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Leimonis

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Your racism is as much the problem as shack and Zionist racism.
How do you figure I am a racist? I don’t like radicals of any colour. I don’t like people who shoot up music festivals. As to people who voted for Hamas and brought them to power i kind of do feel a little bad about them, but that’s all.
 

Klatuu

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Well the reprisal was always going to be brutal. The question is did you not expect that it wont happen that way? Because am sure Hamas did. Yet they attacked.
The issue is whether you are going to clearly state that Israeli actions in Gaza are war crimes. There are experts everywhere that confirm it. The evidence stares you in face.
 
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Not getting younger

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Yes given the situation I would, and am sure Israel would expect things like these to happen. Which they will use to further justify the apartheid as security measures. Which will cause more responses. Which will cause more reprisals. And round and round we go.
Do you think after negotiating peace, withdrawal from the West Bank, Gaza,. Then Palestinians importing weapons, HAMAS coming on scene, scuttling the peace , saying they don’t want peace, launching suicide attacks, declaring they want all of historical Palestine. The fence and more wasn’t justified? What kind of fool are you Frank?

And same old Frank, you won’t answer anyone’s questions let alone uncomfortable ones. But deflect with questions and demand answers.
 

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It doesn't prove they can't coexist, it proves that Palestinians won't live in an open air prison under apartheid rule forever.
More justification/approval for Hamas' attack. You just can't help yourself.
 
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Frankfooter

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Which happened several months ago. And this attack has been in planning for the last 2 years. So no, they weren't responding.
They specifically said they were responding.

What it comes down to is you back one people based on racial prejudices and because of that are willing to excuse apartheid, an illegal occupation, terrorism and now genocide. Because of your racism.
 

Leimonis

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When was this and where was it recorded? Do you even know?
Does it matter? Aren’t they like that everywhere and all the time?
 

Kautilya

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The issue is whether you are going to clearly state that Israeli actions in Gaza are war crimes. There are experts everywhere that confirm it. The evidence stares you in face.
Of course they are war crimes.

Nothing about this entire conflict is not a war crime. Nothing about this entire conflict is not racist. This applies to both sides.

The point I am trying to make is that it is not useful to expand the scope of the discussion to everything that has happened over the years because that is a never ending exercise in finger pointing.

This PARTICULAR instance of an attack by Hamas, amounts to terrorism. Not self-defence. But terrorism. The reprisal is just as much brutal and a violation of human rights. But that is expected and was known before the attack by Hamas, and yet they chose to continue down this path. Which makes me question their commitment to their own people they say they are representing and defending.
 

Frankfooter

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More justification/approval for Hamas' attack. You just can't help yourself.
More of your racism.
You don't accept that Palestinians have human rights, including the right to self defence.
(they don't have the right to target civilians, but either does Israel and that includes the 233 terrorist attacks on Palestinians previous to this round)

I wondered at the rump supporters, how far down the moral shithole they are willing to follow their leader. The coup and attempts to cheat the election, rape, fraud and creeping fascism are one level of evil. But backing apartheid and genocide are another level entirely.
 

Kautilya

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Do you think after negotiating peace, withdrawal from the West Bank, Gaza,. Then Palestinians importing weapons, HAMAS coming on scene, scuttling the peace , saying they don’t want peace, launching suicide attacks, declaring they want all of historical Palestine. The fence and more wasn’t justified? What kind of fool are you Frank?

And same old Frank, you won’t answer anyone’s questions let alone uncomfortable ones. But deflect with questions and demand answers.
You are responding to the wrong post. Am not Frank. :LOL:
 

Kautilya

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They specifically said they were responding.

What it comes down to is you back one people based on racial prejudices and because of that are willing to excuse apartheid, an illegal occupation, terrorism and now genocide. Because of your racism.
They couldnt have started planning something 2 years ago as a response to something that happened a few months ago. Unless they are time travellers which am willing to bet they are not. lol.

And despite me saying explicitly that Israel is a racist state that practices apartheid, you accuse me of excusing apartheid. Like do you even read responses? Or are you purposefully gas lighting?
 
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Knuckle Ball

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The issue is whether you are going to clearly state that Israeli actions in Gaza are war crimes. There are experts everywhere that confirm it. The evidence stares you in face.
I believe the fact that the Israelis have cut off the gas and electricity to Gaza is already considered a war crime?
 
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