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richaceg

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Here's a few. SNC election donations scandal, Aga Khan vacations scandal, SNC Justice Minister scandal, Indian vacation on taxpayer dollars with cultural appropriation/dancing like a clown in costume thrown in scandal, elbowgate, blackface, RCMP investigation interference, $6k/night hotel room, arrivecan cost fiasco.
Ok. given all the examples mentioned....what takes you to the conclusion pee pee would be worst?
 
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Ok. given all the examples mentioned....what takes you to the conclusion pee pee would be worst?
Because he's push American-style GOP politics and that has destroyed America and taken them to the brink of civil war.

He hasn't even got the job yet and he says he's going to commit a scandal on par with the Justice Minister interference scandal by wanting to interfere with the independent BoC because he claims they don't understand economics, but he himself pushed Bitcoin, which is now worth 25% of what it did when he pushed it. Still on the topic of economics, he wants to reverse a tax that results in low-income earners getting a net profit because he claims it causes low-income earners hardship.. He wants to expose the internal workings of our intelligence apparatus to everyone including groups working to subvert Canada, against the advice of the members of his own party who say it's a horribly idea. Like Trump, he's skirted supporting the most toxic segments of our society including pushing nonsense conspiracy theories to egg them on. Like Trump, he pushes misinformation and dismissed expert opinions as "gatekeeping", which if actually a form of gatekeeping because it's him claiming he has a secret knowledge others don't.

I could go on. But here's the thing: Justin Trudeau is a clown who, despite his scandals, has caused no real lasting damage to the Canada but is largely just an embarrassment. The only people who think otherwise are the COVID clowns, the "woke" haters, the anti-WEF conspiracy theorists, and the Poillievre/Trump/MAGA cultists. Pierre Poillievre has already done harm to Canada, though not real and lasting, but has the possibility to and things he's already said he would do (like exposing our intelligence apparatus) definitely have high risk to. Like at how Trump/MAGA cult members have tried to completely destroy democracy and install their king against the electorate. That's the road Poillievre has already started taking us down.

I'll take blackface dancing clown over actual threat to our democracy every day. But I'm hoping another option emerges.

I know from your post history you don't think so and you're right on board with what PP is selling, including the conspiracies. This entire post was a waste of time where you're concerned because you disagree with all that, you think Trudeau has given away our democracy and destroyed our economy and society. And the fact that Poillievre has fueled those views and has given your nonsense a legitimate voice is exactly what makes him worse and more dangerous than Trudeau. But I hope some people on the fence can still be swayed which is why I replied anyway.

I hope our checks and balances keep him at bay. But I don't think they will. Our system isn't strong enough for that. The PMO has far more power over Canadian affairs than the Office of the President has over US affairs. If PP wins, I think it spells disaster for Canada. Whereas Trudeau mostly spells embarrassment.
 
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Because he's push American-style GOP politics and that has destroyed America and taken them to the brink of civil war.

He hasn't even got the job yet and he says he's going to commit a scandal on par with the Justice Minister interference scandal by wanting to interfere with the independent BoC because he claims they don't understand economics, but he himself pushed Bitcoin, which is now worth 25% of what it did when he pushed it. Still on the topic of economics, he wants to reverse a tax that results in low-income earners getting a net profit because he claims it causes low-income earners hardship.. He wants to expose the internal workings of our intelligence apparatus to everyone including groups working to subvert Canada, against the advice of the members of his own party who say it's a horribly idea. Like Trump, he's skirted supporting the most toxic segments of our society including pushing nonsense conspiracy theories to egg them on. Like Trump, he pushes misinformation and dismissed expert opinions as "gatekeeping", which if actually a form of gatekeeping because it's him claiming he has a secret knowledge others don't.

