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yeah, that's true. It's like he need the validation from people to feel like a big man. But what is going on here is the "trust factor" in the Twitter brand is quickly eroding. At some point, it hits a critical point where there will be no saving it. Users will jump to competitors (like how Myspace people jumped to Facebook), and advertisers will not want to spend a lot of time/money on a platform that only caters to a fringe minority of right-wing extremists. So...would Musk continue to fund this out of his own pocket? A site that runs on a shoe string budget, brings in little revenue, and is worth a fraction for what he paid for it???
It is understandable that these are your wants, desires and hopes for Twitter however no matter how hard you and the like minds try to manifest it into reality it will just NOT materialize.

What will you do when this prediction or manifestation fails.

Will you question your own sanity, your own thought process, your own sources, your own programming or will you just forget and move on to the next thing they tell you to fantasize about because to you being obedient to your tribe to your ideology to your paradigm lock is more important because this is what you see defines you 🤔
 

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Which is strange because who buys electric car?
Well, there is a good chance that Tesla could be dropping quickly in the near future. They had a competitive advantage, but the big automakers (with the exception of Toyota - they focused on hybrids) are all making EVs. EVs which could be better serviced, cheaper and efficient. They sort of remind me of RIM when the iPhone first came out. They were like, "we have our core users who aren't interested in blah blah blah...." and soon Apple ate their lunch, and RIM (or Blackberry as its now known) just licenses its tech....

And, keep in mind, that since Elon announced his plan to buy Twitter, Tesla's share have plunged by over 50%...
 

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Yeah no company lasts forever. They could get acquired by others etc. No guarantees. Not sure what value is there in paying for Twitter either. Like to get an edit button? Who cares?

The people paying for Twitter blue will be doing so out of loyalty to Elon, or because they see Twitter now as a right wing platform. Not sure how many advertisers will be on board. Ill hang in there and if it is a MAGA hellscape, I'll delete my account.
 

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Well, there is a good chance that Tesla could be dropping quickly in the near future. They had a competitive advantage, but the big automakers (with the exception of Toyota - they focused on hybrids) are all making EVs. EVs which could be better serviced, cheaper and efficient. They sort of remind me of RIM when the iPhone first came out. They were like, "we have our core users who aren't interested in blah blah blah...." and soon Apple ate their lunch, and RIM (or Blackberry as its now known) just licenses its tech....

And, keep in mind, that since Elon announced his plan to buy Twitter, Tesla's share have plunged by over 50%...
Can you short your own company? That’s illegal right? Bill Gates has a big short on Tesla. Perhaps they are on a plot to short both?

Just thinking out loud..
 

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It’s very important IMO. Also when Yoel used to work at Twitter he mentioned they removed the racist tweets LeBron and many others talked about almost instantly many bot accounts keep getting banned. On my personal time line I don’t see any racist or hateful stuff. But I also ban many people who are rude and inappropriate to begin with.

Next time I see updates I will post it. They are also working on speed, efficiency, allowing streaming and monetizing content for creators and artists and game play.
So he wants Twitter to not be Twitter anymore.
I guess if he wants to turn Twitter into Twitch, some people will think that is an improvement.

They will make it where the laws of the country you reside govern regarding bans.
Not really an improvement of the experience for most people.
Seems to open him up to some problems with jurisdiction as well.

They will de boost negative comments on threads.
How does that improve things?

They plan on having a well rounded council to review from all sides.
He already abandoned that, didn't it?
He announced he wasn't going to do that.

Those are just the start. I am personally noticing a lot of improvements and have been using Twitter since 2009.
What improvements?
I've seen more outages, problems with the RT function, issues with DM control, etc.

Aso I think they will open source algos so you can have more control over content.
That's gibberish "open source algos".
If he means "you will have the ability to control the algorithm for yourself" then he should say that.

He has a huge problem there, of course, in that allowing people to control their algorithm will fuck with his advertising revenue and he is in need of revenue.

Podcast will be dynamic with video and comments meaning you will be able to comment on specific sections of a podcast and discuss with others.
Can't you do this already? Just mark the time and start a twitter thread.
Twitter isn't a podcasting platform.

This is just the stuff off the top of my head. There are many more.
So the only improvements you've noticed are things that don't exist but Elon is promising in the future.
Nothing real, then.
 

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The amount of drivel, fear mongering and propaganda echoing is unreal. this is what they want you all to do. Divide make everything right vs left my tribe vs your tribe my ideology vs your ideology, radicalize people and have them fight till their death for fabrications and ideas because someone has convinced them this is the way, this is noble, gives them purpose and meaning and have them fight and disseminate this ideology till their death.

set back look higher.

