Modi scolds Trudeau over Sikh protests in Canada against India

[basketcase]

India has been asking for Canada's cooperation for YEARS. So far the response has been what you'd expect from someone being asked to investigate his own crime. See? Two can play that game.

Should Canada investigate whether Canadians are actually involved in committing or inciting terror or should we simply take India's word for it? From what has been published, Nijjar's work in Canada has been solely political; any evidence Nijjar was working with them would have resulted in him never getting citizenship.

Yes there are Sikh terrorists as designated by Canada but I would expect Canada does a decent job of researching citizenship applicants.


Canadian citizens are Canadian citizens and evidence a foreign government is involved in their killing needs to be investigated. Would you be okay if Canada shipped you back to India simply because they accused you of terrorism?

 

[Darts]

How are Sikhs so powerful in Canada? It’s not about their numbers (theprint.in)

 

[canada-man]

After Justin Trudeau linked the killing of Khalistani Terrorist Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Canada to India, another Khalistani terrorist Sukhdool Singh was killed on Canadian soil amidst a fiery inter-gang rivalry. Two rival gangs have stepped up to claim responsibility for this audacious act, but Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has chosen silence at this crucial juncture. It raises questions about whether Trudeau has become a guardian of gangsters and highlights the concerning presence of Khalistani gangsters and their activities in Canada.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yes they should investigate. I think that is what India was asking for as well and I tried to find what they gave Trudeau and it sounds like they gave him dossiers on these guys. I dont think India was asking Canada to just hand over people. Few people here were talking as if Modi is an illiterate goon and just handed Trudeau a napkin with names on it. lol.

India was not asking Canada to investigate the Indian threats against Nijjar.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1704956604813312331

 

[Frankfooter]

I heard a diplomatic statement that the US will wait and watch, until evidence is presented. That is my position too. And it should be yours as well. Why would you jump to conclusions because Trudeau said so?

And yes, India gave dossiers to Trudeau in 2018 to investigate the terrorists.

So you're saying CSIS had the Modi allegations for 5 years and instead of arresting Nijjar they warned him that Modi's government wanted to kill him?
And you still back Modi?

 

[Frankfooter]

Trudeau was provided dossiers 5 years ago and informed about these extremists and he did nothing with it, is what am saying.

Also CSIS apparently told Nijjar that he was under threat from professional assassins. Not India or Modi.

Nijjar was most likely involved in some gang warfare and got killed by one of his opposing factions and Trudeau probably just leveraged it. Also why is he silent now, that another Khalistani extremist was shot dead today by another gang?

Regardless if Trudeau provides conclusive evidence that India killed Nijjar on foreign soil I will call out India as wrong. Until then it is just hot air.

I doubt you would change your mind.
Just like MAGA will never abandon rump.

 

[bver_hunter]

I doubt you would change your mind.
Just like MAGA will never abandon rump.

kautilya is like Trump during that Summit with Putin. Trump stated:

"President Putin says it's not Russia. I don't see any reason why it would be," he replied."

Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit

The US president contradicts intelligence agencies over claims of interference in the US election.

www.bbc.co.uk

kautilya trusts Modi more than CSIS!! All you have to replace is "President Putin" with "PM Modi". and "Russia" with "India"!!

 

[Frankfooter]

Trudeau made the accusation, so the onus of proof is on him.

According to the reports Modi sent CSIS accusations, CSIS warned Nijjah, CSIS has shared 5 eyes intel and dignitary communications and it was a CSIS leak that made Trudeau bring the accusations public.

But you can keep repeating Trudeau is bad and Modi good, as we know you will.
We've seen it repeatedly with MAGA.

 

[lomotil]

People who immigrate to Canada should leave their political and other baggage behind them and not bring their problems to Canada. We have enough of our own. They should be happy to build a new life in Canada and not use this country to fight their old battles back in their home countries. Why are no Canadian politicians speaking up on this issue? Trudeau and Singh are just playing this up to gain votes from the Sikh community in this case.

The Sikh community in Canada is said to have significantly higher voter turn out than the general population. Any savy politician ” worth their salt” would exploit this.
Any country such as Canada which is necessarily beholden to immigration for sustenance should anticipate that those immigrants
relocating from conflicted and troubled lands will bring in some baggage and may continue to agitate for change back home.
IRA Irish , Eritreans and Tamil Tigers and some others come to mind.

