Lia Thomas exposed 'male genitalia' in women's locker room after meeting
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Read the link attached to my post #294. The experts seem to think it's not as simple as you make out.
So read it and then we can discuss it. You're going to refuse of course.
Puberty blockers slow growth on teens, its a competitive disadvantage.
If you cared.
What the feck do you think puberty blockers do?
They stop puberty and the growth spurt that follows.
Which means trans girls are at a competitive disadvantage.
This whole argument is an incredibly moronic attack on an already targeted, tiny, minority.
Children DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE PROFESSIONAL SPORTS.
puberty blockers don't put trans at a competitive disadvantage...where the hell did you learn that? if anything, it just delays their development but it doesn't put them in the same level as biological females....have nothing against trans, they are individuals but they don't belong in female competitive sports, they should have their own category...
The article is ridiculous.
It starts out stating that transgirls have no advantage over cisgirls. These are children... everyone knows that girls may be stronger than prepubescent boys.
Then it argues that no trans athletes have qualified for the Olympics even though the Olympics have had trans-inclusive policies since 2004. So what? Trans are a fraction of a percent of the population.
It goes on to illustrate that testosterone is negligible in athletic performance and that 10% of women have high testosterone. So what... they're women, and the impact of testosterone occurs during puberty.
The author provides another non-argument stating that enforcing bans will be difficult because hermaphrodites exist so they have no clearcut team to play on.
Then he says that having a separate category for trans to compete in is unjust, even though it is both a just and viable solution. He says "separate but equal" doesn't work because women's sports show us that they receive less sponsorships LOL. That's the point... women receive fewer sponsorships because they cannot perform at the same physical level as men, and therefore their sports tend to be less exciting and draw significantly smaller audiences.
The author is Jack Turban . Is he trans?
ALL of human history and merely opening your eyes and observing the world tells you in no uncertain terms that men are SUPERIOR physical athletes compared to women. Do NOT mix the two.
How many 15 year-old male soccer teams have to beat women's national teams for you to understand this fundamental concept?
Serena knows...
“It’s true. It’s completely different sport. The men are a lot faster, they serve harder, they hit harder. It’s a completely different game. I love to play women’s tennis. I only want to play girls because I don’t want to be embarrassed.
“It’s true. It’s completely different sport. The men are a lot faster, they serve harder, they hit harder. It’s a completely different game. I love to play women’s tennis. I only want to play girls because I don’t want to be embarrassed.
How many 15 year-old male soccer teams have to beat women's national teams for you to understand this fundamental concept?
This factual reality alone should say it all.
This factual reality alone should say it all.
Because it's not about reality, science, hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. It's about politics and ideology. The lefties really belive that nature and biology can be done away with wishful thinking. I've seen that often enough in practice behind the Iron Curtain. It will fail as it always has.
OTOH, he IS a doctor. And you're just an angry dude with a fixation on this topic.
The notion of transgender girls having an unfair advantage comes from the idea that testosterone causes physical changes such as an increase in muscle mass. But transgender girls are not the only girls with high testosterone levels. An estimated 10 percent of women have polycystic ovarian syndrome, which results in elevated testosterone levels. They are not banned from female sports. Transgender girls on puberty blockers, on the other hand, have negligible testosterone levels. Yet these state bills would force them to play with the boys. Plus, the athletic advantage conferred by testosterone is equivocal. As Katrina Karkazis, a senior visiting fellow and expert on testosterone and bioethics at Yale University explains, “Studies of testosterone levels in athletes do not show any clear, consistent relationship between testosterone and athletic performance. Sometimes testosterone is associated with better performance, but other studies show weak links or no links. And yet others show testosterone is associated with worse performance.” The bills’ premises lack scientific validity.
There you go.
I don't have a dog in this race. OTOH, I don't want to sit back and let a bunch of angry guys ignore science and just rant about "self evident truth". Back in the 70's, my racist dad told me it was "self evident" that Blacks were dumber than whites and all his white drinking buddies agreed.
So go find some SCIENCE on this point and I'll listen.
No.
And it's not "lefties". This is a game you guys play. You take a mainstream position that you dislike - i.e. gun control, trans inclusion, whatever - and call it "extremist leftie communist marxist tyranny takeover". In fact, "pronouns" are used by most Tory Ontario civil servants. And the Olympics have been trans inclusive for 20 years.
These are mainstream bodies, not Che Guevara.
And I just cited you some science. And the science says you're full of shit. So go find me some other science and we'll chat more.
Wait, now you're saying this isn't about children at all and its about pro sports leagues?
ROTFLMFAO!!! This is not about "trans inclusion ". It's about suspension of reason, science in the name of idiotic ideology.
ROTFLMFAO!!! I'm not the one arguing against the settled biological consensus.