Approximately 16-20,000 years ago we have evidence of advanced civilizations that existed until got wiped out by the great floods. They were not just hunter gatherers. Since then many civilizations (greater then hunter fatherers), ideologies arose and collapsed within. Many refer this to societal collapse when they get to powerful they eat themselves from within collapse for many various reasons.

so this society collapse keeps repeating however their is a thing called the great filter that destroys all societies and potential life opportunities if intelligent life does not get its shit together and solve our most fundamental problems like ideology differences and becomes say multi planetary.

So where are we today? Divided, tribal, taking on the attitude if you don’t agree with everything in my ideology you are extreme this extreme that. But this distracts us. This distracts us for the grave threats facing mankind like nuclear holocaust. Then majority of the population will be destroyed other then the wealthy people who have bunkers underground with their self sustaining systems. Some actually believe this is the way. If not man made eventually the sun will get hotter and wipe all life out.

So here comes Elon Musk. He is on the spectrum but is extremely hyper focused, intelligent and qualified based on his education, degrees, and proven result.

His goal is to make humanity multi planetary because he believes in this. He acquired Twitter at a loss however he feels this is necessary to connect everyone and give them an equal chance. Think about having 24/7 access to Twitter through satellites alone and a dedicated payment universal statement that is rule dependent, set inflationary by a default amount and not controlled by ideology and political. His mind doesn’t think about ideology it’s just solving this problem like gamer beating a game like hyper focused on the goal.

Yes this threatens the ones in power. Yes this threatens peoples identity however he will not stop and he will die trying. For him this is important and beyond our comprehension because he doesn’t think like people who are not on the spectrum.

Therefor Twitter is only a small part. Starlink is only a small part. Dogecoin is only a small part. AI neural training through Twitter and peoples interactions, tendencies, habits, impulses is a small part. Maybe it helps us achieve AI singularity. Nobody is taking about dojo. Do you know they successfully implanted a neuralink into a quadriplegic and this individual can communicate directly with us and use the phone with their mind. This is coming up. Do you know about the #dearmoon and Japanese billionaire who already paid for the ticket and they will send people around the moon, then make moon bases, then make mars bases. There is a thing called starship which will be game changer to exploration beyond earth. Also the amount of material it can send to orbit will be a major disruption.

This is all coming together. There is also the x.com he has in his back pocket. How about the Tesla phone if google and Apple don’t want to play nice.

I totally understand that majority won’t understand this. However for the few that are interested here is my perspective, why I think is happening and where it’s heading. The rest is noise especially by the powerful who control ideology control the people under that ideology this make them feel threatened which they pass onto their followers their ideology soldiers lol

Just ask yourself how did the first religion or belief system originate, disseminate, take root and spread to other mind. Why give someone else the power over your emotional freedom and free will because of fabrications and ideas?

The reality is we can stop what’s coming like global warming or the sun eventually getting hotter and destroying all life on earth, however if we keep destroying ourselves first we will never get out shit together to pass the great filter. It will be always if he have half of his wealth on earth world hunger would disappear or this and that which is not sustainable. Think about that saying give a man a fish and he is fed for a day teach him how to fish and he is fed for a lifetime.


 
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The amount of drivel, fear mongering and propaganda echoing is unreal. this is what they want you all to do. Divide make everything right vs left my tribe vs your tribe my ideology vs your ideology, radicalize people and have them fight till their death for fabrications and ideas because someone has convinced them this is the way, this is noble, gives them purpose and meaning and have them fight and disseminate this ideology till their death.

set back look higher.

Approximately 16-20,000 years ago we have evidence of advanced civilizations that existed until got wiped out by the great floods. They were not just hunter gatherers. Since then many civilizations (greater then hunter fatherers), ideologies arose and collapsed within. Many refer this to societal collapse when they get to powerful they eat themselves from within collapse for many various reasons.

so this society collapse keeps repeating however their is a thing called the great filter that destroys all societies and potential life opportunities if intelligent life does not get its shit together and solve our most fundamental problems like ideology differences and becomes say multi planetary.

So where are we today? Divided, tribal, taking on the attitude of you don’t agree with everything in my ideology you are extreme this extreme that. But this distracts us. This distracts us for the grave threats facing mankind like nuclear holocaust. Then majority of the population will be destroyed other then the wealthy people who have bunkers underground with their self sustaining systems. Some actually believe this is the way. If not man made eventually the sun will get hotter and wipe all life out.

So here comes Elon Musk. He is on the spectrum but is extremely hyper focused, intelligent and qualified based on his education, degrees, and proven result.

