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All you single guys getting up there in age, whats your future marriage plans?

RZG

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😂 straight to the point.
I`m 65, long ago divorced, no kids. I wandered back into the dating scene about 12 years ago and had relationships with 8 women, ending when Covid started to really boil. Some of them were referred by people I knew and others I knew locally. Heads up all you men 55+....if you can find a woman that isn`t a fucking disaster, you`ve located a unicorn that farts glitter. I saw the local Global news lead story last week reporting that 66 per cent of women in Ontario are dealing with mental illness, 32 per cent diagnosed and 34 per cent saying they knew they had problems but were yet undiagnosed. I guess they couldn`t contact the remaining 34 per cent. Every woman I met was broke, in debt and pretty much owned nothing. All were pro level drinkers and anti-depressants, powerful mood stabilizers and prescription sedatives were in use with every woman. Throw in serious anger troubles and selfish to the core behavior was standard issue. Don`t misinterpret this as hating women, nothing more removed from the truth with me. What it is, is truly heartbreaking and shocking to realize that there is no future with a woman anymore. Like Plant sang... "Ramble on, there`s nothing I can do now."
 

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Every woman I met was broke, in debt and pretty much owned nothing.
Broke in 50s and 60s?? Lol! Did you try dating professionals with good jobs? Maybe try that, you won't find as many crazies.
 

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Broke in 50s and 60s?? Lol! Did you try dating professionals with good jobs? Maybe try that, you won't find as many crazies.
Usually it’s either crazy or overweight or both.
If your dick can get hard with a fat woman you are lucky and you have a real chance at dating at that age.
 

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Single of course I thought that was obvious since how on earth can you live on 40 grand with a wife and 2 kids.
My point was multiply that by 4 and you have your 160.
If you can live on 18K then you just validated my point that you don't need 300 grand for a family of 4.
If you can live on 18K then you can easily live on 160 grand with a wife and 2 kids and perhaps even much less.
I don't quite know why xHab gave you a huge like since you just validated my point that you don't need 300 grand.
I dont know how you can live on 40K a year. Are you talking after tax 40K? Also do you own your house and have no debt?
 

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I'm shocked that 40K isn't enough for a family of 4. Unless you're including rent/mortgage. I was excluding that. When I say I spend 18K a year as a single person excluding mortgage, it's because I eat out every single day and book SPs. But if I was married, I would be getting food and intimacy at home so that 18K a year would be drastically less. Please keep in mind that I don't include mortgage/rent in this number. But I do include utilities and property tax.

300K for a family of 4. I can see that as a realistic figure too for an extremely rich family that lives a lavish lifestyle but 300k a year isn't obviously a middle class family because median house hold family income is around 200k. No one is running 100k+ debt a year.
How on EARTH can you eat out every day and book SPs for 18K a YEAR? Thats 1500 per month for food AND SPs? Like how is that even possible?

My weekly groceries are like 200 bucks minimum. And I dont even drink!! That works out to over 10K a year just cooking at home.
 

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How on EARTH can you eat out every day and book SPs for 18K a YEAR? Thats 1500 per month for food AND SPs? Like how is that even possible?

My weekly groceries are like 200 bucks minimum. And I dont even drink!! That works out to over 10K a year just cooking at home.
I don't have a big grocery bill. Just coffee, tea, soda, milk, cereal. When I eat out, I bring the food home so I save on drinks. I eat and drink (soda/milk) at home.

No Cooking ever. Biggest waste of time and money. I tried and failed miserably. Both on time and money.

SPs... Most are not my type so I save a lot on SPs by not booking them lol. Just once or twice a month if someone my type comes available. If more SPs were hot 23yos my yearly expenses would easily be 35K a year. I'd be willing to spend... but Toronto SPs post COVID suck.

No car. Live downtown.
 
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There are two guys of guys married to Filipinas. ATM machines and liars.
Thailand seems almost as bad. Sure sometimes it works out brilliant but there are a lot of problems involved. Double plus so in the Philippines. It's a very poor country, hot and humid, loud.
I suppose it's better than being forever alone or even forever Stallone for those swole bros.

I find it funny when they say never bring them back to your country because of feminism. No my Dahommies, you don't bring them back because over there you with your citizenship and wealth are the "Chad Thundercock" whereas back in your own country you are just another scrub among many, where as she goes from being just one of many desperate girls who being a cute exotic who has options and after a while, citizenship and half your shit. Sure not always but you will never know till it happens and even if she doesn't leave your ass, it's more likely because she is traditional minded or just is willing to settle, not because she loves your Jurassic cock.

There are also issues with those from weather countries like Japan.

But again, better than being forever alone for some people at least.

If you want to wife up, go to Elbonia or the Grand Duchy of Fennwick. Trust me.
one thing I have learned is that there is a cost for every relationship you have in life. sometimes its an equal exchange, sometimes you give, sometimes they take. all at different degrees. mostly I have found that relationships with women typically cost me more are not an equal exchange. be it money, time, mental health, resources, etc. now I dont except relationships that do not provide at least equal value define by me; not them, since the sexes and or people value things differently.

its about me and my best interest(a legal marriage contract is not). I will always place myself before any person and if Im not happy I will bounce.

