Hunter Biden heading for a trial

[dirtydaveiii]

Mitch would never do that. He is secretly betrothed to Marje Green.

I would say he's more of a Bruce Jenner guy

 

[mandrill]

Last year, the GOP wanted a special counsel, but certainly not Weiss!!

They specifically asked for Weiss.

 

[mandrill]

It's kind of like the round and round in this thread above over whether Joe Biden is popular. A member might have very strong opinions on some things, but that doesn't make tangible evidence. In this case, there is currently no special committee investigating Hunter Biden.

The Jim Jordan-led Weaponization of the the Federal Government subcommittee is dealing with the censorship and suppression of conservative views in social media and elsewhere among other things unrelated to Hunter Biden. The suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story in 2020 is just one part of the committee's subjects. Remember we were debating journalist Matt Taibbi's testimony to the subcommittee that he was visited by IRS agents.

Investigating suppression of the laptop story by social media in 2020 has been incidental to Hunter's tax issues. The laptop and the contents itself are not being investigated by the Jordan subcommittee.

The whistleblowers (yeah, that nuisance to whatever arguments some here are making) testified to the House Oversight Committee which is a decades old committee. The House Oversight Committee speaking with Federal whistleblowers in not outside protocol.

I will have to say like I said to Frank......if you choose your words poorly and/or make a point that doesn't really land correctly, there is no dishonor by simply saying.........Okay, there was no special House committee created to investigate Hunter, but Republican Congressmen are publicly talking about Hunter Biden's legal case far too much and making specious accusations.

To refresh your memory these were your words regarding the Hunter Biden legal situation:

Oh I'm sorry. It's not a special committee to whine and rant about Hunter Biden. It's a special committee to whine and rant about the bullshit nonsense that the Hunter Biden laptop story was suppressed. Starring Matt Taibbi.

Where is Matt now btw? Wasn't he in some sort of "career tailspin"?

Anyway, it's all spin and rant to try and make the Dems look bad with no substance. Just like Hillary's emails and Benghazi. It's what the GOP does to feed the Outrage People.

 

[WyattEarp]

Oh I'm sorry. It's not a special committee to whine and rant about Hunter Biden. It's a special committee to whine and rant about the bullshit nonsense that the Hunter Biden laptop story was suppressed. Starring Matt Taibbi.

Where is Matt now btw? Wasn't he in some sort of "career tailspin"?

Anyway, it's all spin and rant to try and make the Dems look bad with no substance. Just like Hillary's emails and Benghazi. It's what the GOP does to feed the Outrage People.

Yes

 

[Dutch Oven]

Anyway, it's all spin and rant to try and make the Dems look bad with no substance. Just like Hillary's emails

Which, while clearly unlawful and apparently unprecedented, didn't warrant any charges, unlike Trumps legitimately debateable possession of government documents post Presidency.

and Benghazi. It's what the GOP does to feed the Outrage People.

Just some diplomatic personnel, including an Ambassador, murdered on foreign soil and some administration officials lying about what happened and what they did to protect them. Nothing to see there. Why even investigate?

 

[Frankfooter]

I will have to say like I said to Frank......if you choose your words poorly and/or make a point that doesn't really land correctly, there is no dishonor by simply saying.........Okay, there was no special House committee created to investigate Hunter, but Republican Congressmen are publicly talking about Hunter Biden's legal case far too much and making specious accusations.

To refresh your memory these were your words regarding the Hunter Biden legal situation:

You still haven't answered, has there ever been another congressional investigation into a private citizen that has lasted 5 years?
Nor will you ever answer why you think the tax charges against Hunter Biden, who has never held office, are somehow more offensive than the tax and fraud charges against trump.

All you're doing here is confirming that this is a partisan attack and you support partisan attacks, not an independent judiciary.
Attempts to win arguments by being pedantic don't make your case any stronger.

 

[WyattEarp]

Each poll is slightly different and most give Biden a slight lead. The Red states and the rural areas in most states vote GOP. Cities vote Dem. So the election is usually close, regardless of the qualities of the candidate.

Biden won by a couple of % points in 2020. It translated into a significant EC edge because that's how US politics works.

If you knew anything about US politics, you would understand this. But more knowledgeable people have to "help" you with even basic information.

If you say Joe Biden was much more popular than Donald Trump in 2020, there is nothing to disagree with.

It's 2023 and Biden has been President for two and half years. As I said, some people here can have a strong opinion that Joe Biden is popular at this point in time. There is no tangible evidence that is the case. Objective popularity has nothing to do with relative comparisons to Trump.

I don't think you have made any point here other than your post ends with another irrelevant insult.

 

[mandrill]

If you say Joe Biden was much more popular than Donald Trump in 2020, there is nothing to disagree with.

It's 2023 and Biden has been President for two and half years. As I said, some people here can have a strong opinion that Joe Biden is popular at this point in time. There is no tangible evidence that is the case. Objective popularity has nothing to do with relative comparisons to Trump.

I don't think you have made any point here other than your post ends with another irrelevant insult.

