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Valcazar

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If the GOP was serious about its Trump problem they would not be supporting Ron since he is just Trump Lite, they should be supporting members of the GOP that never supported Trump like Romney, Chenny, and maybe Paul Ryan, the so-called RINOs.
But that's the point to them.
Ron is Trump Lite - he can keep the base that like Trump but not be Trump and so not lose the people who don't like him.

They don't think that the policies and ideas are the problem - they think Trump is vulgar and a loser.

The only republicans that can debate with trump on stage and not get ass raped are those that never took part in Trumpism. Poor Ron will get molested on stage against Trump.
I agree that DeSantis would get hammered in a debate. The goal would have to be to force Trump out of the running before a debate happened.
 

Valcazar

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Clinton was not well, but still could have served as POTUS as she is sharper than Reagan and Biden combined.
Clinton may have got the popular, but so what, it is not a guarantee of occupying the Oval Office now is it .
Trump is loved by a hell of a lot of sycophants , something that cannot be said of DeSantis . Trump rescued a nearly comotose GOP party and brought them to and from the White House . Florida is not America and DeSantis is a neophyte.
You still haven't shown any evidence that Clinton was "not well".
Where is this stuff about her doctors telling her not to run coming from?

Clinton won the popular, yes. The US system is dumb, but her winning the popular vote by a solid margin kind of fucks up the "everyone was tired of her and didn't want her so she was a disaster".

Why do you think the GOP was comatose in 2016?
 

mandrill

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I am waiting to hear from terb “conservatives” who for the last two years were trying to convince us not to ridicule them for liking trump as “trump was not relevant anymore”.
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They hidin' out, man.

No one knowin' where them dudes be at! They gone!
 

mandrill

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But that's the point to them.
Ron is Trump Lite - he can keep the base that like Trump but not be Trump and so not lose the people who don't like him.

They don't think that the policies and ideas are the problem - they think Trump is vulgar and a loser.
Yeah, DeSantis is all the good Trump stuff that sells - bigotry, stupidity, immigrant-hate, political stunts - and none of the bad Trump stuff that may not be working anymore - election denial, January 6, stealing top secret government papers, losing successive elections, not denying that COVID vaxxing works.

It's like the rich guy ditching the 50 year old wife whose ass has become too fat and marrying the 18-year-old college student who looks exactly like the older wife looked 30 years ago.
 
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danmand

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It's like the rich guy ditching the 50 year old wife whose ass has become too fat and marrying the 18-year-old college student who looks exactly like the older wife looked 30 years ago.
Now you are explaining it in a way I can understand. Thank you.
 

Leimonis

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Yeah, DeSantis is all the good Trump stuff that sells - bigotry, stupidity, immigrant-hate, political stunts - and none of the bad Trump stuff that may not be working anymore - election denial, January 6, stealing top secret government papers, losing successive elections, not denying that COVID vaxxing works.

It's like the rich guy ditching the 50 year old wife whose ass has become too fat and marrying the 18-year-old college student who looks exactly like the older wife looked 30 years ago.
I’m afraid it’s more like a rich guy is dreaming of being able to afford to ditch the wife and is praying she’d leave or die but she doesn’t go anywhere
 

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lomotil

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You still haven't shown any evidence that Clinton was "not well".
Where is this stuff about her doctors telling her not to run coming from?

Clinton won the popular, yes. The US system is dumb, but her winning the popular vote by a solid margin kind of fucks up the "everyone was tired of her and didn't want her so she was a disaster".

Why do you think the GOP was comatose in 2016?
There are videos of Hillary Clinton online collapsing or near collapse in 2016. One incident was explained by her team as being pneumonia.

The GOP before Trump was lethargic, exhausted, rudderless and had lost leaders like the renegade “ Tea Party”. Trump cleaned house, and the hapless GOP was forced to jump on Trump’s Moby Dick momentum which took a severely adulterated Republican Party to the Oval Office.
The fact that Trump won in 2016 and still survives today enough to run in 2024 despite all that has transpired, indicates that without, the GOP may again have to go on life support for awhile.
Trump remains a mirror image of what is a significant portion of what is the face of America today.
 

toguy5252

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Trump remains a mirror image of what is a significant portion of what is the face of America today.
Without doubt the dumbest comment of the year so far. Either that or the saddest indictment of America i have ever heard.
 

lomotil

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Without doubt the dumbest comment of the year so far. Either that or the saddest indictment of America i have ever heard.
Please explain why Trump won in 2016 and six years latter, he is still front and centre ?
It is not my statement which is an inconvenient that is dumb !
 

toguy5252

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Please explain why Trump won in 2016 and six years latter, he is still front and centre ?
It is not my statement which is an inconvenient that is dumb !
Do you really think that a pathological narcissist who sits on a golden toilet, serial adulterer, a serial bankrupter of companies, mutiple crimibnal and quasi-crimnal investigations, his foundation was found to have been defrauding the public and the country, etc. is the mirror image of what is the face of America today. Seriously?
 

lomotil

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Do you really think that a pathological narcissist who sits on a golden toilet, serial adulterer, a serial bankrupter of companies, mutiple crimibnal and quasi-crimnal investigations, his foundation was found to have been defrauding the public and the country, etc. is the mirror image of what is the face of America today. Seriously?
Who elected this person and why is he still there ?
 

dirtydaveiii

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Paul Ryan jumps ship. Let.Bitch McConnel and cancun Cruz know when it's safe to jump. Does this mean Liz Cheney will.be apologized to and brought back into the party ? Nah the GOPee has no class
 

lomotil

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LOL. Your mirror is obviously cracked or one of those fun house mirrors.
So who put the fucker there in the first place, why is he still allowed to remain? Perhaps because misery loves company and birds of a feather flock together. Do you have any ideas of your own?
 
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