Hunter Biden heading for a trial

mitchell76

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Did you actually read the indictment. Try it if you really want an answer. You are doing a good job of cementing your position as the dumbest poster on this board.
Well, you're the worst speller on the board, so we're even....LMAO
 

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Are you seriously suggesting that this is just part of the business of the congress and specifically because it 8s intended to hurt Joe and help the stable genius. Seriously?
I think you are also conveniently ignoring the IRS whistleblowers. Where should Federal whistleblowers go to get a fair hearing? I think given the IRS and DOJ were implicated to a degree, Congress is a fine place for hearing them out.

Is this a matter of you don't like what they said so they have to be ignored and not treated fairly? Is that how the Whistleblower statute is suppose to work? I'm not sure you are interested in the whistleblower problem. Perhaps there is a better way to give them their opportunity to heard. I'm just not sure how.
 
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That is neither here nor there. It is a fact that an incumbent is generally harder to beat. Trump was an exception because of his own doing.

And the repugs have nobody to actually challenge Biden. The two most popular - Trump and DeSantis are floundering and it will only get worse for them.
Actually, where as "TERB's intellectual presence" ;) I now have the opportunity to give an American history lesson. This is regardless of a few members who have recently been on a kick to disavow history and precedence when it doesn't fit their narrative.

Recent Presidents losing a second term

Trump 2020
Bush 1992
Carter 1980

Recent two term Presidents

Obama
Bush Jr.
Clinton
Reagan

So I don't believe it's all that hard to knock off an incumbent President. I think everyone gets that you don't like DeSantis.
 
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WyattEarp

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Well why is that loser Jack Smith, charging Trump, with all these suspect indictments. The reason is, the Dems know that Biden is a loser candidate, and they're afraid that Trump will defeat Biden in a fair campaign!!
I don't think it will be that easy for Trump to win. If we have an economic soft-landing, Biden will be tough to beat.

Trump's strategy that he will not be able adjust boxes him into winning a few contested states by slim margins. He's not all that popular with suburban women and that's a big problem. Those are the numbers.
 
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Please name another non-politician that the US congress has investigated for 5 years or more.
Isn't it possible the five years of investigation weren't robust and lacked probity? It would be a good point, but it doesn't exactly contradict the special treatment argument. Some people have accused the DOJ of trying to run out the clock (statue of limitations).

As mitch has repeatedly stated, we know there were crimes. That's the backdrop of the plea deal.
 
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You always ask for proof, but you never watch the videos, that are presented to you....LMAO
But those aren't proof, Mitch. Those are usually 3rd hand hearsay from disgraced maybe-sources. Like that 3rd hand hearsay from the Ukrainian oligarch guy who's hiding out from an Interpol warrant and probably had his partner murdered.

You need first hand evidence and it helps if the informant isn't a notorious fraud who would say anything if he could profit by it.
 
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Isn't it possible the five years of investigation weren't robust and lacked probity? It would be a good point, but it doesn't exactly contradict the special treatment argument.
Well, it's nice to say that, but where is your proof that the FBI fucked up the investigation?

You need proof here, right? Simply saying that the Bidens are bad people doesn't get you an indictment from the grand jury.
As mitch has repeatedly stated, we know there were crimes. That's the backdrop of the plea deal.
Yuh. Hunter didn't pay income tax for 2 years and he didn't put the fact that he was a cocaine user on his firearms application. He admitted those crimes for the purposes of the plea deal. That's why there was a plea deal.

What else have you got?
 

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I think you are also conveniently ignoring the IRS whistleblowers. Where should Federal whistleblowers go to get a fair hearing? I think given the IRS and DOJ were implicated to a degree, Congress is a fine place for hearing them out.

Is this a matter of you don't like what they said so they have to be ignored and not treated fairly? Is that how the Whistleblower statute is suppose to work? I'm not sure you are interested in the whistleblower problem. Perhaps there is a better way to give them their opportunity to heard. I'm just not sure how.
Is tax fraud a reason someone should be disqualified from office or impeached?
Or is that only true if its a politicians kid?

 
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It's ridiculous. I wouldn't have a problem with a Jared and Ivanka being investigated by a special counsel. I don't have any special animus towards Hunter Biden. I think even some of his defenders here have call Hunter and the Kushners grifters.