His goal is to make humanity multi planetary because he believes in this. He acquired Twitter at a loss however he feels this is necessary to connect everyone and give them an equal chance. Think about having 24/7 access to Twitter through satellites alone and a dedicated payment universal statement that is rule dependent, set inflationary by a default amount and not controlled by ideology and political. His mind doesn’t think about ideology it’s just solving this problem like gamer beating a game like hyper focused on the goal.

Yes this threatens the ones in power. Yes this threatens peoples identity however he will not stop and he will die trying. For him this is important and beyond our comprehension because he doesn’t think like people who are not on the spectrum.

Therefor Twitter is only a small part. Starlink is only a small part. Dogecoin is only a small part. AI neural training through Twitter and peoples interactions, tendencies, habits, impulses is a small part. Maybe it helps us achieve AI singularity. Nobody is taking about dojo. Do you know they successfully implanted a neuralink into a quadriplegic and this individual can communicate directly with us and use the phone with their mind. This is coming up. Do you know about the #dearmoon and Japanese billionaire who already paid for the ticket and they will send people around the moon, then make moon bases, then make mars bases. There is a thing called starship which will be game changer to exploration beyond earth. Also the amount of material it can send to orbit will be a major disruption.

This is all coming together. There is also the x.com he has in his back pocket. How about the Tesla phone if google and Apple don’t want to play nice.

I totally understand that majority won’t understand this. However for the few that are interested here is my perspective, why I think is happening and where it’s heading. The rest is noise especially by the powerful who control ideology control the people under that ideology this make them feel threatened which they pass onto their followers their ideology soldiers lol

Just ask yourself how did the first religion or belief system originate, disseminate, take root and spread to other mind. Why give someone else the power over your emotional freedom and free will because of fabrications and ideas?

The reality is we can stop what’s coming like global warming or the sun eventually getting hotter and destroying all life on earth, however if we keep destroying ourselves first we will never get out shit together to pass the great filter. It will be always if he have half of his wealth on earth world hunger would disappear or this and that which is not sustainable. Think about that saying give a man a fish and he is fed for a day teach him how to fish and he is fed for a lifetime.


You should maybe have a nice lunch somewhere and when you have a full stomach and take a little time to rest, the strange thoughts will go away.

And there were no civilizations 20,000 years ago. Bronze Age settlements go back to maybe 7 or 8,000 years.
 

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So he wants Twitter to not be Twitter anymore.
I guess if he wants to turn Twitter into Twitch, some people will think that is an improvement.



Not really an improvement of the experience for most people.
Seems to open him up to some problems with jurisdiction as well.



How does that improve things?



He already abandoned that, didn't it?
He announced he wasn't going to do that.



What improvements?
I've seen more outages, problems with the RT function, issues with DM control, etc.



That's gibberish "open source algos".
If he means "you will have the ability to control the algorithm for yourself" then he should say that.

He has a huge problem there, of course, in that allowing people to control their algorithm will fuck with his advertising revenue and he is in need of revenue.



Can't you do this already? Just mark the time and start a twitter thread.
Twitter isn't a podcasting platform.



So the only improvements you've noticed are things that don't exist but Elon is promising in the future.
Nothing real, then.
Direct improvements include speed, decrease of hateful content, CSE, and banning bots to name a few.
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You should maybe have a nice lunch somewhere and when you have a full stomach and take a little time to rest, the strange thoughts will go away.

And there were no civilizations 20,000 years ago. Bronze Age settlements go back to maybe 7 or 8,000 years.
They took samples of ancient builds and dated it to something like 16-20k years ago.

Regardless if it’s 6k or 20k societal collapse keeps happening is the point.

Also it is totally understandable that you will not understand. However I am not after your validation or approval.

This is happening regardless if you like it, approve of it, or understand it.
 
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They took samples of ancient builds and dated it to something like 16-20k years ago.

Regardless if it’s 6k or 20k societal collapse keeps happening is the point.

Also it is totally understandable that you will not understand. However I am not after your validation or approval.

This is happening regardless if you like it, approve of it, or understand it.
You know that guy is a quack, right?
 

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You know that guy is a quack, right?
Yes he covers that in his first episode what the prevailing ideology says about him. However the samples don’t lie. It’s the ideas that are questionable and why. Point is there existed societies smarter then hunter gatherers that were able to build these structures and were verifiable with actual bore testing and samples of materials.

Are you saying the samples are made up and flawed?
 

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Yes he covers that in his first episode what the prevailing ideology says about him. However the samples don’t lie. It’s the ideas that are questionable and why. Point is there existed societies smarter then hunter gatherers that were able to build these structures and were verifiable with actual bore testing and samples of materials.

