Tough Justin

DinkleMouse

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That's your opinion...as I said. JT needs to go. I hope the Libs can come up with somebody that could reverse what he has done...he hasn't done anything significant he could be proud of...He's almost bringing Canadian economy to it's knees. And again as I said. I don't expect pee pee to win. not every conservative out there trusts him. But they're tired of JT and most people who are in that predicament would swing to the unknown over a known incompetent "clusterfuck" (your term)...
It's not my opinion that the economy is doing better than most people expected. It's established fact. By every metric the Canadian economy is "ok", but projected to do worse. Those are facts.

That PP will do worse is an opinion, but I've never sold it as anything but opinion, so I'm not sure what your point is.

Also largely agreeing with me but doing do aggressively is exactly why I call you a troll. Usually people don't call others out and then basically agree with still do it an aggressive way.

You're very odd. And yes, that's an opinion.
 
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richaceg

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It's not my opinion that the economy is doing better than most people expected. It's established fact. By every metric the Canadian economy is "ok", but projected to do worse. Those are facts.

That PP will do worse is an opinion, but I've never sold it as anything but opinion, so I'm not sure what your point is.

Also largely agreeing with me but doing do aggressively is exactly why I call you a troll. Usually people don't call others out and then basically agree with still do it an aggressive way.

You're very odd. And yes, that's an opinion.
You follow Peepee and your opinion is he will do worst than JT....but would still take JT over peepee...who in your own words did a lot of shenanigans...with all the lists you said about JT, would you consider him the worst PM Canada ever had?
 

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You follow Peepee and your opinion is he will do worst than JT....but would still take JT over peepee...who in your own words did a lot of shenanigans...
If in my opinion he would do worse than JT, which is a correct assertion regarding my opinion, of course I'd pick JT over him. Seems redundant to add. What point do you think you're making with that?

with all the lists you said about JT, would you consider him the worst PM Canada ever had?
Lol No, people saying he's the worst PM are just spouting rhetoric, or they haven't actually studied Canadian history. In their lifetime maybe he's the worst. But no actual scholar of Canadian history puts him last. Let's not put on rose coloured glasses here. Canada has had a lot of terrible leaders and unless you're a COVID clown that rants about tyranny and talks about needing to vote him out because he's a dictator (which, c'mon, anyone who doesn't see the stupidity of saying they want to "vote out" a "dictator" shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone), there's no way he's been our worst. Not even close. John Turner, Joe Clarke, and Robert Borden were all worse. JT I'd put bottom half. Maybe bottom 3rd if we don't count the likes of Campbell, Meighan and Tupper as "real" PMs.

As I said with that list of JT nonsense, none of it has caused long-term, sustained damage. He's a clown. It's a big list, and a few of the items are pretty terrible, but the bulk of it is just embarrassment. He needs to go, but not at any cost. You don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Give me a viable better option and I'll vote for it. But that's not PP.

I'm not comparing PP and Hitler, but I'll illustrate my point by using Hitler as an example and saying that if I had been living in the Weimar Republic in the 30s, I would've wanted Kurt von Schleicher gone. He definitely needed to go. But I wouldn't have voted for Hitler to make that happen.
 

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He's a candidate for office, and he's useless at it. It's not complicated. What's his view on immigration? Trudeau sucks at it. Trade? Trudeau sucks. International relations? Trudeau sucks. Education? Trudeau sucks. The military? Trudeau sucks. Labour relations? Trudeau sucks.

Plus he does have a job as an MP. Has he ever once stood up in the House and proposed a solution? Sort of, if you count interfering with an independent agency a solution: fire the BoC chairman. Otherwise, all he has done is whine and moan.

And again, Trudeau is unfit to be PM. But so far PP has only showed that he's weak, sensitive, and a whiner with questionable judgement. Him and Trudeau are both cow patties sitting in the road. I don't see him as better, and I think based on some of the shit he's said that he's going to be worse.

I didn't mind O'Toole. If they had elected Chong party leader I would but a CPC membership. But PP? If the vote was today I'd go get drunk instead. I don't want either of these shit birds.
I've seen numerous interviews and videos where he is providing solutions.
You need to dig a little deeper.
He did a lengthy interview on CTV where he mentions what he would do.
You might be able to view it on their website?
 

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I've seen numerous interviews and videos where he is providing solutions.
You need to dig a little deeper.
He did a lengthy interview on CTV where he mentions what he would do.
You might be able to view it on their website?
Solutions like "end the Trudeau carbon tax that is placing undo financial burden on low-income families" and thereby take money out of their pockets? Like "hold a public enquiry into the election interference Trudeau let happen so we can find out how deep things go" and expose it
our intelligence apparatus so that future election interference is easier? Solutions like "cut all Trudeau's tax hikes and get rid of the debt" without any word on how he's doing to pay down debt if he cuts taxes? Solutions like "hedge inflation by undoing Trudeau's restrictions on crypto and investing in it" when crypto is down to a fraction of the it was when he made those comments? Solutions like "reverse Trudeau's government enlargement" by creating gatekeeping snitch lines which will require a whole new government department to oversee, not to mention he already created a larger shadow cabinet then the actually government's cabinet? Solutions like "do what Trudeau couldn't and make the provinces accept each other's healthcare accreditations" even though he's got no authority to go do? Solutions like "Get rid of Trudeau's friends in he Bank of Canada to fix inflation" despite the fact that corporate greed has been a massive driver of inflation post-pandemic and he wants to many it easier for them to be greedy but also he's got no authority to interfere in the independent BoC boat?

