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Ok. So I’m going to have to pause it. I’m 30 min in and I don’t know how much I can take. This is what I got from this pseudo ass shit so far.




It begins saying our bondage is due to the curse of Israel. It says it was a 400 year bondage from 1619 to 2019. The slave trade began in 1444 and Africans were sent to America as early as 1526. So this is inaccurate. We weren’t enslaved because of a curse. It was for profit.



They then ask. Who are the real children of Israel. Then show aborigine Australians, Kenyans, Zulu’s, Mexicans, Brazilians, Haitians and African Americans. Judaism is not the main religion in many of these nations. Practicing the religion of the OT doesn’t make you those people.


The documentary says we have been tricked with Islam and Christianity. As if Judaism is inherently African or black. They take this stance because they believe in the idea of Gods chosen people.


Different African tribes have had religious mythos just as long. A lot of the creator Deities like Oludumare don’t involve themselves in human affairs so a Gods chosen people is a foreign concept.


They are using Genesis 10:6-12 to claim the fathers of nations. We have genetic testing now. We don’t need to understand who we are from a book that we predate. We are the original man.

They are now speaking of skin color. They are using race science in an idea that should be based on genetic science. People who live in equatorial zones will have dark skin.

Now they are trying to find out the ethnicity of a mythological person in Abraham. It’s like finding Spider-Man’s race.

Now he’s trying to equate Sumerian civilization to the Palestinians of the Bible. That has been debunked for years. I won’t waste my time.

I have to pause this. I can’t do anymore. I’ll finish later. Well I may not. Lol

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Holy Shit. I'm impressed.

It's nice to see the ability to logically analyse flawed arguments.
 

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Because we have the ability to read summaries and decide not to support racist bullshit that makes even less sense than flat earth.
So basically you don't know or haven't witnessed anything.

You are just taking someone else word on it.

Your opinion means nothing.
 
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I haven’t seen the film and do not plan to. It is not something I want to devote 3.5 hours of my life to when I can get the gist of it from the screenshots I have seen and the observations of others I trust. That probably leaves me with less credibility to win an argument on terb but otherwise I feel like I am making the right choice.
 
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Just finished the movie now. I can't recommend it,lol. Man that was tedious and long.

At the 23:35 minute mark it displays what they're calling the five major falsehoods that the jews have established to conceal their nature and protect and power.

1. The Jews are Israelites and thus God's chosen people
2. jesus Christ was a Jew
3. 6 million people were killed in a holocaust
4.That all races are equal or that all are brothers
5. That Jews are just another religious group

They follow that with this lovely quote. Which I have to wonder the context of.

''We are obliged to conceal our own particular character and mode of life so that we will be allowed to continue our existence as a parasite amongst nations''

Harold Wallace Rosenthal

The movie quotes this Rosenthal guy again at 2:25. ''At first by controlling the banking system we were able to control corporation capital. Through this we acquired total monopoly of the movie industry radio networks and the newly developing television media. The printing industry, newspaper, periodicals and technical journals had already fallen into our hands. The richest plumb was later to come when we took over the publication of all school materials.Through these vehicles we could mold public opinion to suit our own purposes. ''

It goes on further quoting him. You get the general drift though. It paints Jewish folk in as bad a light as you can imagine.

The whole message is that everything that we have been taught is an organized lie. To suppress the fact that the true Hebrew Israelites were black or Negroes. They were sold off as slaves and dispersed throughout the world. Jewish people actually come from wheat we know as Eastern Europe and Asia.

The film makes a concerted effort to prove these statements.

Yikes!!
 

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If he is not outright advocating violence or making death threats then just let it be, the free market will deal with him.
 
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So basically you don't know or haven't witnessed anything.
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Except quotes from the movie that the makers would have challenged if untrue. I don't have to stick my dick in a light socket to know it's a stupid idea but even that would just be hurting myself and not promoting hatred. C-M watched much of it and stated his opinion too (which you've ignored).

