Israel at war
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I see you were not able to define the line. Very funny. Please show me when I said a Pali provocation was not a terrorist attack. IMHO dividing the two is a joke. Somehow people like you excuse collective punishment which is clearly illegal, is Okee dokee. Well, Hamas is applying collective punishment/terrorism/revenge, whatever you wanna call it.
A Saint ! Hamas throwing grenades at kids, real heros.
Netta Epstein, 21, threw himself onto a grenade to save his girlfriend who was later rescued
A 21-year-old Israeli-Canadian was killed during the Oct. 7 attacks by Hamas terrorists when he jumped on a live hand grenade to save the life of his girlfriend.
Global Affairs Canada confirmed the death of Netta Epstein on Sunday, bringing to five the number of Canadians known to have been killed in the attacks. Officials say three other Canadians who were in Israel when the attacks happened last Saturday are still missing.
News of Epstein’s death was reported shortly after the attack by TC Jewfolk, a Minneapolis-St. Paul-based Jewish online media hub, which identified him as a former camper and counsellor in training at Herzl, a local Jewish summer camp.
Ayelet Shachar-Epstein, Netta’s mother, said her son was killed saving his girlfriend, Irene Shavit, when a grenade was thrown into the safe room at their apartment in the Kfar Aza kibbutz where they were taking refuge. He threw himself onto the grenade in order to save Irene, who was later rescued.
“He was a beautiful child with wide brown eyes and long curly hair,” Ayelet said. “He turned into a beautiful man with a huge heart; caring and giving to all his surroundings. He volunteered for a year with kids with special needs from broken homes. He would read to them and play soccer with them. They all loved him so much.”
nationalpost.com
Netta Epstein, 21, threw himself onto a grenade to save his girlfriend who was later rescued
A 21-year-old Israeli-Canadian was killed during the Oct. 7 attacks by Hamas terrorists when he jumped on a live hand grenade to save the life of his girlfriend.
Global Affairs Canada confirmed the death of Netta Epstein on Sunday, bringing to five the number of Canadians known to have been killed in the attacks. Officials say three other Canadians who were in Israel when the attacks happened last Saturday are still missing.
News of Epstein’s death was reported shortly after the attack by TC Jewfolk, a Minneapolis-St. Paul-based Jewish online media hub, which identified him as a former camper and counsellor in training at Herzl, a local Jewish summer camp.
Ayelet Shachar-Epstein, Netta’s mother, said her son was killed saving his girlfriend, Irene Shavit, when a grenade was thrown into the safe room at their apartment in the Kfar Aza kibbutz where they were taking refuge. He threw himself onto the grenade in order to save Irene, who was later rescued.
“He was a beautiful child with wide brown eyes and long curly hair,” Ayelet said. “He turned into a beautiful man with a huge heart; caring and giving to all his surroundings. He volunteered for a year with kids with special needs from broken homes. He would read to them and play soccer with them. They all loved him so much.”
Canadian killed in Israel-Hamas war died trying to protect his girlfriend
Netta Epstein, 21, is the fifth Canadian killed in the Israel-Hamas war.
nationalpost.com
I think that was started by ISIS. But rumor that Arafat use to bang his body guard and he played the tiger and the guy a sheep. They say Arafat died of aids, not before leaving a billion dollars to his wife.
But Hamas killed one of their commanders accused of gay sex. Mahmoud Ishtiwi
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Frank say Israel is committing terrorist attacks, when he clearly doesn’t understand what a terrorist is. Maybe he will find the back bone for his conviction to answer 1 simple question.
Can Frank name a single, just one. Occasion when terrorist have warned civilians to leave the area before attacking?
Just one.
‘Squad’ member slammed for pushing misinformation: Instinct was to ‘try to blame the Israelis’
‘Squad’ member Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., drew criticism for retweeting a photo of dead children with the caption "CHILD GENOCIDE IN PALESTINE."
Except she retweeted a photo of dead children in Syria, not Gaza
‘Squad’ member Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., drew criticism for retweeting a photo of dead children with the caption "CHILD GENOCIDE IN PALESTINE."
The photo showed seven dead children wrapped in white and claimed they were part of the "614 Palestinian children murdered by the Israeli [IDF] forces."
A community note from X, formerly known as Twitter, stated that the picture was from a 2013 sarin gas attack in Ghouta, Syria, and not from the Israel-Hamas war.
www.foxnews.com
‘Squad’ member Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., drew criticism for retweeting a photo of dead children with the caption "CHILD GENOCIDE IN PALESTINE."
Except she retweeted a photo of dead children in Syria, not Gaza
‘Squad’ member Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., drew criticism for retweeting a photo of dead children with the caption "CHILD GENOCIDE IN PALESTINE."
