Covid raging in China. Canada needs to test all arrivals from China immediately

krealtarron

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You claimed we are not paying for it. I proved otherwise. Now you think expanding ICU is like flipping a switch and recruiting healthcare workers is like hiring Amazon warehouse workers. You are ignorant.
We won't be paying anything significantly extra than what we have already is what I mean. We are 3 years into the pandemic, and you are saying there is no reason to expand ICU capacity?

Banning travel, lockdowns, mandates etc are idiotic. Covid is now endemic and we are going to live with it for the rest of our lives. Get your vaccine, treat it like the flu and move on.

No reason to panic and ban travel etc.,

Its so easy to whip up panic in this part of the world. Grow up.
 
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We won't be paying anything significantly extra than what we have already is what I mean. We are 3 years into the pandemic, and you are saying there is no reason to expand ICU capacity?

Banning travel, lockdowns, mandates etc are idiotic. Covid is now endemic and we are going to live with it for the rest of our lives. Get your vaccine, treat it like the flu and move on.

No reason to panic and ban travel etc.,

Its so easy to whip up panic in this part of the world. Grow up.

Failure by China to provide accurate information is what led to global spread of Covid. Chinese went to their hometowns during the Chinese New Year holidays and returned to major cities and the world in 2020 with high rates of infection. Guess what is about to happen? Yup, Chinese New Year is around the corner again.

With again no accurate data on type of Covid, rates of infection, hospitalization, deaths, etc., as demanded by WHO, Chinese returning from CNY holidays can spread a different type of Covid globally. Again. This is why some countries have adopted a safety first approach requiring testing of all passengers from China. Italy found 52% Covid positive passengers on one recent flight.

I am saying Canada should take the same precautionary approach as US, UK, Japan, etc. and test all arrivals from China. This is just common sense. But you know what, common sense is not common to the ignoramus.
 

kyleb899

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covid is over, majority people don't wear masks anymore, I still see some fools still wear them like idoits lol
 

curr3n_c1000

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We are if we test people. There is also no reason to fear COVID. More than 85% of the population is vaccinated. Banning travel is a ridiculous overreaction. We are already fucked economically because of all these bullshit restrictions. No more.
First we are not banning travel. We are banning arrivals from China. Second we don't know if they have a new strain of covid. And the most important is China doesn't have a grip on the situation and wants little foreign help. Rolling the dice is how the world economy collapsed in the first place, why roll again? Their leaders brought us down before and they would do it again. Makes no sense to keep everything unchecked, when you can easily isolate the issue and work from there.

Other countries understand this, but once again Canada doesn't. It's ridiculous.
 

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krealtarron

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First we are not banning travel. We are banning arrivals from China. Second we don't know if they have a new strain of covid. And the most important is China doesn't have a grip on the situation and wants little foreign help. Rolling the dice is how the world economy collapsed in the first place, why roll again? Their leaders brought us down before and they would do it again. Makes no sense to keep everything unchecked, when you can easily isolate the issue and work from there.

Other countries understand this, but once again Canada doesn't. It's ridiculous.
The new strains will keep developing. You cant implement restrictions every time there is a surge.

We rolled the dice on implementing heavy restrictions and the economic downturn we are seeing is result of that.

I also think blanket banning arrivals is not necessary. Why ban someone from coming if they dont have covid? We have tests that can reveal that, so just test them prior to boarding and test them on arrival and isolate if they have symptoms. Make them show vaccine proofs and and maybe implement mask mandates only for those passengers.
 

krealtarron

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Failure by China to provide accurate information is what led to global spread of Covid. Chinese went to their hometowns during the Chinese New Year holidays and returned to major cities and the world in 2020 with high rates of infection. Guess what is about to happen? Yup, Chinese New Year is around the corner again.

With again no accurate data on type of Covid, rates of infection, hospitalization, deaths, etc., as demanded by WHO, Chinese returning from CNY holidays can spread a different type of Covid globally. Again. This is why some countries have adopted a safety first approach requiring testing of all passengers from China. Italy found 52% Covid positive passengers on one recent flight.