I have no delusions of what type of people are out there, men and women. prepare for the worse and have back plans, know the person extremely well, and be logical not emotional.

some men just cant be alone for some reason, I for one am not one of those men



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Somewhere between here and there
I'm in my 50's and don't want to get married ever again, I have two kids with my ex and thats it - I prefer to live alone and not get into a shared life - my divorce almost bankrupted me and the two kids are still on the payroll.

I find it easy to meet women, bars, grocery store, hiking clubs.

The hobby is a way to add more to my life and have been able to try a variety of lovely women.

I currently am in an "open" relationship with my GF - at first she was pushing me to move in an live together but we realized she only wanted to because of pressure from her friends and family. Our current situation works better for both of us. I have my place, and my son lives with me full time plus I have two friends living and paying rent. It works well.

I also have a couple of fwb - one for over 35 years and the other I dated briefly and now we hook up once or twice a year.

I find that the ladies that are attracted to me are in their 40's, Asian women seem to love me - I am a white guy with a solid dad body - bald with a goatee - when I was the apps it was awesome but a lot crazy out there
 

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I don't have a big grocery bill. Just coffee, tea, soda, milk, cereal. When I eat out, I bring the food home so I save on drinks. I eat and drink (soda/milk) at home.

No Cooking ever. Biggest waste of time and money. I tried and failed miserably. Both on time and money.

SPs... Most are not my type so I save a lot on SPs by not booking them lol. Just once or twice a month if someone my type comes available. If more SPs were hot 23yos my yearly expenses would easily be 35K a year. I'd be willing to spend... but Toronto SPs post COVID suck.

No car. Live downtown.
Makes sense. Especially if you bring take out from places such as OMG Gyro that is shit tons of food for like 10-15 bucks. If you ordered on Ubereats though it would be crazy expensive.
 

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Absolutely none.

I made peace with the fact that I'm probably never going to be in at the very least a LTR a long time ago. If I want intimacy and companionship, even if it's just for a couple of hours, I can just go to see a provider.

I've always been a bit of a loner, I've just decided to embrace that in recent years.

Just to add to this, I have been kicking around giving Tinder or one of the hook-up apps a shot. The way I see it, I'm at an age where I can appeal to younger women because they know older guys are good in bed and women my age or close to it who are divorced or coming out of LTRs who are just looking for something casual.
 
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Rose11

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Makes sense. Especially if you bring take out from places such as OMG Gyro that is shit tons of food for like 10-15 bucks. If you ordered on Ubereats though it would be crazy expensive.
Lol, I hate OMG Gyro. I try a mix of Subways, Thai, and Kabab places. Mostly under 16 bucks. If you're super cheap you can try Popeyes and McDonald's , I try to avoid those but once in a while when I have a Chicken craving. The only downside of Popeyes is it makes you HORNY AF. So if you don't have a Taylor Swift around to fix that craving you're F-ed.
 
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krealtarron

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Lol, I hate OMG Gyro. I try a mix of Subways, Thai, and Kabab places. Mostly under 16 bucks. If you're super cheap you can try Popeyes and McDonald's , I try to avoid those but once in a while when I have a Chicken craving. The only downside of Popeyes is it makes you HORNY AF. So if you don't have a Taylor Swift around to fix that craving you're F-ed.
I love fried chicken AFTER a session.

Try Monga Fried Chicken. Order their original crispy chicken with plum pickle salt and sweet potato fries. I try avoid fried chicken but when I get a takeout from there I always eat 4 pieces with sweet potato fries!! I also love PG Clucks. A PG cluck sandwich and their banana pudding is also a great meal after a session haha.
 
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I'm 35 now, spring and summer is coming up and I'm starting to feel a bit of anxiety about the rest of my life in terms of marriage and kids. I've just been having fun up to this point, but the years have crept up on me.

I'm not even sure I want marriage and a kids but I wouldnt want to be alone the rest of my life either.

Part of it is that I havent met anyone who I would even consider marrying. I dated an attractive girl for a year and I knew she was bad for me but I just stuck around because of her looks, and she was fun to be around too. Usually any dating prospects end within a few weeks because we know we don't match. A normal guy might push through it just to get laid, but if I know we don't vibe I don't care, I'll just see a sp to satiate my needs.

Another part of it is just the economy. I make above average money (160k altogether last year), and it affords me an above average bachelor lifestyle. It's not enough to have a comfortable life with a family though. I'm in 0 debt, have good savings, I can quit my job and do whatever I want for a long while if needed.

Married people also seem miserable. I've lost most of my similar aged friends, or see them once a year because they're just exhausted and filled with obligations.

