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"Israel, Similar to Apartheid": Ekos Canada Poll

Darts

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We visited Israel a couple of times with a Jewish Canadian couple and noticed that the Hebrew spoken by the Jewish Canadian couple sounded a little different than that spoken by native Israelis. No, we were too polite to ask the Jewish Canadian couple why their Hebrew sounded different.

I think basketcase already answered the question. Don't read too much into the question. Just curious. Let's move on.
 

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We visited Israel a couple of times with a Jewish Canadian couple and noticed that the Hebrew spoken by the Jewish Canadian couple sounded a little different than that spoken by native Israelis. No, we were too polite to ask the Jewish Canadian couple why their Hebrew sounded different.

I think basketcase already answered the question. Don't read too much into the question. Just curious. Let's move on.
Keep in mind also, I'm assuming that that couple's first language was English.
 

Frankfooter

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Keep in mind also, I'm assuming that that couple's first language was English.
You can't provide a map of what you think the borders of Israel are now or what a two state solution would look like, can you shack?
Why not?
 

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You can't provide a map of what you think the borders of Israel are now or what a two state solution would look like, can you shack?
Why not?
I answered you already. Why should I have to repeat myself?
 

Frankfooter

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I answered you already. Why should I have to repeat myself?
No, you have not answered.
You have never provided a map of what you think the borders of Israel are today.
Nor have you ever suggested a map of a possible two state solution.

Both are admissions that you know the apartheid one state solution is in effect.
 

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The IHRA definition isn't accepted in that many places, it attempts to call criticism of Israeli apartheid antisemitic.
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I don't care what Iran thinks, it's accepted in my country.

I love how you need to lie about it though since to quote it " However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic. "


BTW. Your boy Abbas continued with his incitement at the UN today with the trope that Jews are still trying to destroy Al Aqsa.
 

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86% support BDS.
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Again, BDS is not a peace plan and they do not endorse any peace plan.

Palestinians may support it but the majority of Palestinians also support "attacks on Jewish civilians inside Israel". It's important to listen to what they say but also important to criticize them when they do wrong like most people would do for any group.
 

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Get basketcase, toguy or shack to draw you a map they think both sides can agree to.
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Olmert's offer was fair according to what the UN, the Quartet, and the Arab League have said. Sadly Abbas doesn't want to talk peace and Hamas at best will offer a temporary truce for a peace deal.

 

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A map?
Same border, just give all Palestinians full human rights including the right to vote.
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Palestinians hate the idea. You'd need to find a way to convince them and disarm those that reject it or you find something else but that would involved holding Palestinians accountable for their choices; something your elitist brain is incapable of doing.
 

Frankfooter

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I most certainly did.
No, you have never replied.
The closest you have come is to say you don't think the one state will ever come to pass, despite it already being there.

Feel free to link to the post where you replied.
Once you make it up.
 

Frankfooter

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Again, BDS is not a peace plan and they do not endorse any peace plan.

Palestinians may support it but the majority of Palestinians also support "attacks on Jewish civilians inside Israel". It's important to listen to what they say but also important to criticize them when they do wrong like most people would do for any group.
I don't care what a settler colonial apartheid supporter like you thinks of BDS.
Your views are based on racial supremacy and trying to stop any form of peace that might challenge the apartheid state you back.

If you weren't constantly lying about how much you want to stop the violence you'd back it as the most peaceful solution.
But you are just as against peaceful solutions as you are against Palestinian human rights.

 

Frankfooter

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Olmert's offer was fair according to what the UN, the Quartet, and the Arab League have said. Sadly Abbas doesn't want to talk peace and Hamas at best will offer a temporary truce for a peace deal.

Olmert wouldn't give Abbas a map stating what he was offering.
There was no deal and no state.

But I'm curious, are you saying you would support using Olmert's map as the basis of a two state solution?
 

Frankfooter

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I don't care what Iran thinks, it's accepted in my country.

I love how you need to lie about it though since to quote it " However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic. "


BTW. Your boy Abbas continued with his incitement at the UN today with the trope that Jews are still trying to destroy Al Aqsa.
A trope?
 
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shack

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No, you have never replied.
You are so very wrong. I 100% replied.
How about this.

If I show you my reply you will not post anything on the board for a week.

If I cannot show you my reply, I will not post for a week.

The problem is that once I prove you wrong and produce my reply, you will renege on the bet because that's the type of guy you are i.e. disingenuous and untrustworthy. You will try to use semantics to weasel out of it. You'll use your typical sleazy tactics.
 

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You are so very wrong. I 100% replied.
How about this.

If I show you my reply you will not post anything on the board for a week.

If I cannot show you my reply, I will not post for a week.

The problem is that once I prove you wrong and produce my reply, you will renege on the bet because that's the type of guy you are i.e. disingenuous and untrustworthy. You will try to use semantics to weasel out of it. You'll use your typical sleazy tactics.
I won't make bets with someone who lies as often as you do on this board, shack.

The closest you came to a reply was stating its impossible to make a map of Israel as it exists now or a possible two state solution and then demanding I do so.
I gave you a clear answer, use the borders now just end apartheid and give all those living inside those borders equal rights, including the right to vote.

You refused to comment on that solution and also refused to even state where you think the borders of Israel lie right now. Like all supporters of Israel you won't admit Palestine is occupied or should exist despite claiming you support a two state solution and also won't admit that the apartheid one state solution is already in place. That leaves you stuck, if you state you think the border of Israel includes the OToP then its the one state apartheid solution in action, but you also can't admit that the settlements are illegal and you have also stated on this board that you don't think Israel should ever give any land they've taken by force back. Regardless of it making the two state solution possible. Regardless of international and most certainly regardless of your claim you support the two state solution.

Which leaves you as another MAGA like racial supremacist, where you think Jewish supremacy trumps all rights of Palestinian native to the land. That leaves you backing the one state apartheid solution, like basketcase and then yelling antisemite to anyone who dare talk about basic human rights.

The past is the past and it's been so long it is END OF STORY. No right of return or land claims for the Arabs.
'No land claims' means no two state solution.
Which leaves you as lying about claiming to support peace.
You support apartheid.

I can't read their minds. Asking us what other countries will agree to is total speculation.

Why don't you show us a map of the land you think the state of Israel is entitled to.

Guaranteed that you won't give a direct answer even though there is zero speculation as to what your own personal opinion is.

This will be the first time you won't give us your opinion because you don't think that Israel should exist at all but are too afraid to actually say so.
 
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shack

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I won't make bets with someone who lies as often as you do on this board, shack.
You support apartheid.
Hardly surprising coming from the biggest liar on the board. You are the pot calling the kettle black.
You lie every time you are losing a debate. BTW, I don't lie on the board. What for? It's anonymous.

And we were talking about whether I responded to a post of yours. That, in and of itself, is not political yet you manage to do your normal political, anti-Semitic, apartheid diatribe/verbal diarrhea. Why do you have so much hate.

I predicted what would happen. Potfooter has been exposed again for his lack of morality.
 
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