I could go on. But here's the thing: Justin Trudeau is a clown who, despite his scandals, has caused no real lasting damage to the Canada but is largely just an embarrassment. The only people who think otherwise are the COVID clowns, the "woke" haters, the anti-WEF conspiracy theorists, and the Poillievre/Trump/MAGA cultists. Pierre Poillievre has already done harm to Canada, though not real and lasting, but has the possibility to and things he's already said he would do (like exposing our intelligence apparatus) definitely have high risk to. Like at how Trump/MAGA cult members have tried to completely destroy democracy and install their king against the electorate. That's the road Poillievre has already started taking us down.

I'll take blackface dancing clown over actual threat to our democracy every day. But I'm hoping another option emerges.

I know from your post history you don't think so and you're right on board with what PP is selling, including the conspiracies. This entire post was a waste of time where you're concerned because you disagree with all that, you think Trudeau has given away our democracy and destroyed our economy and society. And the fact that Poillievre has fueled those views and has given your nonsense a legitimate voice is exactly what makes him worse and more dangerous than Trudeau. But I hope some people on the fence can still be swayed which is why I replied anyway.

I hope our checks and balances keep him at bay. But I don't think they will. Our system isn't strong enough for that. The PMO has far more power over Canadian affairs than the Office of the President has over US affairs. If PP wins, I think it spells disaster for Canada. Whereas Trudeau mostly spells embarrassment.
I don't follow pee pee much and I don't expect him to win but I think it's time for Justin to go. Justin has donea lot of damage to Canada with his PC bullshit...Pee pee as of the moment is an unknown political entity that sells himself to get the conservative votes....and banking on the centrists to take him over JT...If you think I'm a right leaning individual, you are actually wrong...you can call me a troll but yeah...i'd troll anybody who acts like their side of the fence is clean and could do no wrong...
 
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I don't follow pee pee much and I don't expect him to win but I think it's time for Justin to go.
It is. And had Conservatives elected Charest or Chong or any other reasonable person as party leader, they would've gotten a real majority and not this sham "36% of the vote but plurality of the seats" nonsense we usually end up with. But instead they give us trash. My hope now is Trudeau or Singh (ideally both) step down and someone reasonable pops up, or it's going to be a tough election.

Justin has donea lot of damage to Canada with his PC bullshit...
Which is hardly irreversible.

Pee pee as of the moment is an unknown political entity that
You just said you don't follow him. Of course he's unknown to you. But he's not unknown to those of us who do follow him and politics, and he's an asshat of epic proportions that I believe wants to do real harm to the country. And unlike hurting people's feelings with "PC bullshit", once we've told the world how our intelligence apparatus operates as what techniques and tactics we use, we can never put that genie back in the bottle. That will be real, irreparable harm to our national security for decades to come. So you can tell me he's an unknown, but everyone who's even vaguely aware that politics exists in Canada has heard his views on wanting a full public enquiry. So in this area, he's really not an unknown.

you can call me a troll but yeah...i'd troll anybody who acts like their side of the fence is clean and could do no wrong...
I literally just have you a laundry list of shit Trudeau has done wrong, and asked "your side of the fence" (ie the "PP would be better than Trudeau" side) to say anything bad about PP to show they're objective and almost no one has done so. Which I hold up as yet more evidence that you're a troll.
 

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It is. And had Conservatives elected Charest or Chong or any other reasonable person as party leader, they would've gotten a real majority and not this sham "36% of the vote but plurality of the seats" nonsense we usually end up with. But instead they give us trash. My hope now is Trudeau or Singh (ideally both) step down and someone reasonable pops up, or it's going to be a tough election.



Which is hardly irreversible.



You just said you don't follow him. Of course he's unknown to you. But he's not unknown to those of us who do follow him and politics, and he's an asshat of epic proportions that I believe wants to do real harm to the country. And unlike hurting people's feelings with "PC bullshit", once we've told the world how our intelligence apparatus operates as what techniques and tactics we use, we can never put that genie back in the bottle. That will be real, irreparable harm to our national security for decades to come. So you can tell me he's an unknown, but everyone who's even vaguely aware that politics exists in Canada has heard his views on wanting a full public enquiry. So in this area, he's really not an unknown.