I haven't noticed much in the way of comment that Biden is popular, but perhaps I simply don't take much note of those posts. Biden seems effective, despite his age and will likely beat Trump in 2024.

 

[Frankfooter]

If you say Joe Biden was much more popular than Donald Trump in 2020, there is nothing to disagree with.

It's 2023 and Biden has been President for two and half years. As I said, some people here can have a strong opinion that Joe Biden is popular at this point in time. There is no tangible evidence that is the case. Objective popularity has nothing to do with relative comparisons to Trump.

I don't think you have made any point here other than your post ends with another irrelevant insult.

Why should anyone even worry about polls this far away from an election?
Trump will spend the next year in court or jail, check his numbers after that.

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote

this is what's supposed to be coming out later today.
RICO...

 

[mandrill]

Which, while clearly unlawful and apparently unprecedented, didn't warrant any charges, unlike Trumps legitimately debateable possession of government documents post Presidency.

Just some diplomatic personnel, including an Ambassador, murdered on foreign soil and some administration officials lying about what happened and what they did to protect them. Nothing to see there. Why even investigate?

Sometimes shit just happens, Dutch. It's not always Hillary's fault. Or Hunter Biden's.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Sometimes shit just happens, Dutch. It's not always Hillary's fault. Or Hunter Biden's.

More often, people cause shit to happen. There are not so many accidents as people claim.

 

[WyattEarp]

Sometimes shit just happens, Dutch. It's not always Hillary's fault. Or Hunter Biden's.

The decision to not rescue the U.S. Ambassador and others in Benghazi was neither criminal nor in my opinion impeachable (Secretary of State). It's just curious that the ranks closed and no one really said who ultimately made the decision. President Obama never said he made the decision. The buck stopped on his desk.

Taking responsibility for one's decisions in matters of importance is an important tenet of the military and ideally the government. Congress in their oversight role had the right to know who made the decision to abandon the U.S. Ambassador in Libya. There could be reasons, but who and how the decision was made is important information and certainly within Congress' purview.

"What difference does it make!" was probably a flippant answer to a serious matter of protecting American diplomats abroad. And certainly the Republican House opposition overdramatized the event, but it was very bad day for the United States.

 

[mandrill]

GOP releases transcript from FBI agent involved in Hunter Biden investigation (msn.com)

 

[mandrill]

More often, people cause shit to happen. There are not so many accidents as people claim.

 

[Dutch Oven]

I might have thought that the characteristic of authoritarianism went hand in hand with a concept of personal responsibility, but the more that I exchange with you, the more I am convinced the opposite is true. It seems that a society of authoritarians don't have a strong concept of personal responsiblity. After all, they are only following orders!

 

[Frankfooter]

GOP releases transcript from FBI agent involved in Hunter Biden investigation (msn.com)

Its a scandal that the FBI agent wasn't allowed to do a 'voluntary' interview with HB because they didn't check with their higher ups about the protocol for someone under secret service protection?
Even at best HB would have likely just said no to them anyways.

 

[mandrill]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1691230966272888832

 

[Frankfooter]

Even Dersh admits that Garland broke the law, by appointing Weiss, as Special counsel!!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1691267214060527616

 

[Frankfooter]

Any charges for Hunter yet?

Guess the dems can just get things done.

Who was charged?
Here's a look at who was charged in Monday's indictment in Fulton County.
Former President Donald Trump faces 13 charges.
Rudy Giuliani The former Trump lawyer who pushed unproven claims of election fraud and pressured state officials, faces 13 charges.
Mark Meadows Trump's former White House chief of staff, faces two charges.
John Eastman A lawyer who pushed false claims of election fraud and presented Trump with the idea that the vice president could reject the results faces, nine charges.
Kenneth Chesebro A pro-Trump lawyer who was involved in arranging alternative electors who would back Trump in states he lost, faces seven charges.
Jeffrey Clark A former top Trump administration Justice Department official, faces two charges.
Jenna Ellis A Trump campaign lawyer, faces two charges
Robert Cheeley A Georgia lawyer who pushed claims of fraud in the state, faces 10 charges.
Mike Roman A Trump campaign official, faces seven charges.
David Shafer Chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, faces eight charges.
Shawn Still A fake elector, faces seven charges.
Stephen Lee A pastor who is accused of intimidating election workers, faces five charges.
Harrison Floyd Leader of the group Black Voices for Trump, faces three charges.
Trevian Kutti A publicist connected to efforts to intimidate election workers, faces three charges.
Sidney Powell A lawyer who led efforts to push election fraud claims and drew backlash from White House lawyers, faces seven charges.
Cathy Latham A fake GOP elector from Coffee County, Ga., faces 11 charges.
Scott Hall faces six charges
Misty Hampton An elections supervisor in Coffee County, faces six charges.
Ray Smith An attorney

 

[Valcazar]

I am not even convinced there will be a Biden-Trump rematch next year.

It's still the most likely possibility, but it certainly isn't carved in stone.