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shack

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You are entitled to your opinion; however, policy based on opinions like yours is why we have a constant and growing problem with human detritus shooting up the streets of Toronto.
So you seriously believe that if someone shoots a gun in public they should be stood up against a wall and executed?

FYI, I'm one of the biggest anti-gun advocates on TERB.

FYI #2, I didn't state an opinion. I was simply calling you out on your statement about executions.
 

Not getting younger

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Could see this coming a mile away.

Will say, back in the 1990s, the financial industry realized just how important the public trust is.

Incase some don’t know what that is. It is the trust the public has, in the “institution”. Be that government, law enforcement, the financial system. Pretty much anyone/anything that has power over the public.

it’s the be all, end all. Without it. Anarchy
/looks around.

In the 90s, a lot of changes started coming in with respect to oversight, compliance, penalties for those that “break the trust”…

Some may think change happens overnight, or expect things to just change with a snap of the fingers. Some others may not trust the SIU here. Cops often don’t………………….

Derek Chauvin
And our own.

However, if any one, thinks dealing with, de-escalating gang bangers, common thugs, spouses during domestics ( often highly volatile and dangerous) junkies, the mentally ill. Making life altering decisions in 0.005 seconds and being right, more often than wrong……. Is a piece of cake.

I hear Ontario is having a really hard time.
I wonder why..

And with respect to this specific incident. It’s not that it is a dog. It’s what that specific dog represents. And yeah, anyone that would grab a gun, go into the public prepared to use it, against anything…..deep dark cave for a long time…..

more so, if in uniform.
 
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So you seriously believe that if someone shoots a gun in public they should be stood up against a wall and executed?

FYI, I'm one of the biggest anti-gun advocates on TERB.

FYI #2, I didn't state an opinion. I was simply calling you out on your statement about executions.
In answer to your question, I do.
In rejoinder to your first statement; I am massively pro-gun. I am equally anti-criminal.
In rejoinder to you second statement; Yes, you did express an opinion by stating your position.
 

Not getting younger

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The Mirror lol...whats next, the National Enquirer
Not suggesting you’re wrong to consider the source. I do it all the time. :)

That doesn’t invalidate, the sentiment no matter the number. Think about what they do, how we use them. During working years they are not pets. They are not treated like pets, that would be a big mistake. Like us, they get injured, they get sick. And for a long time cast aside.


For what it’s worth, I’m a dog lover. These days have a breed of dog favoured by Leo and AF.Wickedly fast and strong, can leap over my head to pluck things out of the air. Wickedly smart too, he wasn’t a year old when I trained him how to let himself out of the house. And back in…

I think they deserve more than just being cast aside or worse.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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That dude is looking at serious charges.

Attempted murder on police officer(s), since he shot at the police.
Murder of a K9 (in the US thats a serious charge. Not sure about Canada though).
Possession of a gun.
Fleeing from police.
And probably a bunch of other charges as well.

Send him away for 20 years. Adios, bitch!!

EDIT: new law. Up to 5 years in prison: https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/quant...s-1.2485385?cache=bnbdbzprrissrh?clipId=89750
 

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That dude is looking at serious charges.

Attempted murder on police officer(s), since he shot at the police.
Murder of a K9 (in the US thats a serious charge. Not sure about Canada though).
Possession of a gun.
Fleeing from police.
And probably a bunch of other charges as well.

Send him away for 20 years. Adios, bitch!!

EDIT: new law. Up to 5 years in prison: https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/quanto-s-law-takes-effect-harsh-new-consequences-for-killing-police-dogs-1.2485385?cache=bnbdbzprrissrh?clipId=89750
Yeah there’s a number of firearm charges you’re missing. Sadly, I don’t have confidence many won’t be plea bargained. Assuming they get him.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Yeah there’s a number of firearm charges you’re missing. Sadly, I don’t have confidence many won’t be plea bargained. Assuming they get him
No plea bargain!

If I'm the judge I'm giving him:

  • 15 years for attempting to murder a cop
  • 5 years for killing K9
  • 3 years for possession of an illegal gun
  • 1 year for fleeing police

That adds up to 24 years (y)
 

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That dude is looking at serious charges.

Attempted murder on police officer(s), since he shot at the police.
Murder of a K9 (in the US thats a serious charge. Not sure about Canada though).
Possession of a gun.
Fleeing from police.
And probably a bunch of other charges as well.

Send him away for 20 years. Adios, bitch!!

EDIT: new law. Up to 5 years in prison: https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/quanto-s-law-takes-effect-harsh-new-consequences-for-killing-police-dogs-1.2485385?cache=bnbdbzprrissrh?clipId=89750
Apparently, this cocksucker was already wanted for second degree murder.
 
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Not getting younger

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No plea bargain!

If I'm the judge I'm giving him:

  • 15 years for attempting to murder a cop
  • 5 years for killing K9
  • 3 years for possession of an illegal gun
  • 1 year for fleeing police

That adds up to 24 years (y)
I’d love to see no pleas when the totality of the situation is considered. It will come with a significant cost. Trials vs cheap, speedy, convictions. That said. Good defence lawyers will get more expensive too. Might give pause to at least a few. Will mean likely some cases lost. Worth that price imo.

Not sure where I stand on mandatory minimums. Know I hate what the liberals did. Our system, even before too soft. Ditto bail. On the whole, like capital punishment, depending on some specifics and the totality. We are way too soft. And just like pre teens an teens they are entitled and it’s costing.

but. It will cost us, a lot of money………………….

Recidivism.
“Who knows”…here it’s bad, some places seems to have some better luck. These days, I would argue here anyways. Recidivism is so high, because we are too soft. Especially when it comes to violent crimes.

Capital punishment.
Bring it back. But, the totality needs to be weighed and a smoking gun. There is no doubt.none. In the slightest.

Drives me absolutely bat shit. When people like Bernardo,Pickton, Magnotta, some others.

I would bet money 25% those of you who read that. Can remember 4 victim names. Funny how we remember their names but not the victims….And for families, living through the trial, media attention up the wazoo, no closure for years and years. Every parole hearing their names are headlines and more

.50 cents in brass, powder and lead. Done.
 
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Here is my thoughts and I'm sure some people won't like it.
It was a dog.
Doesn't matter if it was a police dog or not.
The person who shot the dog is a piece of shit because of past crimes.
He will probably get more jail time for shooting a police dog than the careless dog owners whos dogs maul and seriously injury people get. Which is just about zero punishment.
I felt sad because it was a dog but will admit I laughed when I heard it referred to as Officer Bingo.
 

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Well, perhaps if more black people didn‘t raise their children in an environment that taught them to disrespect, disobey and kill the police in the name of “systemic racism” fewer black people would be shot by the police.

As for the fellow that shot the dog; anyone who discharges a weapon in public has shown a willingness to kill. They should be stood against a wall and shot because they are unfit to be in society and reforming them is a waste of scarce resources.
I was just reading in another thread that the amount of racism is decreasing. Thankfully there's people like this to fight for their asshole views.
 

Anbarandy

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Why not just hire students (part-time) and immigrants to do police work?
At a third of the pay, with no benefits, holidays etc.

Could hire 4 student immigrants on 1 cops salary.

Equals close to 25,000 student immigrant cops saturating the city and ridding Toronto of all crime like a super absorbent sponge sopping up liquid messes.
 
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