The photo showed seven dead children wrapped in white and claimed they were part of the "614 Palestinian children murdered by the Israeli [IDF] forces."
A community note from X, formerly known as Twitter, stated that the picture was from a 2013 sarin gas attack in Ghouta, Syria, and not from the Israel-Hamas war.
‘Squad’ member slammed for pushing misinformation: Instinct was to ‘try to blame the Israelis’
'The Big Weekend Show' co-hosts react to 'Squad' member Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., pushing misinformation on social media about the Israel-Hamas war.
www.foxnews.com
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BREAKING: Israeli Security Source Confirms IAF Massacred Civilians in Refugee Convoy Despite Army Denials, 70 Dead – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
Exposing secrets of the Israeli national security state
www.richardsilverstein.com
You are so ill informed and no idea how to confirm information or verify sources.
They've been stealing from the Palestinians for years., all the money that countries (like Qatar) sent to support the citizens was used by Hamas to buy weapons and cement used to build tunnels.
That is a complete cop out. Fact is, YOU CAN'T. Which means there is no line and your whole premise is BULLSHIT.
Hamas has its human hostagesIsrael has blocked all food, water and power to the prison of Gaza, where 75% are refugees and 80% suffer from poverty and lack of food.
Without water they will all die.
A Textbook Case of Genocide
Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?
A Textbook Case of Genocide
Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?jewishcurrents.org
Israel has its food, water, and power hostages.
Israel has said it will release those hostages and give them back to Gaza, upon release of all human hostages held by Hamas.
Hamas on the trade offer: crickets....
Or being a toady for the IDF. You certainly burnished your bona fides with that howler.
Watch out
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Hezbollah destroys Israeli surveillance cameras along the Lebanese border as tension soars
Lebanon’s militant Hezbollah group said Monday it has started destroying surveillance cameras on several Israeli army posts along the border as tension rose following the Israel-Hamas war that began Oct.7.
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From Reuters news service today:
Biden says Hamas must be eliminated, US officials warn war could escalate
Story by By Nandita Bose and Katharine Jackson •2h
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -U.S. President Joe Biden said on Sunday he believes the Hamas militant group must be eliminated but there should be a path to a Palestinian state, after top U.S. officials warned the war between Israel and Hamas could escalate.
Biden did not think American troops would be necessary on the ground as Israel has one of the "finest fighting forces," even as American warships headed to the area amid growing clashes on Israel's northern border with Lebanon.
Israel unleashed a ferocious bombing campaign over Gaza in retaliation for unprecedented attacks by Hamas eight days ago that killed some 1,300 Israelis, mostly civilians.
When asked if he believes Hamas must be eliminated entirely, Biden said "Yes, I do. But there needs to be a Palestinian authority. There needs to be a path to a Palestinian state," he said during a CBS 60 Minutes interview broadcast on Sunday.
The U.S. President warned it would be a mistake for Israel to occupy Gaza but that "taking out" Hezbollah and Hamas was a "a necessary requirement." He said "It would be a mistake to ... for Israel to occupy ... Gaza again."
Israel captured and occupied the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem in the 1967 Middle East war. It withdrew its settlers and troops from Gaza in 2005, before Hamas' takeover of the Strip in 2007.
The conflict has sent tensions soaring.
"There is a risk of an escalation of this conflict, the opening of a second front in the north and, of course, Iran's involvement," White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan told CBS earlier in the day.
Gaza authorities say more than 2,670 people have been killed there, a quarter of them children. Casualties are expected to rise as Israel prepares for a ground assault on the tiny, densely populated enclave that could start within days.
U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced deployment of a second aircraft carrier group late on Saturday, calling it a sign of "our resolve to deter any state or non-state actor seeking to escalate this war."
The aircraft carrier the Dwight Eisenhower will join a small fleet including the massive Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier in the eastern Mediterranean.
"Iran is the elephant in the room," a U.S. official briefed on the situation said about the increasing military presence. "The carriers are accompanied by warships and attack planes. Every effort is being made to stop this from becoming a regional conflict."
Biden said his message to Iran is to not escalate the conflict.
Iran Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian warned on Sunday his country could act, telling al Jazeera that it had conveyed a message to Israeli officials that "if they do not cease their atrocities in Gaza, Iran cannot simply remain an observer." "If the scope of the war expands, significant damages will also be inflicted upon America," he warned.
Biden told CBS the threat of terrorism in the U.S. has increased due to growing unrest in the Middle East. He said, however, the U.S. can take care of wars in Israel and Ukraine and still maintain its "international defense."