As for Trudeau, his brand is now burnt and he is now completely damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t on practically every issue.
And doom and malaise will shroud the land when it is finally realized that PM elect Poilievre mini CCP emperor has “ no clothes” and is less than “all hat and no cattle”

 

[bver_hunter]

People who immigrate to Canada should leave their political and other baggage behind them and not bring their problems to Canada. We have enough of our own. They should be happy to build a new life in Canada and not use this country to fight their old battles back in their home countries. Why are no Canadian politicians speaking up on this issue? Trudeau and Singh are just playing this up to gain votes from the Sikh community in this case.

Pee Pee is also playing sitting on the fence game. He definitely wants the votes of the Hindu Indians who support Modi. We all know that if The Globe and Mail disclosed this story before Trudeau announced it, then no doubt Pee Pee would have denounced him for not disclosing it publicly, as this was something that Trudeau was briefed on before his trip to India. That is why this whole Trade Deal with India was put on hold!!

 

[bver_hunter]

I was calling him a Pakistani - as in an actual national of Pakistan. That isn't a slur. Because Pakistanis (nationals of Pakistan) on the internet, will make the same arguments he makes. They love bringing up Hindu Nationalism, calling Modi a terrorist etc., trying to mask the terrorism they harbour and direct towards India. They love speaking about minority rights, forgetting the fact that they abuse and murder their Shia (aka Muslim) minority people. Same with bver_hunter as well. I can instantly tell who these guys are just based on experience lol. You can literally feel their anger and resentment towards India. Thankfully I have only found this to be an online phenomenon.

I wasn't calling him a "Paki" though, that doesn't make sense coming from another brown guy.

Obviously, you have the logic of a 9 year old. I am Canadian who was stationed in the UK when my parents were transferred there from Canada for several years. I have no ties with Pakistan and have denounced their Governments over the years with their treatment of the religious minorities / sects and women. Have also denounced The Modi government for his similar treatment and that is why several Christians have fled from there to Canada. I know some of those families and they are grateful to be in Canada. So show me where I embraced those Muslims who murdered the minority Shia Muslims? Obviously, you are a Hindu and not a Christian in the manner in which you support Modi. India's economy was trending upwards under The Congress party and continued to grow under Modi. Yet Modi will take all the credit, even though the per Capita GDP PPP is the lowest among the emerging markets.

Modi govt and Congress squabbling over per capita income, but both are using the wrong measure

Last month, finance ministry celebrated the fact that 'per capita income has more than doubled to Rs 1.97 lakh' since 2014. Congress claims per capita income grew '259 per cent' under UPA.

theprint.in

Pakistan is a disaster and that is why they are seeking aid from other Nations. They even jailed their ex-PM Imran Khan for the most ridiculous reason:

Pak Court Summons Jailed Imran Khan In 'Un-Islamic' Marriage Case: Report
Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan has been imprisoned in jail after being convicted in the Toshakhana case.

Pak Court Summons Jailed Imran Khan In 'Un-Islamic' Marriage Case: Report

A local court in Islamabad on Thursday summoned former Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan on September 25 in a case related to his alleged 'un-Islamic' marriage with Bushra Bibi, Pakistan-based The Express Tribune reported citing Express News.

www.ndtv.com

So keep your falsehoods to yourself, as you are defending a leader that wants to turn a Gandhi Secular Democracy called India into a Hindu Autocratic State!!

 

[Frankfooter]

According to reports, India provided dossiers to Trudeau. Trudeau did not act on it and CSIS informed Nijjar that professional assassins were after him. Most likely the CSIS was right - except the professional assassins were probably another Sikh faction or a gang.

It is not about good/bad. Trudeau jumped the gun to make an allegation. Am still waiting for proof.

Modi and his Hindu Nationalism is a side convo, it has nothing to do with this case.

It sounds like you're bringing your own Indian baggage into this country, a hatred of Sikhs, Pakistanis and support for Hindu nationalism through Modi.
What makes you different than Nijjar in this story?

 

[richaceg]

I worship the cross, you worship the cow.

You're a hindu nationalist. Like your idol Modi. Of course you love him.

This by far is one of the dumbest post I've seen here...alongside Franky's "even if you have evidence of terrorism...."
just because you worship the cross (i worship the cross too) doesn't mean you're right...

 

[richaceg]

It sounds like you're bringing your own Indian baggage into this country, a hatred of Sikhs, Pakistanis and support for Hindu nationalism through Modi.
What makes you different than Nijjar in this story?

