Hunter Biden heading for a trial
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Oh I'm sorry. It's not a special committee to whine and rant about Hunter Biden. It's a special committee to whine and rant about the bullshit nonsense that the Hunter Biden laptop story was suppressed. Starring Matt Taibbi.
Where is Matt now btw? Wasn't he in some sort of "career tailspin"?
Anyway, it's all spin and rant to try and make the Dems look bad with no substance. Just like Hillary's emails and Benghazi. It's what the GOP does to feed the Outrage People.
Which, while clearly unlawful and apparently unprecedented, didn't warrant any charges, unlike Trumps legitimately debateable possession of government documents post Presidency.
Just some diplomatic personnel, including an Ambassador, murdered on foreign soil and some administration officials lying about what happened and what they did to protect them. Nothing to see there. Why even investigate?
You still haven't answered, has there ever been another congressional investigation into a private citizen that has lasted 5 years?
Nor will you ever answer why you think the tax charges against Hunter Biden, who has never held office, are somehow more offensive than the tax and fraud charges against trump.
All you're doing here is confirming that this is a partisan attack and you support partisan attacks, not an independent judiciary.
Attempts to win arguments by being pedantic don't make your case any stronger.
If you say Joe Biden was much more popular than Donald Trump in 2020, there is nothing to disagree with.
It's 2023 and Biden has been President for two and half years. As I said, some people here can have a strong opinion that Joe Biden is popular at this point in time. There is no tangible evidence that is the case. Objective popularity has nothing to do with relative comparisons to Trump.
I don't think you have made any point here other than your post ends with another irrelevant insult.
I haven't noticed much in the way of comment that Biden is popular, but perhaps I simply don't take much note of those posts. Biden seems effective, despite his age and will likely beat Trump in 2024.
Why should anyone even worry about polls this far away from an election?
Trump will spend the next year in court or jail, check his numbers after that.
this is what's supposed to be coming out later today.
RICO...
Sometimes shit just happens, Dutch. It's not always Hillary's fault. Or Hunter Biden's.
More often, people cause shit to happen. There are not so many accidents as people claim.
The decision to not rescue the U.S. Ambassador and others in Benghazi was neither criminal nor in my opinion impeachable (Secretary of State). It's just curious that the ranks closed and no one really said who ultimately made the decision. President Obama never said he made the decision. The buck stopped on his desk.
Taking responsibility for one's decisions in matters of importance is an important tenet of the military and ideally the government. Congress in their oversight role had the right to know who made the decision to abandon the U.S. Ambassador in Libya. There could be reasons, but who and how the decision was made is important information and certainly within Congress' purview.
"What difference does it make!" was probably a flippant answer to a serious matter of protecting American diplomats abroad. And certainly the Republican House opposition overdramatized the event, but it was very bad day for the United States.
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I might have thought that the characteristic of authoritarianism went hand in hand with a concept of personal responsibility, but the more that I exchange with you, the more I am convinced the opposite is true. It seems that a society of authoritarians don't have a strong concept of personal responsiblity. After all, they are only following orders!
Its a scandal that the FBI agent wasn't allowed to do a 'voluntary' interview with HB because they didn't check with their higher ups about the protocol for someone under secret service protection?
Even at best HB would have likely just said no to them anyways.
Any charges for Hunter yet?
Guess the dems can just get things done.
Who was charged?
Here's a look at who was charged in Monday's indictment in Fulton County.
Former President Donald Trump faces 13 charges.
Rudy Giuliani The former Trump lawyer who pushed unproven claims of election fraud and pressured state officials, faces 13 charges.
Mark Meadows Trump's former White House chief of staff, faces two charges.
John Eastman A lawyer who pushed false claims of election fraud and presented Trump with the idea that the vice president could reject the results faces, nine charges.
Kenneth Chesebro A pro-Trump lawyer who was involved in arranging alternative electors who would back Trump in states he lost, faces seven charges.
Jeffrey Clark A former top Trump administration Justice Department official, faces two charges.
Jenna Ellis A Trump campaign lawyer, faces two charges
Robert Cheeley A Georgia lawyer who pushed claims of fraud in the state, faces 10 charges.
Mike Roman A Trump campaign official, faces seven charges.
David Shafer Chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, faces eight charges.
Shawn Still A fake elector, faces seven charges.
Stephen Lee A pastor who is accused of intimidating election workers, faces five charges.
Harrison Floyd Leader of the group Black Voices for Trump, faces three charges.
Trevian Kutti A publicist connected to efforts to intimidate election workers, faces three charges.
Sidney Powell A lawyer who led efforts to push election fraud claims and drew backlash from White House lawyers, faces seven charges.
Cathy Latham A fake GOP elector from Coffee County, Ga., faces 11 charges.
Scott Hall faces six charges
Misty Hampton An elections supervisor in Coffee County, faces six charges.
Ray Smith An attorney
Guess the dems can just get things done.
Who was charged?
Here's a look at who was charged in Monday's indictment in Fulton County.
Former President Donald Trump faces 13 charges.
Rudy Giuliani The former Trump lawyer who pushed unproven claims of election fraud and pressured state officials, faces 13 charges.
Mark Meadows Trump's former White House chief of staff, faces two charges.
John Eastman A lawyer who pushed false claims of election fraud and presented Trump with the idea that the vice president could reject the results faces, nine charges.
Kenneth Chesebro A pro-Trump lawyer who was involved in arranging alternative electors who would back Trump in states he lost, faces seven charges.
Jeffrey Clark A former top Trump administration Justice Department official, faces two charges.
Jenna Ellis A Trump campaign lawyer, faces two charges
Robert Cheeley A Georgia lawyer who pushed claims of fraud in the state, faces 10 charges.
Mike Roman A Trump campaign official, faces seven charges.
David Shafer Chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, faces eight charges.
Shawn Still A fake elector, faces seven charges.
Stephen Lee A pastor who is accused of intimidating election workers, faces five charges.
Harrison Floyd Leader of the group Black Voices for Trump, faces three charges.
Trevian Kutti A publicist connected to efforts to intimidate election workers, faces three charges.
Sidney Powell A lawyer who led efforts to push election fraud claims and drew backlash from White House lawyers, faces seven charges.
Cathy Latham A fake GOP elector from Coffee County, Ga., faces 11 charges.
Scott Hall faces six charges
Misty Hampton An elections supervisor in Coffee County, faces six charges.
Ray Smith An attorney
It's still the most likely possibility, but it certainly isn't carved in stone.