Violence on Israel's northern border is already escalating. Lebanon's Iran-backed Hezbollah fighters launched attacks on Israeli army posts and a northern border village on Sunday; Israel retaliated with strikes in Lebanon.
The U.S. is urging Israel to hold off on its ground offensive to allow humanitarian efforts for Gaza's residents trapped in the area, several U.S. officials said.
Sullivan discussed a new weapons package for Israel and Ukraine that would be "significantly higher" than the previously reported $2 billion. He told CBS that Biden planned to have intensive talks on the package this week with the U.S. Congress, which has been hobbled by Republicans' struggles to pick a new speaker of the House of Representatives.
Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer, speaking in Tel Aviv on Sunday, said the U.S. Senate could move first to approve more funding for Israel. "We're not waiting for the House (of Representatives)," he said.
Republican Senator Lindsey Graham said on Sunday he is traveling to the region with other senators in coming days to push continued negotiations between Saudi Arabia and Israel.
Graham said he intended to introduce a bill that would "allow military action by the United States in conjunction with Israel to knock Iran out of the oil business" if Iran attacks Israel.
U.S. government officials also said they are mobilizing to help alleviate the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, anticipating a brutal ground offensive.
Israeli officials have made clear it will not be an easy or swift campaign. It faces the challenge that scores of hostages seized by Hamas on Oct. 7 could now be held in a warren of underground tunnels, which its soldiers must clear to destroy Hamas.
Biden, in a message posted on X, formerly Twitter, said: "We must not lose sight of the fact that the overwhelming majority of Palestinians had nothing to do with Hamas' appalling attacks, and are suffering as a result of them."
The U.S. has appointed former ambassador to Turkey David Satterfield as a special envoy for Middle East humanitarian issues. His focus would be to "promote the safety of civilians," the State Department said.
"We're pushing Israel to delay any action on the ground," said one U.S. official briefed on the situation. Asked directly if the U.S. was pushing Israel to delay its ground war for civilians, Sullivan told NBC "we are not interfering in their military planning or trying to give them instructions..."
However, he added, the U.S. is telling Israel any actions should follow the law of war, and that "civilians should have a real opportunity to get to safety."
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on Sunday that the Egyptian-controlled border crossing into Gaza would reopen and the U.S. was working with Egypt, Israel and the United Nations to get assistance through it.
Hundreds of tonnes of aid from several countries have been held up in Egypt's Sinai peninsula for days pending a deal for its safe delivery to Gaza and the evacuation of some foreign passport holders through the Rafah crossing.
Sullivan told NBC, "so far, we have not been able to get American citizens through the border crossing and I'm not aware of anyone else being able to get out at this time."
He added that he wanted to make sure the civilian population that remained in Gaza had access to food, water and safe shelter, and in an interview with CNN said Israeli officials had recently "turned the water pipe back on in southern Gaza."
Republican Senator Lindsey Graham told Reuters that the Israel assault on Gaza would be bloody.
"I expect urban warfare on steroids," he said. "There will be cries from the international community for Israel to stand down, but I think it's imperative that we give Israel the time and space to destroy Hamas."
(Reporting by Nandita Bose, Katharine Jackson, Christopher Bing, and Steve Holland in Washington; Writing by Raphael Satter; Editing by Heather Timmons, Bill Berkrot and Sandra Maler)
Biden says Hamas must be eliminated, US officials warn war could escalate
Story by By Nandita Bose and Katharine Jackson •2h
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -U.S. President Joe Biden said on Sunday he believes the Hamas militant group must be eliminated but there should be a path to a Palestinian state, after top U.S. officials warned the war between Israel and Hamas could escalate.
Biden did not think American troops would be necessary on the ground as Israel has one of the "finest fighting forces," even as American warships headed to the area amid growing clashes on Israel's northern border with Lebanon.
Israel unleashed a ferocious bombing campaign over Gaza in retaliation for unprecedented attacks by Hamas eight days ago that killed some 1,300 Israelis, mostly civilians.
When asked if he believes Hamas must be eliminated entirely, Biden said "Yes, I do. But there needs to be a Palestinian authority. There needs to be a path to a Palestinian state," he said during a CBS 60 Minutes interview broadcast on Sunday.
The U.S. President warned it would be a mistake for Israel to occupy Gaza but that "taking out" Hezbollah and Hamas was a "a necessary requirement." He said "It would be a mistake to ... for Israel to occupy ... Gaza again."
Israel captured and occupied the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem in the 1967 Middle East war. It withdrew its settlers and troops from Gaza in 2005, before Hamas' takeover of the Strip in 2007.
The conflict has sent tensions soaring.