If there was a special counsel, I would probably have a problem with months and months of TERB member's endless interpretation of events. Lol.
I'm not sure that I follow this. Why would you have a problem with what TERB members say - specifically on this topic?

The Kushners are grifters and got massive deals from unsavoury people like MBS by trading on their connection to Trump, in the same way Hunter traded on his connection to Joe.

OTOH, I don't think the Kushners broke any laws. They're just opportunists and well connected.
 

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What's the point. You never read the proof anyway----LOL
MITCHY, this is why you really need to look at other media sources HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Man, this shit works better than Viagra for a woody

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But those aren't proof, Mitch. Those are usually 3rd hand hearsay from disgraced maybe-sources. Like that 3rd hand hearsay from the Ukrainian oligarch guy who's hiding out from an Interpol warrant and probably had his partner murdered.

You need first hand evidence and it helps if the informant isn't a notorious fraud who would say anything if he could profit by it.
Does that put Florida man at risk of being sued for submitting those accusations as if they were fact to congress?

Isn't it possible the five years of investigation weren't robust and lacked probity? It would be a good point, but it doesn't exactly contradict the special treatment argument. Some people have accused the DOJ of trying to run out the clock (statue of limitations).

As mitch has repeatedly stated, we know there were crimes. That's the backdrop of the plea deal.
So you can't name another non politician who has ever been subject to as long and detailed an congressional investigation, can you?
 

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I don't think it will be that easy for Trump to win. If we have an economic soft-landing, Biden will be tough to beat.

Trump's strategy that he will not be able adjust boxes him into winning a few contested states by slim margins. He's not all that popular with suburban women and that's a big problem. Those are the numbers.
Well, that's how US politics works.

Trump's problem in 2020 was that the novelty factor he rode in on in 2016 had evaporated by 2020. In 2016, he was a "brilliant outsider businessman who was going to use NYC savvy to re write the rules in DC."

In 2020, he was just a fat, senile, lowbrow slob who danced to "Macho Man" in front of audiences who appeared to be drawn from every trailer park in the rural USA. Now that didn't lose him the red states, because those folks would vote for an orangutan if it ran on the GOP ticket. But the swing states had had enough.

In 2024, he's a fat, senile, lowbrow slob who's been indicted numerous times and lost a civil rape trial and tried to start an insurrection when he lost in 2020. That's not tough to beat in the swing states at all. So unless the economy implodes badly, it's hard to see how Biden will not win again.

And it Biden has a coronary or a stroke, that's an excuse to parachute Newsom in and win by an even larger margin.
 
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I'm not sure that I follow this. Why would you have a problem with what TERB members say - specifically on this topic?
It's a joke. Lol is a generally recognized tip-off of a joke.

However to answer your question, haven't you noticed that members of all stripes give their interpretations of events ad-nauseam? Most of the time they are merely mimicking something they heard in media or from a politician without much insight.
 
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mandrill

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Does that put Florida man at risk of being sued for submitting those accusations as if they were fact to congress?
I assume he has complete legal immunity for statements to congress.
 

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It's a joke. Lol is a generally recognized tip-off of a joke.

However to answer your question, haven't you noticed that members of all stripes give their interpretations of events ad-nauseam. Most of the time they are merely mimicking something they heard in media or from a politician without much insight.
Sure. But on the topic of Javanka, there isn't much divergence on the facts, is there?

Javanka went to China and Saudi with Old Trump and came back far richer. They were given lavish deals. And it all happened pretty quickly. What's your version of those facts?
 

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In the case of Biden, the repugs have no strong opponent to actually beat him.
I think you are projecting your bias. I doubt you have listened to the Republican candidates beyond Trump and understood how they have been successful politicians in their own States.

It's kind of like some here who keep telling us that Americans love Biden's legislation. That's why we have elections so we can put aside the noise and determine a course for two/four years.
 
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Sure. But on the topic of Javanka, there isn't much divergence on the facts, is there?

Javanka went to China and Saudi with Old Trump and came back far richer. They were given lavish deals. And it all happened pretty quickly. What's your version of those facts?
I have basically already said I concur.
 
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