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Mandrill, you're smarter than this.

You've argued that Ukrainians are right to resist the Russian occupation but now argue that Palestinians are in the wrong to resist the occupation of Palestine?

Palestinians have tried everything for peace.
Oslo Accords - 20 years and all they got was Netanyahu stalling while he put in 500,000 settlers in the occupied territories as 'facts on the ground'
BDS - have you seen the attacks if you mention BDS here or in the public life?
International law - They've petitioned the ICC and UN and nothing has happened.
Protesting - the people of Gaza walked to the walls to protest every Friday for a year and Israel used snipers to kill 200 and injure 36,000

Now they are left with a violent resistance. No, they can't target civilians but nobody calls out Israel when they do so.

The truth of the matter is that Palestine has been erased from the map already by Israel.
That for decades Israel has been terrorizing and killing the indigenous Palestinian population.
And around the world people are starting to see PLM protests alongside BLM.

The killing has been by the occupying power, not the victims of the occupation for decades.
The bombing of Gaza, cut off from water, food and electricity, will turn it into a death camp.

Your revisionism here is outstanding.
 

mandrill

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so... if a million Palestinian civilians, women and children die ( that would be a thousand to one), it's still all Hamas' fault? You can't kill your way to peace.
If HAMAS uses them as a human shield, sure.

Let's see how it plays out.
 

Robert Mugabe

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You forgot to add that Israel was secretly diverting Palestinian tax revenue to Arafat‘s secret Bank Leumi accounts in Israel.
and you forgot to mention...
And of course Arafat gave it all back to his people. lol. He died a Swiss bank account billionaire.
 

Klatuu

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and you forgot to mention...
And of course Arafat gave it all back to his people. lol. He died a Swiss bank account billionaire.
Thanks to a corrupt Israeli government secretly stealing Palestinian tax revenues. Imagine that, the Israeli government secretly stealing Palestinian tax revenue and giving to a person they were publicly proclaiming was a terrorist.
 

Robert Mugabe

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Thanks to a corrupt Israeli government secretly stealing Palestinian tax revenues.
LOL. What are you smoking? Israel made it's fortune stealing Palestinian tax revenues while sharing it with Arafat. LOL. sounds like George Soros is at the bottom of this conspiracy.
 

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I sympathize with both perspectives; like many political issues, this seems unending. It strikes me as hypocritical that there's unwavering backing for a nation engaged in military occupation in another country.
 
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Klatuu

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LOL. What are you smoking? Israel made it's fortune stealing Palestinian tax revenues while sharing it with Arafat. LOL. sounds like George Soros is at the bottom of this conspiracy.
Mensa material you are not.

“The stockpile went well beyond the portfolio. Arafat accumulated another $1 billion with the help of -- of all people -- the Israelis. Under the Oslo Accords, it was agreed that Israel would collect sales taxes on goods purchased by Palestinians and transfer those funds to the Palestinian treasury. But instead, Indyk says, "that money is transferred to Yasser Arafat to, amongst other places, bank accounts which he maintains off-line in Israel."

Until three years ago, Israel put the tax revenues into Arafat's account at Bank Leumi in downtown Tel Aviv, no questions asked. But why?

According to Indyk, "The Israelis came to us and said, basically, 'Arafat's job is to clean up Gaza. It's going to be a difficult job. He needs walking-around money,' because the assumption was that he would use it to get control of all of these terrorists who'd been operating in these areas for decades”

 

Robert Mugabe

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Mensa material you are not.

“The stockpile went well beyond the portfolio. Arafat accumulated another $1 billion with the help of -- of all people -- the Israelis. Under the Oslo Accords, it was agreed that Israel would collect sales taxes on goods purchased by Palestinians and transfer those funds to the Palestinian treasury. But instead, Indyk says, "that money is transferred to Yasser Arafat to, amongst other places, bank accounts which he maintains off-line in Israel."

Until three years ago, Israel put the tax revenues into Arafat's account at Bank Leumi in downtown Tel Aviv, no questions asked. But why?

According to Indyk, "The Israelis came to us and said, basically, 'Arafat's job is to clean up Gaza. It's going to be a difficult job. He needs walking-around money,' because the assumption was that he would use it to get control of all of these terrorists who'd been operating in these areas for decades”

"Mensa material you are not."


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"The Israelis came to us and said, basically, 'Arafat's job is to clean up Gaza. It's going to be a difficult job. He needs walking-around money,':LOL:
 

richaceg

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so... if a million Palestinian civilians, women and children die ( that would be a thousand to one), it's still all Hamas' fault? You can't kill your way to peace.
Israel have no intention of turning Gaza into rubble....until Hamas attacked.. notice how even there are still buildings standing in Gaza?
 

Dutch Oven

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A heated debate and YES on FOX. Disregard Sean's ridiculous political spin against the left.


 

Leimonis

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"Powerful"??!?!?!?!?!

A couple hundred hippies at a music festival?!?!?!

Let's see what happens. Your "expertise" in Ukraine has been pretty sad and off base. The HAMAS "army" is untrained, undisciplined militia. Probably with limited heavy weapons and tech and primitive tactics. I'm betting they're going to get massacred like your Russians are currently getting outside Avdiivka.
I don't think you can compare fighting in an open field/village vs fighting in a city landscape like gaza where they booby trapped very passage and shoot from every window. You'd literally have to destroy and flatten the city to take it. And then there are tunnels.
 

Dutch Oven

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Well, easier said than done.
Life is not easy, but also not impossible. Hopefully, military defeat isn't the only way for a society to transition from evil leadership, although that proved to be necessary in WWII. Maybe it will be necessary again in Gaza.
 

Dutch Oven

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I don't think you can compare fighting in an open field/village vs fighting in a city landscape like gaza where they booby trapped very passage and shoot from every window. You'd literally have to destroy and flatten the city to take it. And then there are tunnels.
Yes, the urban areas of Gaza may have to be flattened if Hamas does not surrender unconditionally.
 
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