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Dragon77

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Bring back race based crime statistics
Bring back race statistics on pedophiles and mass school shootings across North America. Perhaps current data/evidence of all the pedophiles will support your theory (one race is worse) when it is common the whiter your skin the lighter the sentence and a slap on the wrist.
 
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Bring back race statistics on pedophiles and mass school shootings across North America. Perhaps current data/evidence of all the pedophiles will support your theory (one race is worse) when it is common the whiter your skin the lighter the sentence and a slap on the wrist.
not arguing, kinda agree with that in a sense. but hard to swallow slap on the wrist when we here in Canada.

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Drunk drivers skate a few times before lowering the hammer. And even then….a slap on the wrist for killing 1, 2, 3, 4. Maiming oh so many more.

Gang bangers back out on the streets in days, over and over and over. To peddle hard drugs, soft drugs, women…buy and sell firearms, kill each other and anyone in the wrong place, at the wrong time indiscriminately.

child abusers, wife beaters, barely do time at all.

etc and so on.
 
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not arguing, kinda agree with that in a sense. but hard to swallow slap on the wrist when we here in Canada.

Let
Drunk drivers skate a few times before lowering the hammer. And even then….a slap on the wrist for killing 1, 2, 3, 4. Maiming oh so many more.

Gang bangers back out on the streets in days, over and over and over. To peddle hard drugs, soft drugs, women…buy and sell firearms, kill each other and anyone in the wrong place, at the wrong time indiscriminately.

child abusers, wife beaters, barely do time at all.

etc and so on.
From your post I'm assuming you haven't lived outside of North America outside of vacations. In many countries the same crimes that get a slap on the wrist here in Canada have much harsher consequences. If laws were more harsher you would have people thinking twice before committing them. You can't deny or refute that there is a correlation between prison sentences and race in the western world. When we look at international laws you will a stark correlation between punishment and crime committed.

My point is when folks want to use the race card for gun violence but get upset when crimes like pedophilia and school shootings point towards once race (there are instances where other races commit these crimes). A minority who sells drugs or gets caught with an illegal gun gets a longer sentence than someone who was a pedo which shows you the system is corrupted.
 

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Dragon.
With respect, did you read what I said?

“Not arguing”. Aka I understand agree with what your point is. Except here in Canada. Everyone gets a slap on the wrist, no matter the crime, no matter their pigment.
 
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Dragon.
With respect, did you read what I said?

“Not arguing”. Aka I understand agree with what your point is. Except here in Canada. Everyone gets a slap on the wrist, no matter the crime, no matter their pigment.
You mean like under Sharia where they cut off your hand vs. a slap on the wrist? There are always going to be people in this world worse off than you, and dogs even more-so...
 

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Me?

if so, I mean like in Canada ( Dragon said North America) we go easy, too easy on everyone no matter their pigment. And no matter the crime…

If so, I mean he has a point with respect to race crime statistics. Most pedaphiles, most mass shooters are white. In Canada whites are about I think 30% of the population. Purely a guess but I’d also guess most drunk drivers are white too.
 

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Dragon.
With respect, did you read what I said?

“Not arguing”. Aka I understand agree with what your point is. Except here in Canada. Everyone gets a slap on the wrist, no matter the crime, no matter their pigment.
Disagree with everyone gets a slap on the wrist no matter the crime; no matter the pigment. That's where we don't agree. There is white privilege and classism which functions in the justice system and in courts.

Example there was a drunk driver (Marco Muzzo) a couple years ago in Ontario who killed a whole family including kids and grandparents. His sentence was so light that when he came out of prison the surviving father (deceased kids) committed suicide. Had this man been a visible minority would his sentence be the same? Would he be granted early release after tearing apart a family in such a selfish manner?
 

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Don’t have to remind me of Marco. Why do you think I said..kills 1-4 and they get a slap on the wrist???

While I wouldn’t call this light. It’s neither harsh either when you consider a maximum of life means a maximum of 2/3rds of 25. Less other things that see them out early.

You might recall this too.

how many have been killed this summer alone while bangers were out on bail???

Would you like me to link, mandatory minimums for all kinds of firearm charges being dropped?

Our justice system is a joke. It’s light on everyone, no matter their pigment, no matter the crime.
 
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Don’t have to remind me of Marco. Why do you think I said..kills 1-4 and they get a slap on the wrist???

While I wouldn’t call this light. It’s neither harsh either when you consider a maximum of life means a maximum of 2/3rds of 25. Less other things that see them out early.

You might recall this too.

how many have been killed this summer alone while bangers were out on bail???

Would you like me to link, mandatory minimums for all kinds of firearm charges being dropped?

Our justice system is a joke. It’s light on everyone, no matter their pigment, no matter the crime.
Mandatory minimums don't overlook that pigment is a factor in sentencing in the laws/courts. Ignore it all you want and refute but it does exist you either live in a bubble or just being obtuse. It's intertwined with white privilege in our society. Muzzo was a perfect example he was white and came from a family with money. If Muzzo was Indian, Chinese, Black or Hispanic no way his sentence would be the same. So let's be honest and logical with facts and reasoning not opinions and feelings.
 

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And here we go.

So then, why are you so against race statistics?…if anything you should fighting for them…don’t let the obvious splash some cold water in your face….afraid YOU might not like what they reveal? And your implicit bias?

as for our justice system. Get a clue, live in reality. You’re whining about whites that get off easy…..

Human trafficking. but look over there you say
Hard drugs like Fentanyl plus others. Killing 1,000s per year. Slaps on the wrist…

Fire arm smuggling/fire arms charges…often dropped for plea deals….

hundreds/thousands wounded each year. Slaps on the wrist.
hundreds killed each year. Slaps on the wrist.

released on bail, over and over and over

Killing all kinds, of their own, their neighbors, others in the wrong place at the time. Slaps on the wristYou have no moral ground whatsoever. I’m all for race statistics. Despite the downfalls. It’s past time.

Our entire justice system, needs an overhaul. It’s way toooooo soft.

I’m a numbers guy. I like and believe in stats, especially when trying to figure out problems/solutions. Be that.

Climate change, financial data, economic data. It helps us know some races are disadvantaged for example. Under represented in some things.

But when it comes to crime/justice system?
Nope, we don’t want that we like that bubble that shields..funny how that works.
 
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Mandatory minimums don't overlook that pigment is a factor in sentencing in the laws/courts. Ignore it all you want and refute but it does exist you either live in a bubble or just being obtuse. It's intertwined with white privilege in our society. Muzzo was a perfect example he was white and came from a family with money. If Muzzo was Indian, Chinese, Black or Hispanic no way his sentence would be the same. So let's be honest and logical with facts and reasoning not opinions and feelings.
I'd say money plays a bigger role in the modern court system though.
 
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