As I said, your thinking is undisciplined.
 

Darts

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If you’re referring to me. It’s because you can’t read English, nor grasp context and comprehension. In your rush to project and label people as racist.

Watch the video, especially the intentional slaughter of babies. What else would you call it but. Sick, Barbaric, animalistic..
His and another poster's two favourite words are racist and racism.
 

richaceg

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I'm not taking sides...but can peace ever be achieved if someone is laying claim to land that was taken by conquest?
Globally, throughout history, wars have redrawn the borders everywhere. Should we as humans just accept that if another tribe has conquered us that we accept that?

If not, then there will be perpetual conflict as one side tries to reclaim what was theirs.

I'm not saying that I condone war...I'm asking a question.
The palestinian - Israeli conflict is kind of unique as both Jews and Arabs have been there for thousands of years....If you base it on the religion stand point...the early versions of Q'uran doesn't recognize Jerusalem at all...in the later versions, they recognize Al Aqsa as where mohammad ascended....that was the religious conflict.... on the land itself...I would blame the British and their conquest for superiority....they promised both sides...promise they can't fulfill...But vowing to cleanse the world of your neighbors can only end in 2 things...you get decimated or you succeed....
 
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Dutch Oven

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I agree with militarily dismantling Hamas. But you did not answer the points I raised regarding assigning blame to ALL adult Palestinians in Gaza. What makes you think there is an organized police force in Gaza doing anything to maintain order and that they somehow act independently without being threatened by a terrorist group that has claimed leadership? How would you as an individual act against such a terrorist group without your family being put in danger?

As I said, your comment lacks intellectual rigor that does not consider ground realities. So educate yourself instead of advocating for racism and collective punishment, which is a war crime.
You are so scrambled up. You can't tell the difference between an analogy and a description of fact. You overstate your points, and refuse to narrow them when it's pointed out to you that you are arguing against straw men of your own design. You're mostly on the right side of this issue, but you're not a good spokesperson because you are so confused.
 

shack

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And your favourite quality is being racist. Along with your inability to look people in the eye and turtling in every conversation when challenged. Check shack's signature.
But darts says that you are not qualified to judge him. BTW, many others have made the same allegation.

Question: How many ways can the quote in my sig line be interpreted? He claims that I falsely accuse him of racist comments and ask him for some interpretation that I am missing, but each time he hides in his shell.
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Anbarandy

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You are so scrambled up. You can't tell the difference between an analogy and a description of fact. You overstate your points, and refuse to narrow them when it's pointed out to you that you are arguing against straw men of your own design. You're mostly on the right side of this issue, but you're not a good spokesperson because you are so confused.
He's confused.

He's got his confused face set to "ON"

He is the "Frankfooter of Modi" and the "Kautilya of Hamas" all pretzeled into one.

See how difficult it is for him to achieve a state of depretzelization.

It'd be so heart rendering if it wasn't all so comical.
 

Dutch Oven

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So the translation of that is, that you do not have a response, because you know you are wrong, but you won't acknowledge it?
No, here's a proper translation. You are like a broken old vacuum cleaner with wires severed and tangled haphazardly, as well as broken and missing parts. I am a like a vacuum repair man who looks at the mess and says, responsibly, I can't justify the time and cost it would take to fix this mess, and I'm not sure it would work all that well if I fixed it, nor am I sure that it won't be right back here on my repair bench in a week, malfunctioning and damaged all over again!
 
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Dutch Oven

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It really is heart warming to watch the "uber perpetually outraged and armed with a thesaurus/dictionary liberal" of TERB, and the "uber right winger of TERB" catch each other's eye. Perhaps they should get a room and save us the cringe. 😂
Hey, that's my pal Anabarandy you're talking about there! There's much more than a thesaurus to that man. He's the most stylish poster here on TERB!
 

Dutch Oven

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But you are not looking at a vacuum cleaner and only think that you do. Therein lies your problem. 😂
Well, I'll concede a couple of things: 1) I've met more intelligent vacuum cleaners, so maybe it is a case of mistaken identity, and 2) it is hard, given the state of disarray, to discern whether you are vacuum cleaner, but whatever you are, the state of your disrepair is undeniable.
 

Dutch Oven

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So based on your number 2 - you actually didn't know whether it was a vacuum cleaner, but still assumed and claimed that it is. Given you cannot even identify vacuum cleaners, the logical conclusion is that - a) Your point #1 is false, because you don't even know what a vacuum cleaner is or how it looks like. b) It follows from that, that you are not a vacuum cleaner repair man in the first place!
That post is like a log file you generate when a computer is malfunctioning. Unfortunately, it seems to indicate an irreparable hardware failure!
 

Phil C. McNasty

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CNN's Jake Tapper just confirmed live on air they have seen video evidence of Israeli children being murdered, and babies burned alive by Hamas. For obvious reasons they won't air this on cable TV
 

Not getting younger

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CNN's Jake Tapper just confirmed live on air they have seen video evidence of Israeli children being murdered, and babies burned alive by Hamas. For obvious reasons they won't air this on cable TV
Maybe this will help some to see and understand some differences. As sick as it and they ( actual terrorist) are. Israel and the IDF doesn’t wear body cams for propaganda or home movies to enjoy at a later date.
 

Darts

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You are so scrambled up. You can't tell the difference between an analogy and a description of fact. You overstate your points, and refuse to narrow them when it's pointed out to you that you are arguing against straw men of your own design. You're mostly on the right side of this issue, but you're not a good spokesperson because you are so confused.
He's confused.

He's got his confused face set to "ON"

He is the "Frankfooter of Modi" and the "Kautilya of Hamas" all pretzeled into one.

See how difficult it is for him to achieve a state of depretzelization.

It'd be so heart rendering if it wasn't all so comical.
Another poster actually used him as a reference. Isn't that hilarious? The two of them make a great comedy team. They are a distraction from what is a serious subject.
 

Not getting younger

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Further evidence of Israel’s overrated military

Klatu, do us all a favor and crawl back under whatever rock in the sand you crawled out of. How you can stomach your friends killing and burning babies…and recording it so they can jack off to it at home later.

Maybe you should pat them on the back for guaranteeing any civilized society now being ok with wiping them off the face of the planet and collateral damage being more acceptable
 
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Klatuu

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Klatu, do us all a favor and crawl back under whatever rock in the sand you crawled out of. How you can stomach your friends killing and burning babies…and recording it so they can jack off to it at home later.

Maybe you should pat them on the back for guaranteeing any civilized society now being ok with wiping them off the face of the planet and collateral damage being more acceptable
The numbers confirm that the Israeli military is much more prolific at slaughtering, burning and dismembering children. And they have for a long long time.

The numbers don’t lie. You do, but they don’t.
 
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