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Modi scolds Trudeau over Sikh protests in Canada against India

Anbarandy

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I would describe his defense of anything that impugns the reputation, integrity, credibility and the overarching awesomeness of India as rabid, rabidly nationalistic.
If Indians cannot be nationalistic for their country, then who will?

And leave it to snooty, uppity, self-righteous guys like you who don't know anything about India, to tell Indians what they should be doing. Nevermind that things like scientific development, space exploration, and "economic opportunism" as you called it, are infact the things that will alleviate the suffering of many of India's poor. The contradiction in your statement seems to escape you.

Oh and the next time you add an extra adjective to describe India/Indians in your posts make sure not to grind your teeth too hard. You may chip it and it may require a painful trip to the dentist. 😂
Marked as exhibit #1, your honour.
 

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"“Given the deteriorating security environment in Canada, Indian students in particular are advised to exercise extreme caution and remain vigilant,” the ministry added in a statement."
This is so over the top. Ridiculous.
As ridiculous, over the top and rabidly nationalistic as Kautilya's rabidly nationalistic, tribal and guttural urge to fend off all perceived attacks on the awesomeness of his tribe.
 
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richaceg

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Already they let Modi get away with a Russia friendly statement about Ukraine.
Get away with what franky? Not all world leaders agree with your views franky...Modi obviously wants nothing to do with the Ukraine-Russia conflict and focuses more on India's own problems.
 
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"“Given the deteriorating security environment in Canada, Indian students in particular are advised to exercise extreme caution and remain vigilant,” the ministry added in a statement."
This is so over the top. Ridiculous.
Agreed, this is just political propaganda and theatre right now, but if immigration to Canada from India drastically slows down, there will be economic damage..
Trudeau is too long on the hot seat and getting burned beyond recognition but many things that the current Liberal Feds are doing will have to continue with whichever government wins the next election including mass from immigration from somewhere to Canada.
The geopolitical and economic realities hitting Canada will be constant.
 
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richaceg

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It's clear now that Western countries no longer hold as much power to strong arm countries like India and China with sanctions...it spells major backfire if they do....
 
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Political assassination would be killing Rahul Gandhi (the leader of the opposition).

Nijjar is not an Indian political opponent. He is a separatist militant/terrorist. He is an enemy of the state because he conducts war against the state.
That's like saying Rene Levesque was terrorist seperatist and should have been shot. Or Lucian Bouchard.

We defeated them through reason, outreach and votes.
 
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As ridiculous, over the top and rabidly nationalistic as Kautilya's rabidly nationalistic, tribal and guttural urge to fend off all perceived attacks on the awesomeness of his tribe.
And he would cry racism/racist if we dare to challenge him.
 

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If Nijjar was clean why was he meeting with CSIS weekly? Why were there threats against him? Of course India warned JT and even provided names of persons, but isn't that what a country is supposed to do? I am not sure what you'd recommend India do in this case because these things happen within a system where the intelligence or security agencies provide a recommendation and then the govt. acts on it. They can't just call them cartoonish and ignore them given the history of violence.

But yes, I have no issues with the Khalistanis protesting, flying their flags, yelling "Death to India" and I can even tolerate them pulling down and desecrating the Indian flag from the embassy. But trying to attack and kill people (even if they are unimportant), while being Canadian citizens, should be banned and called terrorist. IMO. And belonging to an organization like that and leading a "Khalistan Tiger Force" is terrorism. I mean heck why would a Canadian citizen need to lead a "Khalistan Tiger Force" if not to attack India?
Well, if the state was threatening him, as JT and CSIS appear to be saying, those weekly meetings were because of Modi's government. CSIS knew about him and were apparently more worried that someone else would kill him than for Nijjar to commit any crimes himself here.

If Khalistanis were violent here I'd agree, but with 'nationalist' attacks getting 13,000 hits off your search engine choice seems they were pretty minor.
Not nearly as much of a separatist threat as the Bloc up here.
 

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That is what they are saying. But where is the evidence that Nijjar was being threatened by India or was killed by India? This is the first time in my life I am hearing anyone accuse India of acting on foreign soil. There is also no pay off.

Also, it wouldn't matter if the number of attacks were very minimal. The issue is that these people attacked the embassy and pulled down the Indian flag etc., and then Canada proceeded to call that freedom of speech. So then the issue is that technically Canada is enabling a group of terrorists or enemy combatants who have conducted and continue to conduct some attacks on India, while making a big statement by attacking the Indian embassy.
You're pushing a double standard.

You think Nijjar is a terrorist because other Sikh separatists committed terrorism 30 years ago.
You don't think Modi is a terrorist despite the massive history of Hindu nationalist violence.
 

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Who is a terrorist, freedom fighter, imperialist, conquistador etc. is entirely subjective and ambiguous with exploitation for political gain being guaranteed.
Only the anarchists are without an agenda.other than destruction.
 

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And how can they? It basically illegal for them to.
They risk their lives if they even talk about having their own homeland.

The pic below is of a mighty Sikh warrior on his way to battle the invaders.
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Nijjar is a terrorist because he has been implicated in multiple targeted killings in India. Infact, the chief minister of Punjab (Amarinder Singh, who is a Sikh himself) gave Trudeau a list of most wanted persons with this guys name on it. Regardless of all that, it is well known that the Khalistanis (who are Canadian citizens) were responsible for the bombing of Air India Flight 182. 329 people died. 288 of them Canadians. Is that a terrorist attack or no? If that was a terrorist attack, it follows that the Khalistani movement is a terrorist movement and belonging to that group automatically makes you a terrorist. So given all these guys are Canadian citizens that does make them a domestic terror group yet to be designated as one by the Canadian govt.
If what you are saying about Nijjar is correct then why didn’t the Indian government follow international laws and protocols around having Nijjar extradited? The fact that this did not happen would suggest that the Indian government had no actual evidence against Nijjar, no?
 

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Of course I am.

Modi has been in power only for 9 years. The former Indian PM before Modi, was himself Sikh. Why didn't the Sikhs in India ask for a referendum back then when Manmohan Singh was PM? Because they don't want it and don't care.

What would you say about a govt. that refuses to designate Khalistanis who killed 288 Canadians as terrorists?
You aren't Christian. You worship Krishna

They didn't ask because as you put it, they are the minority. It's clear when the threat of attack is neutralized, the discussion is different.

I would say vote the leader out. 😁

What would you say to a govt. that instigates nationalist to riot, rape and kill minorities then turn a blind eye and make excuses? Modi has 10x the amount of blood on his hands.
 

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The Indian government gave Trudeau, infact Amarinder Singh the CM of Punjab who himself is a Sikh, handed Trudeau a list of 9 names who were wanted for terrorism back in 2018, I think. Nijjar was one of them...
This is the difference between an authoritarian leader vs one who believes in democracy and the rule of law. In Canada, you cannot simply hand the PM a list of names and demand that he hand them over with no questions asked.

Canada has an extradition treaty with India.


There is a legal process through which this could have been done; the fact that they did not do this and (allegedly) chose instead to assassinate a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil suggests to me that either the Indian government had no evidence bjt wanted Nijjar dead anyway..
 
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