Do these interviews have any substantive, real solutions, or are they the same virtue signaling "here's what Trudeau did and I'm going to do the opposite but I'm going to offer no explanation of how that fixes the problem I'm complaining about" that I've been talking about?

I'd love to see the debt reduced. How's he going to do that AND cut taxes? What services is he going to gouge? He said he'll ditch the carbon tax but still reduce emissions through technology, but won't say what those are or where they'll look like. He talks a lot about natural resources revenue, healthcare accreditations, the Bank of Canada, and education, none of which are in the federal government's purview to address.

Are you telling me he's actually said things of substance that he's actually able to do and has authority to do in these interviews?
 

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Oops with this disclosure of Pee Pee and his sleazy ways of doing some business:

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre stands by a decision to cover some $37,000 in legal fees of the whistleblower who spoke out about how Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown’s campaign broke election rules.

Brown was ousted from the high-profile leadership race in July of last year which saw the mayor and then-rival Poilievre square off in a war of words. The two long-time Conservative politicians traded blows in the media as each tried to position themselves as the heir to former leader Erin O’Toole.

But the spat would be short-lived as Brown was ejected from the race after the party said his campaign violated financial provisions of the Canada Elections Act – violations that were brought to light by whistleblower Debbie Jodoin, who had her legal fees covered by Poilievre’s campaign.

Poilievre confirmed that his campaign paid Jodoin’s legal fees, some $37,000 according to reports, and defended the move on Wednesday, calling Jodoin “a courageous whistleblower…who was speaking up about wrongdoing at great personal peril to herself.”

“And it is entirely appropriate to defend whistleblowers, and when I am prime minister we will defend all whistleblowers so…they can have the courage, but also the protection to speak out against wrongdoing without fear that they will be destroyed by legal intimidation coming from those with deep pockets,” Poilievre said at a press conference in Timmins.

The news followed accusations from the party that the Brown campaign used money orders to purchase memberships and allowed non-compliant membership sales through a portal.

According to a statement released on Jodoin’s behalf, Brown told her she could continue to remain a paid consultant at an unnamed company while volunteering for the campaign. Jodoin claimed Brown connected her to a third party to set this arrangement up, causing her to become “increasingly concerned.”

Brown’s campaign fought back against the allegations, accusing the party of “reprehensible, undemocratic behaviour.” Brown was also fined $100,000 by the CPC – the same amount each candidate was required to submit as a compliance deposit to enter the leadership race.

Insauga.com has reached out to Brown for comment but no response was immediately received.

But Brown wasn’t the only CPC leadership candidate fined by the party, as both Leslyn Lewis and Poilievre were also fined $50,000 for not attending the party’s third leadership debate.

And while Brown was unceremoniously exited from the CPC race last he would go on to an overwhelming win in Brampton’s municipal election, securing nearly 60 per cent of the vote.

A spokesperson for Brown previously told Insauga.com that the mayor “is entirely focused on Brampton and is no longer interested in the backroom games of the Conservative Party.”

 

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Oops with this disclosure of Pee Pee and his sleazy ways of doing some business:

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre stands by a decision to cover some $37,000 in legal fees of the whistleblower who spoke out about how Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown’s campaign broke election rules.

Brown was ousted from the high-profile leadership race in July of last year which saw the mayor and then-rival Poilievre square off in a war of words. The two long-time Conservative politicians traded blows in the media as each tried to position themselves as the heir to former leader Erin O’Toole.

But the spat would be short-lived as Brown was ejected from the race after the party said his campaign violated financial provisions of the Canada Elections Act – violations that were brought to light by whistleblower Debbie Jodoin, who had her legal fees covered by Poilievre’s campaign.

Poilievre confirmed that his campaign paid Jodoin’s legal fees, some $37,000 according to reports, and defended the move on Wednesday, calling Jodoin “a courageous whistleblower…who was speaking up about wrongdoing at great personal peril to herself.”

“And it is entirely appropriate to defend whistleblowers, and when I am prime minister we will defend all whistleblowers so…they can have the courage, but also the protection to speak out against wrongdoing without fear that they will be destroyed by legal intimidation coming from those with deep pockets,” Poilievre said at a press conference in Timmins.

The news followed accusations from the party that the Brown campaign used money orders to purchase memberships and allowed non-compliant membership sales through a portal.

According to a statement released on Jodoin’s behalf, Brown told her she could continue to remain a paid consultant at an unnamed company while volunteering for the campaign. Jodoin claimed Brown connected her to a third party to set this arrangement up, causing her to become “increasingly concerned.”

Brown’s campaign fought back against the allegations, accusing the party of “reprehensible, undemocratic behaviour.” Brown was also fined $100,000 by the CPC – the same amount each candidate was required to submit as a compliance deposit to enter the leadership race.

Insauga.com has reached out to Brown for comment but no response was immediately received.

But Brown wasn’t the only CPC leadership candidate fined by the party, as both Leslyn Lewis and Poilievre were also fined $50,000 for not attending the party’s third leadership debate.

And while Brown was unceremoniously exited from the CPC race last he would go on to an overwhelming win in Brampton’s municipal election, securing nearly 60 per cent of the vote.

A spokesperson for Brown previously told Insauga.com that the mayor “is entirely focused on Brampton and is no longer interested in the backroom games of the Conservative Party.”

People were warned about rump beforehand but still voted for him. But will they keep doing so?
PeePee is telling everyone that he'll do backroom deals to cheat and his foreign troll bots show that he is only interested in gaining power.

DoFo just lost two seats, conservatives should be worried all around.
 
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