I am saying Canada should take the same precautionary approach as US, UK, Japan, etc. and test all arrivals from China. This is just common sense. But you know what, common sense is not common to the ignoramus.
Testing arrivals is good, I agree with that. Test them prior to boarding, test them on arrival, mask mandates on those flights, vaccine proofs via ArriveCAN etc are enough.

I was against blanket banning travel or implementing any restrictions here in Canada. But not sure if I misunderstood what you were saying or lost track.
 

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How about we get some accurate numbers for Ontario. Getting a PCR test is next to impossible and they have stopped reporting on numbers.
 
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The new strains will keep developing. You cant implement restrictions every time there is a surge.

We rolled the dice on implementing heavy restrictions and the economic downturn we are seeing is result of that.

I also think blanket banning arrivals is not necessary. Why ban someone from coming if they dont have covid? We have tests that can reveal that, so just test them prior to boarding and test them on arrival and isolate if they have symptoms. Make them show vaccine proofs and and maybe implement mask mandates only for those passengers.
Calling China a surge is an understatement. It's a problem and if they don't want foreign help, we can't ignore the threat.

We never rolled the dice on heavy restrictions. It was an out of control problem and needed to be contained.

If China cannot be transparent, a temp ban is must be implemented. Arrivals from China (to Italy) have a infection rate of 50%, Why test? It's a waste of our money.

If this was a poorer country instead of China, I feel the response would be different. The government, so called Health Officials and many citizens a hypocrites. When a few countries in Africa had Omicron, those countries were placed on a travel ban immediately for 20 days.
 

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Calling China a surge is an understatement. It's a problem and if they don't want foreign help, we can't ignore the threat.

We never rolled the dice on heavy restrictions. It was an out of control problem and needed to be contained.

If China cannot be transparent, a temp ban is must be implemented. Arrivals from China (to Italy) have a infection rate of 50%, Why test? It's a waste of our money.

If this was a poorer country instead of China, I feel the response would be different. The government, so called Health Officials and many citizens a hypocrites. When a few countries in Africa had Omicron, those countries were placed on a travel ban immediately for 20 days.
They are not going to board unless they show negative test results. They are paying for it. No reason to ban people who dont have covid from coming. We definitely rolled the dice on heavy restrictions as it did nothing other than to ruin the economy.

Also what help can other nations provide China? Everything is manufactured there anyway lol.
 

krealtarron

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How about we get some accurate numbers for Ontario. Getting a PCR test is next to impossible and they have stopped reporting on numbers.
We dont need any of it. Just move on, if you get Covid stay home. If not just get on with your life its not that big of a deal. We are over Covid and its time to stop being in pandemic panic mode.
 

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We dont need any of it. Just move on, if you get Covid stay home. If not just get on with your life its not that big of a deal. We are over Covid and its time to stop being in pandemic panic mode.
Well that is the point.
People panicking about testing people coming from China.
 
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They are not going to board unless they show negative test results. They are paying for it. No reason to ban people who dont have covid from coming. We definitely rolled the dice on heavy restrictions as it did nothing other than to ruin the economy.

Also what help can other nations provide China? Everything is manufactured there anyway lol.
China has never been transparent. Why should we believe any test coming from them? Everything is manufactured in China, except working vaccines and covid tests.

And we didn't roll the dice with heavy restriction. It was extending them that was the dice roll.
 

krealtarron

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China has never been transparent. Why should we believe any test coming from them? Everything is manufactured in China, except working vaccines and covid tests.

And we didn't roll the dice with heavy restriction. It was extending them that was the dice roll.
They do have vaccines. Its not like vaccines here are preventing anything. I got covid 3 times after taking 3 shots.

And we can definitely trust pcr test results. I am sure they can manage that lol
 

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They do have vaccines. Its not like vaccines here are preventing anything. I got covid 3 times after taking 3 shots.
Think you would know by now, vaccine does not stop you from getting sick...all it might do is help you recover faster and make the symptoms less severe
 
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kyleb899

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You might as well throw a brick against a wall and listen to the thud. You will get more out of it than trying to explain anything to some folks.
It over, lol you still wear a mask and take Non-stop covid vaccines lol
 
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