"There is a risk of an escalation of this conflict, the opening of a second front in the north and, of course, Iran's involvement," White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan told CBS earlier in the day.
Gaza authorities say more than 2,670 people have been killed there, a quarter of them children. Casualties are expected to rise as Israel prepares for a ground assault on the tiny, densely populated enclave that could start within days.
U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced deployment of a second aircraft carrier group late on Saturday, calling it a sign of "our resolve to deter any state or non-state actor seeking to escalate this war."
The aircraft carrier the Dwight Eisenhower will join a small fleet including the massive Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier in the eastern Mediterranean.
"Iran is the elephant in the room," a U.S. official briefed on the situation said about the increasing military presence. "The carriers are accompanied by warships and attack planes. Every effort is being made to stop this from becoming a regional conflict."
Biden said his message to Iran is to not escalate the conflict.
Iran Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian warned on Sunday his country could act, telling al Jazeera that it had conveyed a message to Israeli officials that "if they do not cease their atrocities in Gaza, Iran cannot simply remain an observer." "If the scope of the war expands, significant damages will also be inflicted upon America," he warned.
Biden told CBS the threat of terrorism in the U.S. has increased due to growing unrest in the Middle East. He said, however, the U.S. can take care of wars in Israel and Ukraine and still maintain its "international defense."
Violence on Israel's northern border is already escalating. Lebanon's Iran-backed Hezbollah fighters launched attacks on Israeli army posts and a northern border village on Sunday; Israel retaliated with strikes in Lebanon.
The U.S. is urging Israel to hold off on its ground offensive to allow humanitarian efforts for Gaza's residents trapped in the area, several U.S. officials said.
Sullivan discussed a new weapons package for Israel and Ukraine that would be "significantly higher" than the previously reported $2 billion. He told CBS that Biden planned to have intensive talks on the package this week with the U.S. Congress, which has been hobbled by Republicans' struggles to pick a new speaker of the House of Representatives.
Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer, speaking in Tel Aviv on Sunday, said the U.S. Senate could move first to approve more funding for Israel. "We're not waiting for the House (of Representatives)," he said.
Republican Senator Lindsey Graham said on Sunday he is traveling to the region with other senators in coming days to push continued negotiations between Saudi Arabia and Israel.
Graham said he intended to introduce a bill that would "allow military action by the United States in conjunction with Israel to knock Iran out of the oil business" if Iran attacks Israel.
U.S. government officials also said they are mobilizing to help alleviate the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, anticipating a brutal ground offensive.
Israeli officials have made clear it will not be an easy or swift campaign. It faces the challenge that scores of hostages seized by Hamas on Oct. 7 could now be held in a warren of underground tunnels, which its soldiers must clear to destroy Hamas.
Biden, in a message posted on X, formerly Twitter, said: "We must not lose sight of the fact that the overwhelming majority of Palestinians had nothing to do with Hamas' appalling attacks, and are suffering as a result of them."
The U.S. has appointed former ambassador to Turkey David Satterfield as a special envoy for Middle East humanitarian issues. His focus would be to "promote the safety of civilians," the State Department said.
"We're pushing Israel to delay any action on the ground," said one U.S. official briefed on the situation. Asked directly if the U.S. was pushing Israel to delay its ground war for civilians, Sullivan told NBC "we are not interfering in their military planning or trying to give them instructions..."
However, he added, the U.S. is telling Israel any actions should follow the law of war, and that "civilians should have a real opportunity to get to safety."
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on Sunday that the Egyptian-controlled border crossing into Gaza would reopen and the U.S. was working with Egypt, Israel and the United Nations to get assistance through it.
Hundreds of tonnes of aid from several countries have been held up in Egypt's Sinai peninsula for days pending a deal for its safe delivery to Gaza and the evacuation of some foreign passport holders through the Rafah crossing.
Sullivan told NBC, "so far, we have not been able to get American citizens through the border crossing and I'm not aware of anyone else being able to get out at this time."
He added that he wanted to make sure the civilian population that remained in Gaza had access to food, water and safe shelter, and in an interview with CNN said Israeli officials had recently "turned the water pipe back on in southern Gaza."
Republican Senator Lindsey Graham told Reuters that the Israel assault on Gaza would be bloody.
"I expect urban warfare on steroids," he said. "There will be cries from the international community for Israel to stand down, but I think it's imperative that we give Israel the time and space to destroy Hamas."
(Reporting by Nandita Bose, Katharine Jackson, Christopher Bing, and Steve Holland in Washington; Writing by Raphael Satter; Editing by Heather Timmons, Bill Berkrot and Sandra Maler)
