Will Twitter survive? - Your thoughts

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hamermill

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In a place far, far away
Hopefully no because I’ve kinda of enjoyed not being drawn into WWW 3


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dirtyharry555

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The fact that it's still operating with a fraction of its former staff suggests it was bloated and cutting the fat was long overdue (plenty former employees who may be serving coffee at Starbucks soon). Will it survive? I can't see the future... but it remains the 4th largest site on the internet.

Buying the social media platform wasn't the wisest choice for a guy on the autism spectrum.

The BabylonBee's take on things is the most relevant for the moment. lol
 

mandrill

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The fact that it's still operating with a fraction of its former staff suggests it was bloated and cutting the fat was long overdue (plenty former employees who may be serving coffee at Starbucks soon). Will it survive? I can't see the future... but it remains the 4th largest site on the internet.

Buying the social media platform wasn't the wisest choice for a guy on the autism spectrum.

The BabylonBee's take on things is the most relevant for the moment. lol
That entails thinking that the former management was so incompetent that they retained 4 or 5 times the # of staff that was needed for no apparent reason. That doesn't strike me as a reasonable assumption. One must assume that a successful site is managed appropriately and that Musk is either cutting back drastically on service level or that Musk - a newcomer to the business, known to be previously erratic - has no idea what he is doing.
 
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hamermill

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That all sounds about right.
Hopefully no to trump as well.

Remember the Op posted do you think Twitter will survive and I said “Hopefully no because I’ve kinda of enjoyed not being drawn into WW 3”

If that space Karen allows trump to get back on, all trump will do is spew his craziness, cause chaos, support Russia, etc. which in turn will mess up the world even more.
 

Valcazar

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The fact that it's still operating with a fraction of its former staff suggests it was bloated and cutting the fat was long overdue (plenty former employees who may be serving coffee at Starbucks soon).
Why would you think that?
It isn't the kind of thing that would just fall apart overnight.

Have outages gone up?
Have their been security vulnerabilities?
Will all these escalate given there is no longer sufficient staff?
How are ads being handled given the staff that was doing that is also probably gone?
How are new features being developed if the R&D team has been sacked?

 

gdurham

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Twitter is an obvious Tax avoidance scheme by Elon. He's probably either liquidating some stake in either Tesla or Space X on which he would owe 44b in Taxes. He could tank Twitter and sell at a 43.99999b loss to his brother (since it's private now, he could sell to anyone he wants) and effectively pay $0 tax. Then, when Twitter takes off again, him/brother would get the $44b or more back if they wanted to flip it. Something alone these lines. He's even joking about bankrupting the company. Does that sound like a businessman?

These are common tactics rich people use. Singers, athletes, movie stars, rappers, anyone who's earning millions have tactics similar to this in order to pay $0 tax. They earn their income in their LLC and in reality pay less tax than a McDonald's worker on W2 payroll.

For ex, I would be completely shocked if Taylor Swift paid more tax than a McDonald's worker. I would be surprised if she recieved more than 10 W2 paystubs in her entire life.
That is not how tax works.
 

dirtyharry555

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Why would you think that?
It isn't the kind of thing that would just fall apart overnight.

Have outages gone up?
Have their been security vulnerabilities?
Will all these escalate given there is no longer sufficient staff?
How are ads being handled given the staff that was doing that is also probably gone?
How are new features being developed if the R&D team has been sacked?

Nothing has changed other than useless staff have been let go by the thousands.

 

mandrill

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Nothing has changed other than useless staff have been let go by the thousands.

Again if those staff were hired and maintained by professional managers over a long period of time, it's difficult to assume that they were "useless". You have to assume that they performed useful jobs. I can see if there was a 5% or 10% layoff that there may have been some over-staffing. But these terminations have been huge and abrupt and poorly handled. Even if you get all woody about an alpha male telling his underlings that they have to work twice as many hours or hit the road, the staff that say fuck you and quit have wrongful dismissal lawsuits. Elmuss simply cannot legally change the conditions of hiring unilaterally and abruptly like that.

The real situation seems to be that Elmuss has fired many workers who are in fact necessary and Twitter will degrade and fall apart bit by bit over the next few months. There will be service issues, security issues, marketing issues, etc. And eventually the users will migrate to another platform, leaving Twitter worthless.

Elmuss has a track record of doing bizarre shit over the last few years. Could be that he's sicker mentally than people thought.
 

Valcazar

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I have little reason to trust Dorsey's "blue sky" thing - it isn't like Twitter didn't have all kinds of problems when he was in charge.
Mastadon has some serious limitations but seems the best thing so far.
I'm keeping an eye on some of the other projects floating around out there.
 

krealtarron

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Nothing has changed other than useless staff have been let go by the thousands.
Yeah because your dumbass would know who is useful and who isn't. foh. lol

That said, I think while Twitter might have some issues in the short term it will be fine in due course. Elon will eventually rehire more people.
 
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