Are you saying the samples are made up and flawed?
You should worship him.

The irony in telling people here how they are all being brainwashed by politics WHILE actually being brainwashed by a billionaire is not lost on anyone.

This is extremely naive. Nothing Elon says has any basis in science and he has never delivered anything he says. Its all BS he says to spin outrageous stories to help sell his crappy products and stay relevant.

So here comes Elon Musk. He is on the spectrum but is extremely hyper focused, intelligent and qualified based on his education, degrees, and proven result.
This right here isnt true. The guy has a degree in physics and economics. They are not engineering. He did not start Tesla. He pushed the owners out after he became CEO and had an out of court settlement that gave him the right to call himself co founder. He did not start paypal, rather his company x.com was bought out by confinity which owned paypal. I could go on about all the lies he has spewed over the years.

There is also the x.com he has in his back pocket.
x.com merged with confinity (paypal) in 2000. lol.
 
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Valcazar

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everyone is still using Twitter...heck even CNN has 60m followers on twitter...Musk saw that twitter is being mismanaged...he wants to run a tight ship....
Musk doesn't know what mismanaged is. :)

But "everyone is still using Twitter" doesn't in any way change the "people thought Twitter was a hellsite" before.
People have been complaining about Twitter for ages - there is a lot of shit people don't like about it, even if they use it because they like some things about it.
That hasn't changed under Musk. The only question is whether or not it just settles into being a new audience, drops or increases in reach, he turns it into Twitch or whatever some of his fanboys thing he is doing, or it collapses.
 

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You guys are ignoring markets like India, South America, and Asia. Once he figures out how to give them the content they are after and connects them through starlink without need for physical infrastructure on earth other then a phone it over for the other social media networks.

 

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Musk doesn't know what mismanaged is. :)

But "everyone is still using Twitter" doesn't in any way change the "people thought Twitter was a hellsite" before.
People have been complaining about Twitter for ages - there is a lot of shit people don't like about it, even if they use it because they like some things about it.
That hasn't changed under Musk. The only question is whether or not it just settles into being a new audience, drops or increases in reach, he turns it into Twitch or whatever some of his fanboys thing he is doing, or it collapses.
compared to what the previous management has done....yeah, he's probably doing better... it was overstaffed and people don't want to show up to work and prefer to stay home collecting 100k?
 

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You should worship him.

The irony in telling people here how they are all being brainwashed by politics WHILE actually being brainwashed by a billionaire is not lost on anyone.

This is extremely naive. Nothing Elon says has any basis in science and he has never delivered anything he says. Its all BS he says to spin outrageous stories to help sell his crappy products and stay relevant.



This right here isnt true. The guy has a degree in physics and economics. They are not engineering. He did not start Tesla. He pushed the owners out after he became CEO and had an out of court settlement that gave him the right to call himself co founder. He did not start paypal, rather his company x.com was bought out by confinity which owned paypal. I could go on about all the lies he has spewed over the years.



x.com merged with confinity (paypal) in 2000. lol.
I believe in people who support humanity, the earth, love and care about the well being of others vs constantly spewing negate energy. I will support anyone who I believe represent this regardless how naive you think it be. You saying musk is a billionaire who is this and that means nothing when his actions and results prove otherwise. You are nothing but noise on here because all you spew is negative energy. I have not see you post anything positive constructive or give examples how we can improve humanity. Meaning all you are is a worthless keyboard warrior with 0 solution 0 credibility 0 results.
 

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You guys are ignoring markets like India, South America, and Asia. Once he figures out how to give them the content they are after and connects them through starlink without need for physical infrastructure on earth other then a phone it over for the other social media networks.

The Indian govt has banned starlink. And Twitter is already in India and other countries.
 
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I believe in people who support humanity, the earth, love and care about the well being of others vs constantly spewing negate energy. I will support anyone who I believe represent this regardless how naive you think it be. You saying musk is a billionaire who is this and that means nothing when his actions and results prove otherwise. You are nothing but noise on here because all you spew is negative energy. I have not see you post anything positive constructive or give examples how we can improve humanity. Meaning all you are is a worthless keyboard warrior with 0 solution 0 credibility 0 results.
Elon doesn't care about humanity. Saying he cares about humanity really only means one thing - do things that stoke his ego, and be known as some sort of visionary saviour. Both of which he is not. How can you say you care about humanity while not giving a shit about people around you? What exactly has he accomplished to benefit humanity? Literally zilch. You are really behaving like a member of a cult rather than some free thinking individual.
 
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