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richaceg

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Hamas repeatedly commited terrorism...targeting innocent civilians...then hide behind palestinians when facing retribution.... Israel warns civilians to evacuate evacerate pinpoint strategic military targets...I wouldn't put it past Hamas to of course put civilians in those installations.... it's their MO ever since...inflict damage and when Israel retaliates...they made sure there will be civilians victims....to gain sympathy....
 
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You can tell this guy...
or this guy...
 
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Hamas IS a terrorist group. They do not have any right to designate anyone as terrorists. Terrorists are designated by legitimate governments, not other terror groups.
No, terrorists are not designated by governments, they are designated by the acts they commit.
Israel is committing even more terrorism right now and on a much larger scale than Hamas did.
By your own logic you think Hamas was right attack Israel for the 233 terrorist settler attacks this year.

I say calling anyone a 'terrorist' does not give you the right to kill them.
Use the law, not violence.

Terrorism:

Terrorism:

Terrorism.
 
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The actual definition of terrorism.
Acts of violence for political gain.

Erego
Israel’s acts are not terrorism
Hamas/Palestinians are.

Hence why Hamas is listed as a terrorist group and Isreal isn’t.
Israel's goal - the elimination of the democratically elected party Hamas
That's political and therefore terrorism.

So why do you support some terrorism and they say other terrorism is evil?

 

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No, terrorists are not designated by governments, they are designated by the acts they commit.
Yes. Terrorists are designated by governments based on the acts they commit. The Hamas is a designated terror group per Canada for example.
 

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Yes. Terrorists are designated by governments based on the acts they commit. The Hamas is a designated terror group per Canada for example.
They are not the only ones that can say so.
Otherwise you'd still be saying that Nelson Mandela is a terrorist.
Otherwise you'd say Mahatma Gandhi was a terrorist.
And you'd be saying Modi is a terrorist.
 

richaceg

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Israel's goal - the elimination of the democratically elected party Hamas
That's political and therefore terrorism.

So why do you support some terrorism and they say other terrorism is evil?

Your posts doesn't describe Israel's actions...i.t describes Hamas actions....
Palestinians were given warning to evacuate...they were not held hostages in exchange for something.
Hamas didn't give warnings (textbook terrorist move...remember the Nazi? Blitzkrieg?
 

richaceg

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They are not the only ones that can say so.
Otherwise you'd still be saying that Nelson Mandela is a terrorist.
Otherwise you'd say Mahatma Gandhi was a terrorist.
And you'd be saying Modi is a terrorist.
Wrong....nice generalization though...
How many times have you said, Israel is committing terrorism? like it's one entity that synchronizing one action....to annihiliate palestinians....oh wait...there are palestinians living in Israel...safe and sound....tell me this isn't true?
You can't call Nelson Mandela, Mahatma Gandhi or Modi terrorists...none of their objectives says...."eliminate the jews or any other group of people"...
 
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richaceg

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2006 was the last election.
2007 Israel enacted the blockade in response
Elections have been impossible since.
If Israel enacted a blcokade, that's to protect it's citizen from Gaza being run by terrorists vowing to destroy Israel and it's citizens....good call...
 

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They are not the only ones that can say so.
Otherwise you'd still be saying that Nelson Mandela is a terrorist.
Otherwise you'd say Mahatma Gandhi was a terrorist.
And you'd be saying Modi is a terrorist.
No, I wouldn't be saying that. Gandhi and Mandela promoted non-violence. Not civilian mass murder like the Hamas. Modi is a democratically elected leader who has nothing to do with terrorism.
 

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So they really want Hamas gone...not palestinians...
How many people do you think are in Hamas?
Will Israel have to kill everyone who is a supporter, who voted for Hamas?
How about the 50% of Gaza that wasn't even born before Hamas came to power?

How many Palestinians do you think Israel needs to kill to 'wipe them off the earth'?
 

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So they really want Hamas gone...not palestinians...
Bibi is full of shit though lol. He actually propped up the Hamas because he believed their existence would delegitimize Palestinian statehood. Looks like that came back to bite back in the ass.
 

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No, I wouldn't be saying that. Gandhi and Mandela promoted non-violence. Not civilian mass murder like the Hamas. Modi is a democratically elected leader who has nothing to do with terrorism.
Your definition of terrorism is based on your own racism and politics.
You just confirmed it.

You use it to justify terrorism you support.
You are no better than Hamas.
 

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Bibi is full of shit though lol. He actually propped up the Hamas because he believed their existence would delegitimize Palestinian statehood. Looks like that came back to bite back in the ass.
Guess that means they'll have to eliminate Hamas' biggest supporter.

 
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