Israel at war

Leimonis

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You've already said it.
Israeli Arabs live peacefully with almost full human rights, including the vote.

17 years of blockade with attacks every 2-3 years has done fuck all.
Hamas, like the Netanyahu government, are extremists that can only maintain power through farming anger.
Take away the anger and their power goes.

If Rwanda can get over a genocide, Israel can get past this.
If South Africa can get past apartheid, so can Israel.

You have a better plan?
Genocide?

Doesn't BDS sound more reasonable?
Israel only has 7 million people. It cannot assimilate 2 million Gazans. I dont see it being proposed by anyone. Palestinians propose to kill Israelis and take all israel. That I hear loud and clear.
 
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nottyboi

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Last I heard, the tooth fairy doesn't scam off development aid from his own people and use it to build villas for his leadership cadre in Monaco and Spain.
THere is a land sea and air blockade on Gaza, even the effin tooth fairy could not get through.
 

Leimonis

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THere is a land sea and air blockade on Gaza, even the effin tooth fairy could not get through.
Money don’t need to travel by sea or air
 

Not getting younger

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Have you noticed no nations are coming to help Hamas? No sanctions, no unified call to arms? Just generic calls for peace.

Israel is going in. They are going to either eradicate Hamas, or set them so far back the power will be broken. There is a very real possibility that the Palestinians will be pushed into Egypt. Or relocated to the West Bank. Or other combinations.

After that, as I said, the Gaza Strip will be leveled, rebuilt as a region of Israel. Free.
Exactly what they should have done way back when Hamas and Palestinians sewered peace and the Oslo accords. Nor gently.

Whatever has transpired since, is on Palestinians. And whatever happens over the next bit, is also on them. Including should it escalate.
 
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Not getting younger

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Not surprised at all. Said as much at the beginning in the “Is Russia involved” thread. Anything they can do, to force the US to focus more on the Mid East, and they certainly will. Instability there…Oil, oil prices, economies and inflation..As is

Oil futures are up 4% ( though might be seasonal). and depends which delivery dates ( next spring or summer)
UST yields are down ( meaning short term UST prices are up)

One key potential take away
Treasury yields, which move inversely to price, advanced
on Thursday after data showed U.S. consumer prices in September
rose more than expected, suggesting the Federal Reserve might
need to raise rates further to tame high inflation.
The yield on the 10-year Treasury fell on Friday to about
the same level when trading opened as the start of the week when
the initial weekend attack by the Palestinian Islamist group
Hamas on Israel led bond prices to jump and yields to tumble.
The goal is to get into a safe asset that would work if
the ground assault gets bad over the weekend, said Marvin Loh,
senior global macro strategist at State Street in Boston.
Puts more strain on the USs bank accounts, and potentially gets the US involved there should it escalate. Take it another step. Is there anything to gain for Syria or Iran, if they do the same, drag the west into it? and ultimately help Russia out?

“Who knows”…how it’s going to play out.
Am also guessing, like Covid none of the experts in the Ukraine/Russia war threads saw this coming or considered it.

Point being. Sunny days last forever.
 
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Klatuu

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Israel Losing its Value as an Ally

Further evidence, the need of the US and UK to send naval forces to shore up an incompetent Israel. Saudi Arabia has stepped normalization talks. This has been a staggering defeat. Israel will only compound its decline with the slaughter of Palestinian civilians they plan on inflicting.

 
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Not getting younger

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Lmao.

When has Israel‘s value to the West, ever been about protecting their oil interest in the Mid East. When has Isreal other than maybe intelligence been a factor in military operations with US or the same/similar..Desert Storm…Saddam and weapons of MD? Afghanistan and many more?

Hey Klatuu, I think we’ve all noticed you avoiding just who shattered and flushed peace down the drain when it was oh so close
 
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THere is a land sea and air blockade on Gaza, even the effin tooth fairy could not get through.
I guess that $$$ would need to go directly to the Swiss and Panamanian bank accounts then..... 🙂
 
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Point I am making is there is no durable military solution. 9M vs over 500m. They could probably take Israel on with sticks and win.
Nothing ventured, Nothing gained.

David didn't do too badly against Goliath.
 
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