Israel at war

[nottyboi]

Look at some maps of the front line in Ukraine from time to time, Tanky-man.

I have the lines have barely moved. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/09/28/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-map-front-line.html

Ukraine threw the entire army with western tanks at the Russians and did not even penetrate the first fortified line other then a few guys taking selfies there.

 

[mandrill]

Of course the are responsible, they control the borders.

Sort of like the US is responsible for Canada because they man the border crossings at Sarnia and Windsor?

 

[Leimonis]

I don't know what the Israeli plan is. I don't think they want to occupy Gaza.

I'm guessing that they're just going to wreck it to fuck, run up a massive HAMAS casualty count and then come back out.

How the hell would they relocate 2 million ppl

 

[mandrill]

I have the lines have barely moved. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/09/28/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-map-front-line.html

Ukraine threw the entire army with western tanks at the Russians and did not even penetrate the first fortified line other then a few guys taking selfies there.

Keep looking.

And while you're at it, tell me what happened last week to the Russian Avdiivka counter-counter offensive?

 

[mandrill]

How the hell would they relocate a 2 million ppl area

Exactly. They can't.

 

[mandrill]

Still waiting for your verified source.

Whats wrong? Fake beheaded baby claims doesn’t fit with presenting Israeli‘s as suffering victims?

You can google this. But the source is the Israeli government.

 

[toguy5252]

Yes and it would have been amazing if there was a tooth fairy as well.

Do you seriously think that Gaza would look like it does today if Hamas and its predecessors had devoted its resources to building a country instead of perpetual war?

 

[nottyboi]

Keep looking.

And while you're at it, tell me what happened last week to the Russian Avdiivka counter-counter offensive?

This is allagedly a Ukrainian soldier

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1712707853721510372

tonight:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1712707853721510372

Avdiivka is only one assault. Every battle will have setbacks and for both sides. Russia added 375l volunteers since jan.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

I don't know what the Israeli plan is. I don't think they want to occupy Gaza.

I'm guessing that they're just going to wreck it to fuck, run up a massive HAMAS casualty count and then come back out.

And unfortunately rinse and repeat.

 

[Leimonis]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1712852562632671307

 

[Frankfooter]

there is hardly such thing as "what palestinians are thinking".
But hamas let's everyone know what they think

Palestinian Authority and Hamas


Hamas, in contrast, does not recognize Israel as a legitimate government. Furthermore, Hamas denies the legitimacy of the Oslo I Accord.[12]

Why are you on about this?
Hamas was not invited to join Oslo.
As it were, they were smart not to take part as the Oslo talks were just used as an Israeli tactic to stall while Netanyahu placed half a million settlers in the occupied territories. Netanyahu used Oslo to kill the two state solution.

 

[xmontrealer]

BTW, has anybody here taken a serious look at how Muslim countries have been treating their Christian populations, if any still exist?

Christians were indigenous to the Middle East well before Muslims were...

 

[Frankfooter]

Lies.

Hamas embeds themselves in civilian areas and buildings.

No.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1711190819799986216

 

[Frankfooter]

Israel warns northern Gaza residents to leave, tells U.N. 1.1 million residents should evacuate within 24 hours - CBS News
Israel warns Gazan residents to get out of harm's way.

Hamas tells Gaza residents to stay put as Israel ground offensive looms | Reuters
Hamas wants Gazans to remain in harm's way.

This is proof that Israel cares more about Gazans than Hamas does.

No, they've been hitting them when they flee and hitting them when they stay.
70 Palestinians were hit trying to flee.
The rest know that if they flee they will never be let back in, it will be another Nabka.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1712997690131267835

 

[Frankfooter]

HAMAS has half-trained, semi equipped undisciplined militia. They can't take on a real army, let alone one as good as the IDF. The casualty differential will be massive and the battle will really only last a couple of days before HAMAS collapses.

And Ukraine couldn't defend themselves from Russian occupation either.
No country can occupy a land forever.

In 2021 there were global protests linking BLM to PLM.
Then 4 major reports detailing apartheid.

Israel won't fall by military, though they will never hold the occupied territories peacefully.
Israel will be changed by BDS, sanctions will end apartheid.
And Palestinians are the majority.

 

[Frankfooter]

I don't know what the Israeli plan is. I don't think they want to occupy Gaza.

I'm guessing that they're just going to wreck it to fuck, run up a massive HAMAS casualty count and then come back out.

Exactly.

Netanyahu will kill as many as he can get away with before everyone turns on him. He'll take sympathy from the Hamas attack and blow it all with the siege of Gaza. The same strategy they've done every 2-3 years during the 17 year long blockade. Still hasn't worked.

But now Israel are known globally as the racist oppressors. How long can countries back apartheid?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1712883784192794914

 

[Frankfooter]

You can google this. But the source is the Israeli government.

That's admitting its fake.

Exactly. They can't.

Israel will say they warned them, they weren't civilians and start the genocide for real.
And targeting civilians? How does this not make Israel worse than Hamas?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1712998474017296589

 

[Leimonis]

Why are you on about this?
Hamas was not invited to join Oslo.
As it were, they were smart not to take part as the Oslo talks were just used as an Israeli tactic to stall while Netanyahu placed half a million settlers in the occupied territories. Netanyahu used Oslo to kill the two state solution.

Okay fuck Netanyahu tell me what does the end of apartheid mean for israel other than raise of hamas and a further war? Let’s hear a solution not buzzwords.
I think israel is just like Ukraine now: everyone keeps talking nonsense about truce when it’s only going to signal to their attackers that violence works. Hamas and Russia don’t respect weakness. It would only lead to more blood.

 

[Frankfooter]

Okay fuck Netanyahu tell me what does the end of apartheid mean for israel other than raise of hamas and a further war? Let’s hear a solution not buzzwords

You've already said it.
Israeli Arabs live peacefully with almost full human rights, including the vote.

17 years of blockade with attacks every 2-3 years has done fuck all.
Hamas, like the Netanyahu government, are extremists that can only maintain power through farming anger.
Take away the anger and their power goes.

If Rwanda can get over a genocide, Israel can get past this.
If South Africa can get past apartheid, so can Israel.

You have a better plan?
Genocide?

Doesn't BDS sound more reasonable?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1712748605495193872

 

[nottyboi]

Do you seriously think that Gaza would look like it does today if Hamas and its predecessors had devoted its resources to building a country instead of perpetual war?

Yes Israel would have bombed everything they built.