In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism

Valcazar

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So you both agree Bibi is a nightmare who is toying with explicit dictatorship and empowering dangerous right wing forces?
 

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So you both agree Bibi is a nightmare who is toying with explicit dictatorship and empowering dangerous right wing forces?
Yes, Netanyahu is trying to keep out of prison by making deals with the religious extremists and trying to outplay the courts.
He's as corrupt as Abbas, but way more effective, Abbas does nothing good or bad, just nothing.

I assume you have noticed that Palestinians or 'Israeli Arabs' aren't taking part in these protests as well, haven't you?
 
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So you both agree Bibi is a nightmare who is toying with explicit dictatorship and empowering dangerous right wing forces?
The 4.5 million Palestinians of the Occupied Territories have been living under an explicit Israeli dictatorship for the past 50 years - Run by the very people who are now shrieking about their own pending loss of rights. They don’t give a flying f*ck about about what has or what will happen to Palestinians.

While the Israeli public should fight these proposed changes, the exclusion of the occupation from the list of policies to be overturned, reveals a tone deaf, myopic and narcissistic outlook that’s consistent with the Apartheid label firmly affixed to Israel.
 
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The 4.5 million Palestinians of the Occupied Territories have been living under an explicit Israeli dictatorship for the past 50 years - Run by the very people who are now shrieking about their own pending loss of rights. They don’t give a flying f*ck about about what has or what will happen to Palestinians.

While the Israeli public should fight these proposed changes, the exclusion of the occupation from the list of policies to be overturned, reveals a tone deaf, myopic and narcissistic outlook that’s consistent with the Apartheid label firmly affixed to Israel.
The protests against Netanyahu are really only about what form of apartheid rule should exist there, its a protest for the occupiers who are concerned with the form of the Jewish state, not whether Israel should be a liberal democracy. That decision has already been made.

Israelis need to see through the biggest lie of all
Israel cannot be a ‘Jewish state’ and a democracy, an occupier and a liberal society.
 
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Ok, lets limit to settlers who are actively illegally colonizing Palestine through force.
Oh, wait, that's all of them.
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I love it when you completely contradict your Amnesty etc.

And yes, it is obvious that you think Jews shouldn't be in the West Bank while you have no issue with Israeli Arabs being there. I wonder if there is a term for a set of laws that discriminate against people solely on the basis of race.
 

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That does not endorse any peace plan. And worth noting that 88% of Palestinians reject the idea of equal rights you demand they support.
Sure it does.
BDS provides a peaceful end to apartheid in the de facto, apartheid, one state solution.

You just won't accept that as an option because of your Islamaphobia.
 
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I love it when you completely contradict your Amnesty etc.

And yes, it is obvious that you think Jews shouldn't be in the West Bank while you have no issue with Israeli Arabs being there. I wonder if there is a term for a set of laws that discriminate against people solely on the basis of race.
Its not my call, its the UN that says all settlements are war crimes, and all settlers are war criminals.
If you want the set of laws about discrimination based on race, look up apartheid.

Why do you support war crimes and apartheid and then try to claim its racist to stand up for the law?
 
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For very different reasons. I want to see positive change. Frank just wants Israel gone.
BDS ending apartheid would be positive change that won't result in Israel going anywhere.
What you want gone is Palestine, which Israel has succeeded in disappearing.
Now you've just got apartheid.
 

basketcase

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Sure it does.
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We've been through this repeatedly and you've admitted you are wrong. Like you, BDS doesn't care about peace, simply harming Israeli Jews.

And I see you have no comment on 88% of Palestinians opposing equal rights.
 

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No.
Wow. The anti-overhaul protests have been peaceful, even if assholes attack them, and those protests have been successful so far. I know you think shooting random Jews is the best way to solve a disagreement but thankfully most of the world disagrees.
 

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...and all settlers are war criminals.
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This is the bullshit where your blood-thirsty racial hatred shows.

Amnesty and the US are 100% clear that simply being a Jew in the West Bank does not make one a military target, no matter how much you hate them.
 

Frankfooter

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We've been through this repeatedly and you've admitted you are wrong. Like you, BDS doesn't care about peace, simply harming Israeli Jews.

And I see you have no comment on 88% of Palestinians opposing equal rights.
Really?
You're down to out and out lying about what I say now?
I have not lied nor admitted I was wrong.

BDS supports a form of peace you can never accept.
The end of apartheid and equal rights for Palestinians and Jews.

You will never accept equal rights, will you?
Never.

By the way, are you really going to argue that apartheid is more popular than BDS with Palestinians?
As if you speak for Palestinians?

Amazing.
 

Frankfooter

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This is the bullshit where your blood-thirsty racial hatred shows.

Amnesty and the US are 100% clear that simply being a Jew in the West Bank does not make one a military target, no matter how much you hate them.
Every single settlement is a war crime.
A war crime you support.

You support the colonization of Palestine through force and the apartheid rule over those same people.


Is this what you mean by 'random Jews'?
 
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Frankfooter

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Wow. The anti-overhaul protests have been peaceful, even if assholes attack them, and those protests have been successful so far. I know you think shooting random Jews is the best way to solve a disagreement but thankfully most of the world disagrees.
This is what you mean by 'random Jews', isn't it?

Was that an attack of 'random Jews' or terrorist settlers acting on behalf of the state of Israel?
 
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basketcase

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Really?
You're down to out and out lying about what I say now?
I have not lied nor admitted I was wrong.
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Yet you've posted directly from BDS about how they don't support any peace plan. But sure, speak for the Palestinians despite 88% of them rejecting the idea of equal rights you want them forced into.
 
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