Interesting because there's a girl at the gym I go to and awhile ago I recognized her in a profile on seeking. She works at the gym and we've flirted a couple of times and always say hi to each other. I'm trying to stop this behaviour but she would likely be an exception if I see her again I might talk to her to maaaaybe line something up. I've flirted with 3 different LCBO girls, they all know I'm married but kind of seem down to maybe hang out and have fun.
Sugar Dating Experience
- Thread starter FunInToronto2023
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The internet really made this so much easier. To my knowledge no one I've met in the world is repressing a crush on me that I could take advantage of. But the internet makes it so easy to find willing parties that there's no need risking an unpleasant encounter trying for someone you know for real. Just not worth it regardless of whether it looks creepy
I’d say at a minimum you should already be in a position to say “hey can you resolve something my friend and I were arguing about” and present some kind of a hypothetical sugar scenario and see what she says. That gives you plausible deniability.
I can see this possible in a restaurant with a waitress but not so much at a dog park. You better have game for that and a lot if it. And be prepared to not come to this restaurant again
which is why I do it on the internet Also try putting yourself in the female's position.
She's outside at a dog park.
Alone with her dog.
She wants to always feel safe to take her dog there.
A guy comes up to her and makes some small talk and segues into asking if she's ever heard of sugar dating before (or something to that effect).
No matter how the topic is brought up, she'll know what you're getting at. And if she is classy, there is a power imbalance that directly impacts how a female feels about her safety and for the 99% that aren't into sugar dating, they may not feel safe in the park again. And if they see you, they immediately think ew that's the creepy older guy that was asking about maybe being my sugar daddy, I think I better find a different park.
This is the part that doesn’t compute for me. It just doesn’t add up. Add up the time and money spent over 6 months and……..I completely get it, if part of the allure is the thrill of the chase. And it’s pretty much guaranteed there are girls who see easy money, with little intention of hooking up.
You can put the same or similar amount of effort into finding SPs you genuinely click with. And while “off the clock” interactions might be different…..
Just curious if anyone has ever considered booking their ATF for an hour and $300. And just chilled. Showed up with some food to talk, maybe a massage for her? Kinda like a SB date with no strings right? Wave your hands if you’ve done that or thought it.
/wave
But will add, you might want to make sure it’s “genuine” …I can almost see the lightbulbs going off….
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No haven't done that before, it sounds like when a SB asks for you to pay to just meet for coffee, which I've never done before.
your loss.
I can bet my success rate of 100% trumps yours.
Again, “to each their own”. Me, I put the time and effort into finding SPs I genuinely click with. And while we don’t and I wouldn’t go on a formal date per se. There are other ways…
And even your multitude of freebies. What’s a decent hotel room cost these days…….
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Sorry to jump in on a semi-private exchange but I have to ask, what do you mean by your 'success rate of 100%'? What success are you talking about? If it's just an SP agreeing to a meeting where you don't want sex...I'm sure everyone would have a 100% success rate with that.
If you are talking about developing a genuine relationship, or even friendship, with an SP...while I've read stories on here about guys who claim to have had them, they almost always end poorly.
Maybe I'm missing something but it seems like you are trying to compare apples to oranges.
*Before posting this I read up and maybe I've figured it out. Are you talking about the money and time invested on sites like SA vs. just spending money to go and see an SP? If so, I can see your point, sort of. The difference, I think, is like fishing vs. buying a piece of salmon at the store. (Feel free to substitute for a different fish.
)No “100%” rate of hooking up..Sorry to jump in on a semi-private exchange but I have to ask, what do you mean by your 'success rate of 100%'? What success are you talking about? If it's just an SP agreeing to a meeting where you don't want sex...I'm sure everyone would have a 100% success rate with that.
If you are talking about developing a genuine relationship, or even friendship, with an SP...while I've read stories on here about guys who claim to have had them, they almost always end poorly.
Maybe I'm missing something but it seems like you are trying to compare apples to oranges.
*Before posting this I read up and maybe I've figured it out. Are you talking about the money and time invested on sites like SA vs. just spending money to go and see an SP? If so, I can see your point, sort of. The difference, I think, is like fishing vs. buying a piece of salmon at the store. (Feel free to substitute for a different fish.
As for the last and “fishing”. That’s what I mean by I get it, if part or a lot of the allure is “The thrill of the chase”..
With respect to “ending poorly”. Well that to depends. If you keep it “real” and never lose sight of some facts…..all I’m saying is that many seem to think “genuinely clicking” with SPs is a fantasy. Nope, just have to put the time and effort finding them, no differently then SBs or stumble on one by accident….
I don't understand what you mean about it being my loss and what "I can bet my success rate of 100% trumps yours". I don't see any of this as some sort of competition, I just want everyone to be happy.
Yes I've had loads of freebies and sometimes we just hook up in the car or somewhere discreet.
Hotels where I've had them come over normally run in the 600-800/night range per night and often get room service as well so that the girl feels special.
I think that is the allure. If you are still young looking, as @FunInToronto2023 claims to be, you can just go out and try to pick up the mid 20's smoke-shows and get 'it' for free. Most of the other guys have accepted the fact that if you still want to hook up with young, attractive women, we need to pay for the privilege.No “100%” rate of hooking up..
As for the last and “fishing”. That’s what I mean by I get it, if part or a lot of the allure is “The thrill of the chase”..
IMO, SP vs. SB is like fishing at a stocked trout farm vs. trolling in a lake. I don't have the time to go fishing when the outcome is uncertain but I can certainly understand the desire. The other variables are less easily defined. Eg, the claim that you get multiple hours at a discount vs. the rate that an SP charges. While undoubtedly true it is a lot less clear when you account for the time you spent searching and chatting with all the potential SB's.
Anyway, thanks for answering my question.
Loving the fishing analogies. Funny, but apt.
Would you agree that there is a difference between seeing an sp and seeing a semi-civvy who bangs one or two daddies parallel to you but has a legitimate job or school? I’ve done both more times than I can remember and to me there is a difference worth pursuing
Again, I think it depends what you are looking for. I have had SB arrangements for more than a year. I really enjoyed getting to know them and having a great connection.
In my opinion, you don't get that with an SP.
Yes, it can be a pain in the butt going through the process on Seeking but it's worth it if you find someone with whom you click.
To each his own of course.
In my opinion, you don't get that with an SP.
Yes, it can be a pain in the butt going through the process on Seeking but it's worth it if you find someone with whom you click.
To each his own of course.
This video was tl:dr (or tl:dw as the case may be). But I get the idea that there are a lot of men on apps like Tinder and this reduces the odds of finding someone.
Seeking used to claim that there were more women than men on the site .... and thus the odds are better. Not sure if that's the case.
It most definitely is the case.
also consider that major agencies now don’t guarantee or even promise GFE services.
so the times where you could just spontaneously and confidently book a new SP are officially gone.
Now SD/SB route makes even more sense than ever. Unless one is into grandma style “small kisses” and CBJ.
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Yup. Met with a new SB last night. The kissing, BJ and sex were all spectacular.
However, as I have said before it's not just about the sex .... haha. I really enjoyed having dinner with her and sharing some intellectual conversation and some laughs.
We are already planning our next meeting.
