Leafs 2023-2024 Thread

tml

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I wonder how much input Keefe had in the new members of the coaching staff. One of them may be his future replacement.
 
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should we give up Nylander to get Erik Karlsson ?
That would give them Rielly, Klingberg, and Karlsson. 3 D with offense but no defense. This may work.
 

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According to capfriendly the Leafs are still $2M over the cap.

I'd imagine they will wait through training camp to see if anybody else gets injured and goes on LTIR. I think you can practically put up to 3 on LTIR before it becomes an issue in terms of being able to dress 20 players, as LTIR players count against the active roster max of 23 (I stand to be corrected on this last point)

Calle Jarnkrok seems like a candidate to be moved otherwise (2.1 million)
 

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The Leafs "LTIR" assessment for Murray was mutually beneficial for both parties. Murray will just grin and go along with this "assessment" as I am sure the Leafs threatened Murray and his agent with a buyout.


If the Leafs had bought out Murray they would have had to absorb a cap hit of about $0.8m this year -- and being this tight against the cap, they did not want to do this.

Matt Murray is owed $8.0 million this year as his 4 year contract was backloaded. By avoiding the buyout, he avoids losing $2.7M of cash. So he accepts the LTIR plan as well.

Let's be honest here - Murray may have liked the opportunity to prove himself again this year. But it would have likely failed, and it is highly uncertain whether he will ever get NHL contracts totaling $2.7 million again.
 

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Karlsson to Pens completed. Lots of other so-so contracts moved in a 3 way deal with Montreal and San Jose to get it completed (Jeff Petry, Mike .Hoffman, Mikael Granlund).

Sharks get a top 10 protected 1st from Pens and only retain 15% of Karlsson's contract.
Montreal essentially gets a second round pick for picking up about $2m of contracts.
Pens get the best player in the deal and get rid of middling contracts which allow them to only have to take 15% of Karlsson. Have to worry about 2026 and 2027 however.

Probably a good move for all team. If Pens are intent on winning now this is about the best they can do. But it's likely going to be some rebuild times there within a few years with nothing young to start with,.
 
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I'm surprised the Pens gave up so little of value to get him.
They did get hit with a $10 million a year salary for the next 4 years. As impressive of a season Karllson had last year offensively, he is 33 and is not getting younger. I do not think he will come close to the numbers he did last season for the rest of his career.

The pens are an aging team (read a site where they are the oldest on average) and will have to re-sign or replace Crosby and Malkin, who are not the players they once were.

If all goes according to script, I imagine Dubas will sign them to high paid contracts and hand cuff the franchise from getting over the hump like he did to the Leafs.

To me, this was a bad deal for Pittsburgh.
 
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They did get hit with a $10 million a year salary for the next 4 years. As impressive of a season Karllson had last year offensively, he is 33 and is not getting younger. I do not think he will come close to the numbers he did last season for the rest of his career.

The pens are an aging team (read a site where they are the oldest on average) and will have to re-sign or replace Crosby and Malkin, who are not the players they once were.

If all goes according to script, I imagine Dubas will sign them to high paid contracts and hand cuff the franchise from getting over the hump like he did to the Leafs.

To me, this was a bad deal for Pittsburgh.
Dubas won't do anything the owners won't let him do.
 
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Aren't Mario (and Sid?) part of the ownership?
The Fenway Sports Group purchased a controlling share in the Penguins about a year or two ago. Mario remains involved, but is not majority owner.
 
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