You managed to bring in Trump in this topic...All of a sudden, Modi has now been labeled...looks like his take on the Ukraine-Russia conflict isn't received well by the west...

 

[Frankfooter]

You managed to bring in Trump in this topic...All of a sudden, Modi has now been labeled...looks like his take on the Ukraine-Russia conflict isn't received well by the west...

Sure, Modi is a populist and his supporters appear to sound like the orange guy's.
Its relevant.

 

[Frankfooter]

Hatred of terrorism is not hatred of Sikhs.

Support for a PM of my country of origin is not support for Hindu Nationalism. And Hindu Nationalism does not concern you or Canada. It is our business. You are not seeing any Hindu Nationalists on the streets of Canada.

The only thing that is of any concern to you or Canada are the Khalistani terrorists that are CANADIAN citizens operating out of Canada to do damage to India.

Selective hatred of terrorism, you mean. You accept allegations against Sikhs but refuse to accept allegations against Modi and Hindu nationalists.
And if you are now Canadian, is it still your business?

This country has a problem with Islamaphobia, have you been reading about the trial in London?
Hindu nationalism comes with Islamaphobia, which you haven't discussed or stated your against. Instead you've insulted Sikhs and used Pakistani as a derogatory term.
That is a big problem here, so yes, its our problem too.

Like you say, leave that baggage at the border.

 

[richaceg]

Sure, Modi is a populist and his supporters appear to sound like the orange guy's.
Its relevant.

everyone who opposes your view appears to be the same
coming from a guy who thinks even proven terrorists shouldn't expect violent repercussions....

 

[silentkisser]

They bombed Air India Flight 182 and killed 288 Canadians. Is that not breaking the law at the very least? Not to mention they coordinate attacks in India. Then they vandalize the Indian embassies and pull down the flag. Is that not illegal to do so even per Canadian law? So Canada harping on about freedom of speech for these idiots, is enabling them. IMO.

I have no problems with people who peacefully protest or even ask for Khalistan without killing people, bombing planes etc., Heck I don't even care about these guys pulling down the Indian flag even though it is very disrespectful. But sitting here in Canada as a Canadian citizen and then indulging in violent means to try and force change that their own people back home don't want is just straight up militancy/terrorism.

You are correct, the bombing was the worst terrorist attack in our history, and most people have forgotten about it. That being said, this group (which represents a fairly small number of the nearly 800K Sikhs in Canada) have not broken any of our laws. Which means, there is nothing we can really do to stop them. As far as I'm aware, they have done no terror attacks here or abroad. And if India did send someone to assassinate this dude, that is majorly problematic.

Now, that being said, I think we have a poor history of stopping terrorist financing to an extent. Like the Tamils, Canada allowed them to continue raise cash to fund an insurrection in Sri Lanka.

I will also say that Canada's relationship with India has been rocky for many years, and a lot of it has to do with Modi (though Trudeau does get a good chunk of the blame). But I don't think a PC government will have a huge amount of luck dealing with this as well.

 

[Frankfooter]

If India did send then that is problematic. But the other question is, to what extent was India involved, if at all? They say they had SIGINT and HUMINT. So did India send military personnel? Or did India hire someone to do the deed? That would be problematic. Or did India know that it was gang warfare, and the guy was going to be killed and the Indian diplomats just kept their mouths shut? If that is the case then you cannot blame India either. So the first thing that needs to happen, is for the government to present conclusive evidence for the accusation that has been made. If the investigation was not complete, and the results were unclear, then the accusation should not have been made. Better, with a friendly country like India, they should have sorted it out through diplomatic channels.

I think Canada for some weird reason instead of cultivating good relations with India, has played "uppity" with India. First, they denied visas many years ago to Indian border security personnel. Those guys sacrifice their lives to keep Indians safe. Then the whole Modi thing. Modi did not create India's problems. He is one man lol.

And also I think Canada being a very safe country, and very isolated and sparsely populated, does not understand these people who have brought in a problem that Canada has nothing to do with but is having to deal with it because they are citizens. If there was more effort put into understanding these issues, they'd act faster.

Canada and the US both brought this killing up at the G20.
But you're still backing an Islamaphobic movement instead.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1705011613198336362

 

[Frankfooter]

They are right to bring it up. It does not implicate India however. Of course there will be questions, but at the end of the day the investigation has to be done, and evidence presented proving one thing or another.

For the president of the US and PM of Canada to bring up an allegation to Modi there has to be very serious evidence.
Why would you trust the word of Modi over both Biden and Trudeau?