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KDK13

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All the gun control in the world won't prevent the gun violence in the US. You cannot equate them with the UK or New Zealand or Australia. Its a completely different culture. Plus those countries don't share a 2,000 mile border with a violent country.
By the way there is gun control in the United States. Some states (California, Illinois, New York) have stricter gun laws than Canada does.
US guns supporting the Mexican Cartels. They buy them in USA then smuggle them down to Mexico.
 

Knuckle Ball

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There have been over 1000 mass shootings in the last couple of years.
Did you call for treatment to the other 997?
Indeed. Compared to white, conservative, cis gendered males, the chances of a mass shooter’s being trans are extremely low. Once the Left completes its secret plan to trick everybody into turning trans we will have far fewer mass shootings.
 

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Dude we are better. Walmart is closing 258 stores due to looting. The homeless issues are far far worse. Shootings, overdoses and over violence are way up and under reported down there.
Problems are worse in blue cities and blue states in the U.S..
 

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Problems are worse in blue cities and blue states in the U.S..
Look at the vote maps. Most cities in all states vote ,"blue". And tts false. The small towns are rife with Meth, Crack and poverty. Its just underreported because news stations are in cities and have larger populations.

There is no party problem. Its a systemic one.
 

Valcazar

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But they are not the state.
How is the judiciary not the state?
The judiciary which is established in the Constitution, picked by the Executive and approved by the legislature?
The judiciary which is explicitly one of the "Three Branches of Government" and authorized by and supported with the power of the State?

The judicial system should be bipartisan and seek to regulate the state by upholding the constitution and laws passed by the state.
Why would being "bipartisan" mean they aren't part of the State?
If they are "upholding the constitution and laws passed by the state" then they are an arm of the state?

I know there are some super-wonky definitions of the state used in some libertarian circles, is that what is going on?
 

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How is the judiciary not the state?
The judiciary which is established in the Constitution, picked by the Executive and approved by the legislature?
The judiciary which is explicitly one of the "Three Branches of Government" and authorized by and supported with the power of the State?



Why would being "bipartisan" mean they aren't part of the State?
If they are "upholding the constitution and laws passed by the state" then they are an arm of the state?

I know there are some super-wonky definitions of the state used in some libertarian circles, is that what is going on?
I suppose the word "state" is all encompassing. And no nothing to do with political ideology. Perhaps I was trying to refer to the legislative and executive bodies as the "state" and the judiciary as an independent governing body that upholds the constitution and resolves disputes, without being partisan. I do think that the fact that the US has "conservative" judges or "liberal" judges is concerning as it relates to them doing their jobs (not their own personal beliefs).
 

Valcazar

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The left have been in the business of dominating US court appointments since at least the 1960s. They realized that the courts offered opportunities for legal reforms that they were never going to achieve legislatively. Their efforts stopped short of SCOTUS only because of the Senate approval process. Because the Presidency and the Senate are often in the hands of opposite parties, SCOTUS is the MOST politically BALANCED court in the US.
This is, of course, delusional nonsense.

There is no solution to the problem that the courts are influenced by politics BECAUSE LAW IS POLITICS! It always was. It always will be.
This, however, is true.
The issue is, as with all politics, what kind of incentives do you build into place and what kind of culture around it do you nourish.
The Conservative movement - specifically the Federalist Society style - has decided to go all in with raw power as their approach, but seem very annoyed that people aren't pretending that isn't what they are doing.

The original courts merely presided in place of the King or the local nobles. They were never intended to be independent of politics. They were only intended as a dispute resolution mechanism that might result in less bloodshed (which even monarchs realized was disruptive to the economy, at least if it were to be widespread). Don't ask a system to do any more than it was designed to do.
If we got back to "dispute resolution system that resulted in less bloodshed" (because it was viewed as largely fair) that would be great.
Unfortunately, that's not the direction the right wing has chosen to go and I suspect it is going to get worse before any kind of truce to bring it back there is possible.
 

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Well Biden knew that people just got shot, yet he's more worried about his fawken chocolate chip ice cream.
and cute kids. Does he have a "thing" for kids? Creepy old fart. But, it's all about time and place, isn't it? Had Trump done something like this, the media's shrinks would be calling for the 25th amendment.
 
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Nashville Shooting Police Say Shooter Was Under Doctor’s Care for ‘Emotional Disorder’



Shows how retarded the Gun Laws are in parts of the USA for a mentally unstable individual to be granted access "legally" to carryout such despicable crimes.
Yet the far right "wokeism nonsense" has weaponized in this instance!!
 
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