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mitchell76

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Well…If the US wants to support Israel (which as a Trump guy I assume you support) then getting innocent civilians out of Gaza would certainly help the Israeli Defense Forces avoid civilian casualties and accusations of war crimes.
Why should Israel ever be accused of war crimes, when it was Hamas who started the war, in the first place!!
 
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Knuckle Ball

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I drove by my children's former K to grade 7 Jewish day school last night, and saw a black small moving van size truck with "Toronto Police - Area Field Command" vehicle with flashing lights. Just keeping watch as far as I could tell.

Toady around noon I drove by the school again. The same vehicle was there, but also two police SUV's, and a white van with the words "Explosive Disposal Unit" on its side. A little while ago I drove by again and the white van and Police SUV's were gone.

I haven't heard or seen anything about it on the news, so I imagine it was a response to some asshole's prank phone call. Or maybe there was an actual threat...
HAMAS called for yesterday to be a Day of Rage across the Islamic World. Police forces all over the western world were on high alert.
 

Frankfooter

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No. You've explicitly chosen to back terrorist attacks against Israel.
Ah, its your amazing Kreskin routine again.
Doesn't matter what I say or any Palestinian says because you know what I'm really thinking.

You need a new schtick. This one's old.

Hey congrats on the success of your pogrom.
Your genocide is going well.

45 families wiped from Gaza civil registry: Ministry

All the living generations of 45 families have been wiped from the Gaza civil registry, the health ministry says.
At least 2,215 Palestinians have been killed and 8,714 wounded in Israeli air attacks on Gaza this week. The death toll will surge significantly if Israel launches a ground invasion into the besieged territory of about 2.3 million people.



Article 6 of the Rome Statute:
Genocide
For the purpose of this Statute, “genocide” means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

One
 

shack

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Israel is a nuclear armed state that gets $3.8 billion in US weapons every year.
Goliath.
But Little Buddy was saying previously that it is useless for Israel to fight back because of how badly they are outnumbered compared to the Arab world.

Undeniably he was saying that the Arab world is the Goliath.
 

Not getting younger

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I don’t think that is true, tho. It would seem that ordinary, non—HAMAS supporting Gazans could easily live with Israelis. Moreover, I believe HAMAS’ support would dwindle if Gazans had access to economic success.
And what, something you Palestinian supporters seem to forget that most Israelis are just normal people too.

And I’m pretty sure after 80 years of reneged on peace treaties, suicide attacks, war crimes, then rockets when crossing fences got harder.

Are done. Mostly likely Hamas and more will be too.
 
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Klatuu

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Ethnic cleansing or not, if the US can take them in and give them a green card, their lives will be so much better. Just saying.
“Ethnic cleansing or not” ? Ethnic cleansing is war crime under the Geneva Convention. And then you throw in a mindless “just saying” after speaking on behalf of a war crime. That’s flat out grotesque.
 
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Frankfooter

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Hamas did not respond to terrorism. They indulged in terrorism to take revenge for the past.
Are you denying the B'tselem report of 233 Israeli terrorist attacks by settlers in 2023?
Why are Israelis allowed to respond to terrorism but not Palestinians?

Why can you not suggest deescalation, ceasefire and the end of apartheid?
Why back more and more rounds of violence?
 

toguy5252

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I don’t think that is true, tho. It would seem that ordinary, non—HAMAS supporting Gazans could easily live with Israelis. Moreover, I believe HAMAS’ support would dwindle if Gazans had access to economic success.
Gazans could have had access to economic success if their resources had not been diverted to tunnels and rockets etc.
 
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Knuckle Ball

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Why should Israel ever be accused of war crimes, when it was Hamas who started the war, in the first place!!
Because if Israel goes into Gaza with a superior armed force and start indiscriminately bombing every building in sight then they will be causing huge civilian casualties. The rules of war are clear that armies are to take every reasonable measure to avoid civilian casualties.

If news stories start coming out of Gaza showing dead Palestinian babies then Israel will be accused of war crimes too…just like HAMAS only worse because Israel is the superior force. It would erode support for Israel around the world, including the US.
 

Frankfooter

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Yes given the situation I would, and am sure Israel would expect things like these to happen. Which they will use to further justify the apartheid as security measures. Which will cause more responses. Which will cause more reprisals. And round and round we go.
Which is why I back BDS to end apartheid and get off the cycle of violence.

 

mitchell76

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Because if Israel goes into Gaza with a superior armed force and start indiscriminately bombing every building in sight then they will be causing huge civilian casualties. The rules of war are clear that armies are to take every reasonable measure to avoid civilian casualties.

If news stories start coming out of Gaza showing dead Palestinian babies then Israel will be accused of war crimes too…just like HAMAS only worse because Israel is the superior force. It would erode support for Israel around the world, including the US.
So what. Israel's allowed to do whatever they want to defend themselves. Just too repeat, it was Hamas, who started the war, in the first place!! The US already gave permission to Israel to defend themselves, how they see fit!!
 

Frankfooter

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And despite me saying explicitly that Israel is a racist state that practices apartheid, you accuse me of excusing apartheid. Like do you even read responses? Or are you purposefully gas lighting?
You have only called out Hamas.
Not once have you even suggested that Israel is in the wrong about anything, including the occupation and apartheid.
 

Kautilya

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“Ethnic cleansing or not” ? Ethnic cleansing is war crime under the Geneva Convention. And then you throw in a mindless “just saying” after speaking on behalf of a war crime. That’s flat out grotesque.
Am aware Ethnic cleansing is a war crime. I dont agree that what is happening today is ethnic cleansing. Also I am talking about a hypothetical scenario where the US gives Palestinians a green card. Why is that grotesque?
 

shack

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Your racism is as much the problem as shack and Zionist racism.
How many people, who have the audacity to disagree with you, have you had a chance to call racist so far? All everybody is saying is that Hamas' attack last week caused the current conflict. The world, outside of the Arab peoples, agrees with this. And even many people of Arab descent agree with this.

You are a fringe element.

Try these fringes instead. It would be an improvement.

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Kautilya

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Are you denying the B'tselem report of 233 Israeli terrorist attacks by settlers in 2023?
Why are Israelis allowed to respond to terrorism but not Palestinians?

Why can you not suggest deescalation, ceasefire and the end of apartheid?
Why back more and more rounds of violence?
This particular attack by Hamas, was in planning for TWO years. The settler attacks you are referring to happened in 2023. So unless Hamas, time travelled and knew that there would be settler attacks for which they would have to respond in October 2023, you characterizing this terror attack as a response, is nonsensical.
 

Kautilya

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You have only called out Hamas.
Not once have you even suggested that Israel is in the wrong about anything, including the occupation and apartheid.
Literally READ the very statement you are responding to!! WTF! 🤯
 

shack

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Well the reprisal was always going to be brutal. The question is did you not expect that it wont happen that way? Because am sure Hamas did. Yet they attacked.
Hence, they care nothing about the welfare of the Gazans. There is no other conclusion to be had.

frank is too coward to admit that he very well knew that there would be reprisals and that the Gazans would be the ones paying the price. Yet he considers himself to be a crusader for the noble cause. Yeah, right.
 
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