I literally just have you a laundry list of shit Trudeau has done wrong, and asked "your side of the fence" (ie the "PP would be better than Trudeau" side) to say anything bad about PP to show they're objective and almost no one has done so. Which I hold up as yet more evidence that you're a troll.
Pierre's the leader who's going to kick Justin's " "ass" next election!! Charest and Chong, are total losers!!
 

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Pierre's the leader who's going to kick Justin's " "ass" next election!! Charest and Chong, are total losers!!
Speaking of people who can't admit they side ever does anything wrong....

Must be heartbreaking now that your cult leader has been caught on tape admitting he's a traitor and a criminal. Even if PP wins, it'll be a poor consolation for Trump being convicted by his own unbiased words. Or is Trump also biased against Trump? 🤣
 

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I could go on. But here's the thing: Justin Trudeau is a clown who, despite his scandals, has caused no real lasting damage to the Canada but is largely just an embarrassment.
He did do long-lasting damage, that CERB sh*tshow cost this country hundreds of billions of dollars and was executed so poorly that it encouraged scammers. JT's heart was in the right place but he is incompetent.

With that said, I would still take JT over the toxic sludge that is PP and his crypto bro schemes.
 
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I don't follow pee pee much and I don't expect him to win but I think it's time for Justin to go. Justin has donea lot of damage to Canada with his PC bullshit...Pee pee as of the moment is an unknown political entity that sells himself to get the conservative votes....and banking on the centrists to take him over JT...If you think I'm a right leaning individual, you are actually wrong...you can call me a troll but yeah...i'd troll anybody who acts like their side of the fence is clean and could do no wrong...
But no one is saying that. They're saying Justin is a harmless, pose-y asshole and PeePee is a far more obnoxious and dangerous little corrupt slimebucket.
 

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He did do long-lasting damage, that CERB sh*tshow cost this country hundreds of billions of dollars and was executed so poorly that it encouraged scammers. JT's heart was in the right place but he is incompetent.

With that said, I would still take JT over the toxic sludge that is PP and his crypto bro schemes.
The economy is actually doing better than most people expected and better than many in the post-pandemic world. Future growth is expected to stall if nothing changes, but that's going to depend far more on what we do about it moving forward.

Ergo, I'd argue Trudeau's pandemic policies didn't cause lasting damage, especially given that our economy has always been balanced to not do "too well" to sit in that niche with our trading partners.
 

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It is. And had Conservatives elected Charest or Chong or any other reasonable person as party leader, they would've gotten a real majority and not this sham "36% of the vote but plurality of the seats" nonsense we usually end up with. But instead they give us trash. My hope now is Trudeau or Singh (ideally both) step down and someone reasonable pops up, or it's going to be a tough election.



Which is hardly irreversible.



You just said you don't follow him. Of course he's unknown to you. But he's not unknown to those of us who do follow him and politics, and he's an asshat of epic proportions that I believe wants to do real harm to the country. And unlike hurting people's feelings with "PC bullshit", once we've told the world how our intelligence apparatus operates as what techniques and tactics we use, we can never put that genie back in the bottle. That will be real, irreparable harm to our national security for decades to come. So you can tell me he's an unknown, but everyone who's even vaguely aware that politics exists in Canada has heard his views on wanting a full public enquiry. So in this area, he's really not an unknown.


I literally just have you a laundry list of shit Trudeau has done wrong, and asked "your side of the fence" (ie the "PP would be better than Trudeau" side) to say anything bad about PP to show they're objective and almost no one has done so. Which I hold up as yet more evidence that you're a troll.
That's your opinion...as I said. JT needs to go. I hope the Libs can come up with somebody that could reverse what he has done...he hasn't done anything significant he could be proud of...He's almost bringing Canadian economy to it's knees. And again as I said. I don't expect pee pee to win. not every conservative out there trusts him. But they're tired of JT and most people who are in that predicament would swing to the unknown over a known incompetent "clusterfuck" (your term)...
 
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