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Blade

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Yes, but Marner totally disappeared in round 2 against Florida. Also, if I'm not mistaken, Marner has always been a poor playoff performer in previous yrs, with the Leafs!!
The playoffs are about simplifying your game since time and space are non existent and you need to forget the highlight reel plays.

Marner has a difficult time adjusting his style of play and too often turned the puck over in the playoffs trying the fancy play.

Watching the final 4 in the playoffs the teams play a simpler game. Come through the neutral zone, if no plays are avaialble dump it in and get a forecheck going. The Leafs, and players like Marner, love the possession game and don't adjust to dump and chase when required. Hence the puck is turned over and the play is coming back at us, putting more pressure on our overmatched D core.

And Nylander.....only turns it on when he manages to find open ice, which is rare in the playoffs. The rest of the game he is a passenger doing high speed fly-bys

It seems to me a serious cup contender has a balance of a few factors such as skill, grit, work ethic, solid D, solid goaltending. If you have too much of one at the sacrifice of other elements it is difficult to be serious contender. The Leafs : excess in the skill department, lacking in the grit and solid D. Solution : use your excess to address your weaknesses, balance out your team and increase your ability to be a serious contender.

Think about what could be done with Nylander's upcoming cap hit, how that money could be better spent to produce a team that is more playoff ready.

Just my 2 cents from a beer leaguer/ arm chair observer.
 
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And Nylander.....only turns it on when he manages to find open ice, which is rare in the playoffs. The rest of the game he is a passenger doing high speed fly-bys

Think about what could be done with Nylander's upcoming cap hit, how that money could be better spent to produce a team that is more playoff ready.
Thanks. Never really noticed these nuanced aspects of Slick Willy's game before.
 

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The playoffs are about simplifying your game since time and space are non existent and you need to forget the highlight reel plays.

Marner has a difficult time adjusting his style of play and too often turned the puck over in the playoffs trying the fancy play.
In the Montreal series, the Habs kept hitting Marner and put Danault on Matthews and that neutralized the Leaf offense.
 

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In the Montreal series, the Habs kept hitting Marner and put Danault on Matthews and that neutralized the Leaf offense.
‘Hitting is a category in the analytic department that I find very misleading. A Marner or Rielly hit vs a Schenn or Trouba hit represents different impact on the extreme ends. No one on the other team is weary much of a big hit when Marner or Rielly (used as an examples here) is on the ice, but you bet that they make sure to keep their heads up when big hitters like Trouba or Schenn is there.

The hardest hit that Matthews took was from Trouba when he was with the Jets and you bet that he would make sure that it won’t happen again when playing against Trouba. The two recent Leafs that other teams watch out for were Muzzin and Schenn and they’re both gone. Reeves may be the hardest hitter on the Leafs barring other changes.

‘’The current Leaf defence is one of the softest and defensively weakest among legit contenders and I hope and expect Treliving to add more size and grit before the season starts.
 

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‘’The current Leaf defence is one of the softest and defensively weakest among legit contenders and I hope and expect Treliving to add more size and grit before the season starts.
He's retired now but when he was captain he would staple anyone to the boards if he (the opposing player) messes with one of his players. Plus, a very good D-man as well.
 

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He's retired now but when he was captain he would staple anyone to the boards if he (the opposing player) messes with one of his players. Plus, a very good D-man as well.
To whom are you referring? There is no D-man captain mentioned on this page.
 

Blade

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Thanks. Never really noticed these nuanced aspects of Slick Willy's game before.
Sensing some, or a lot, of sarcasm.

Just my opinion and not fact, it drives me crazy when the points stats are taken about with Willy. Just watch him, he never engages. I am convinced its just who he is ,....mega talented game breaker who just doesn't care and wants to be paid. If the worst team in the league, in the city where no one cares about hockey, offered him the money he is looking for, he would take it.
 

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Its below the threshold for counting against the salary cap if they dump him to the minors.
So no salary cap implications for a decent 3rd goalie I suppose.

One of the advances the Leafs have as a richer team is they can pay 3rd goalies in full NHL Money rather than offering them 2 way contracts. Obviously that was attractive to Jones since nobody viewed him as a NHL starter or backup at this point, and probably not many teams offered him a fully guaranteed NHL contract.
 

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Its below the threshold for counting against the salary cap if they dump him to the minors.
So no salary cap implications for a decent 3rd goalie I suppose.

One of the advances the Leafs have as a richer team is they can pay 3rd goalies in full NHL Money rather than offering them 2 way contracts. Obviously that was attractive to Jones since nobody viewed him as a NHL starter or backup at this point, and probably not many teams offered him a fully guaranteed NHL contract.
I heard he can operate a zambonie as well.
 
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tml

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Its below the threshold for counting against the salary cap if they dump him to the minors.
So no salary cap implications for a decent 3rd goalie I suppose.

One of the advances the Leafs have as a richer team is they can pay 3rd goalies in full NHL Money rather than offering them 2 way contracts. Obviously that was attractive to Jones since nobody viewed him as a NHL starter or backup at this point, and probably not many teams offered him a fully guaranteed NHL contract.
Wow!!! Was Jones that desperate for a contract?
 

superstar_88

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Wow!!! Was Jones that desperate for a contract?
He's guaranteed to play some Leaf games. Injuries happen. Especially to goalies. Woll last year was at best 3rd to start the season. He played in the playoffs.
 

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Wow!!! Was Jones that desperate for a contract?
Jones and Woll would both need to clear waivers to be sent down to the Marlies this year.
Jones started 42 games for the Kraken last year and his save percentage was in the .886 range.
The theory is that Jones hasn't't played well enough to be concerned about losing him on waivers so he's a safe depth contract.
 
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Jones and Woll would both need to clear waivers to be sent down to the Marlies this year.
Jones started 42 games for the Kraken last year and his save percentage was in the .886 range.
The theory is that Jones hasn't't played well enough to be concerned about losing him on waivers so he's a safe depth contract.
.886??????? Memories of the 1980's.
 
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