I've thought about just getting married with no kids either but I wouldnt be able to stay faithful. Also I would hate to get bored of each other and just be resentful. If there aren't kids, there isn't really a common goal to keep you together, it's basically just a longterm roommate situation.

These days I'm getting a bit of guilt though. Whenever I come back from a night of heavy drinking and partying, or go on a sp binge, I'll start to just think about the rest of my life. Is it going to be sad to keep this up for the rest of my life?

Is anyone in the same spot? What about you older guys who have been through this? I've met a lot of older guys who tell me never to get married and I dont know if they're joking or not.
I'm in a similar position. Mid 30s, good paying job with great career prospects, but never settled down for a variety of reasons. You mention that married people seem miserable, and I think a lot of that stems from the fact that they got married for the wrong reasons. They got married because they didn't want to go through life alone, they wanted a family and that stereotypical life. When, personally, I believe you should only get married if and only if you find the right partner to do it with. It's a tricky thing, because the clock works against us, especially for women, but forcing it can lead to those unhappy and unfulfilling marriages. It's even trickier because modern day life does not suit married life well, with a bunch of added stresses that can put strain on a marriage.

The fact you say you wouldn't be able to stay faithful, or that you're worried about getting bored of one another, tells me you've not yet met the right one for you. Because when you meet someone compatible on a such a deep level, boredom is never an issue.

You sound like you are on the verge of getting tired of that bachelor life, and may be looking for a longer term partner. That's a good thing. Just be open to it and let it happen. Whatever you do, don't just go looking for a woman because you want the long-term company of marriage, or to raise a family. You have to choose the woman, not the life. The rest will come natural. Good luck!
 

RZG

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Broke in 50s and 60s?? Lol! Did you try dating professionals with good jobs? Maybe try that, you won't find as many crazies.
Six of them had well paying jobs, 2 were retired. The problem with all of them was their relentless spending, when you have 70 grand in credit card debt, have 80 pairs of shoes(seriously), crushingly large car leases and huge rents and dining out and $$drinking$$, financial problems erupt. Something else...all but one had adult children that were a never ending financial drain, money, money all the time. Color me gone for keeps.
 

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Six of them had well paying jobs, 2 were retired. The problem with all of them was their relentless spending, when you have 70 grand in credit card debt, have 80 pairs of shoes(seriously), crushingly large car leases and huge rents and dining out and $$drinking$$, financial problems erupt. Something else...all but one had adult children that were a never ending financial drain, money, money all the time. Color me gone for keeps.
That sounds unbelievable (except the shoes part). But I will take your word for it. Eventually you miss a payment and... They take your car away lol.
 

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I`m 65, long ago divorced, no kids. I wandered back into the dating scene about 12 years ago and had relationships with 8 women, ending when Covid started to really boil. Some of them were referred by people I knew and others I knew locally. Heads up all you men 55+....if you can find a woman that isn`t a fucking disaster, you`ve located a unicorn that farts glitter. I saw the local Global news lead story last week reporting that 66 per cent of women in Ontario are dealing with mental illness, 32 per cent diagnosed and 34 per cent saying they knew they had problems but were yet undiagnosed. I guess they couldn`t contact the remaining 34 per cent. Every woman I met was broke, in debt and pretty much owned nothing. All were pro level drinkers and anti-depressants, powerful mood stabilizers and prescription sedatives were in use with every woman. Throw in serious anger troubles and selfish to the core behavior was standard issue. Don`t misinterpret this as hating women, nothing more removed from the truth with me. What it is, is truly heartbreaking and shocking to realize that there is no future with a woman anymore. Like Plant sang... "Ramble on, there`s nothing I can do now."
I had similar experiences. This is what I’ve been telling my friends. It’s hard to build a life with a woman in this part of the world. The whole ‘boss bitch’ mentality isn’t good. Instead of competing with men, why not each person play their role and work together as complementary opposites? Anyway, I 100% understand your experience bc I went through something similar. Being single as a man is just a lot less friction in life. It’s more peaceful.
 
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RZG

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That sounds unbelievable (except the shoes part). But I will take your word for it. Eventually you miss a payment and... They take your car away lol.
Swear to Dog, every word is true. Last summer I had neighbors that sold and moved back to New Brunswick, their adult kid ( unemployed and alcoholic, big toker too) told me that his mom, the wife, had buried them in credit card debt of over 90 grand. She was also a dedicated alcoholic, early 50`s, that had serious heart surgery shortly before moving. When you hear numerous economists saying that over half the country is 200 bucks a month from going over a cliff, none of what I experienced comes as surprising.
 

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I find that the ladies that are attracted to me are in their 40's, Asian women seem to love me - I am a white guy with a solid dad body - bald with a goatee - when I was the apps it was awesome but a lot crazy out there
On dating apps I would mostly get replied to by Chinese born women even though most of the messages sent out were to white chicks. Oddly enough when a "woman" would contact me first it would be white chicks.
In real life I get very little response but when I look back the tendency also shows.
Not that I am complaining much, I should get off muh buttocks and learn me some mando and canto.
 
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