You've said you watched it. Do you deny those statements were in it?

Can't wait to see what your next excuse is.
 

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What's your opinion on the NBA's handling of Donald Sterling and Robert Sarver?
Exactly. The NBA has shown a willingness to force owners out of the league for this kind of behaviour…so they are able to look Kyrie in the eye and honestly state that they are holding him to the same standard as they hold themselves.

I don’t know how Kyrie is gonna come back. His latest written apology was kinda hollow and half-assed…he obviously still believes this stuff and in his mind is being persecuted. Trying to “educate” Kyrie and have him meet with the ADL will do about as much good for him as attending the Holocaust Museum did for Marjorie Taylor Greene- ie, fuck all.

At some point, Kyrie will have to face the press and there is no way he is going to back down from his whole: “I can’t be anti-Semitic if I know who I am” schtick. He won’t let go of this any more than he would compromise on being anti-vaxx or believing that the world is flat.

The NBA is ultimately going to have to decide whether it can have an openly anti-Semitic player in the league and I think the answer is probably No.
 
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The NBA is ultimately decide whether it can have an openly anti-Semitic player in the league and I think the answer is probably No.
And that's the beauty of free speech. You know exactly what everyone is saying if they choose to air it out.

Then you can make your choice whether to support them in their endeavors or not. Or in this case whether to employ them or not.

I discussed this movie with a friend of mine who's mother was born in the Sudan today.

He had never heard of the film but had heard that Kanye and Kyrie were involved in some controversy.

When I laid the theory on him that the original Israelites were Negroes he started laughing uncontrollably. I told him he was a Jew. Got a big double take there, lol.

Then I started thinking. If the author had just stuck to trying prove that theory without the blatant anti Jewish rhetoric then all would be okay for a hearty debate. But although he criticizes Catholicism and Islam as well. He doesn't do it with the same vigour and vile that he does with the Jewish faith.

Me thinks Kyrie is toast unless he falls on his sword.
 
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Except quotes from the movie that the makers would have challenged if untrue. I don't have to stick my dick in a light socket to know it's a stupid idea but even that would just be hurting myself and not promoting hatred. C-M watched much of it and stated his opinion too (which you've ignored).

You've said you watched it. Do you deny those statements were in it?

Can't wait to see what your next excuse is.
If they told you to stick your dick in the socket, you'd probably do it, no hesitation asked and ridicule those who question it. You'd probably pull up a website showing this is why it needs to be done.

C-M posted another persons review.

What statements? Lord knows what you're crying about now.

He quite clearly stated his views can't be anti-semitic because he's a Jew and they're not.
Through the bible and other sources, that's the conclusion he's come to.

What's your opinion on the NBA's handling of Donald Sterling and Robert Sarver?
They made a direct statement with no room for interpretation.

Kyrie found a documentary with tons of info in it. As a public figure he shouldn't have endorsed such a controversial movie, but I don't believe he did it to be anti-Semitic.
 

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In order for Irving to be reinstated, he must reportedly:

  • Issue a verbal apology and condemn the antisemitic film
  • Share the apology on social media
  • Complete sensitivity trainings
  • Meet with Jewish leaders in the Brooklyn community
  • Meet with Tsai
  • Make a $500,000 donation to anti-hate causes
These requirements are coming from the Nets, not the league — which told Yahoo Sports last week it was “unaware of the depth of what Irving was asked to fulfill by the team.”
“I don’t believe Kyrie Irving is antisemitic,” Brown said, via The Globe. “I don’t think people in our governing bodies think he’s antisemitic. He made a mistake. We understand from an outside perspective how important sensitivity is to not condone hate speech and not condone anything of that nature. It’s sensitivity to the dialect around that.
“We don’t want to stand up for somebody in order to not condemn hate speech, but I don’t believe Kyrie Irving is antisemitic. And hopefully the NBA feels the same way … There is an interesting distinction between what somebody says verbally and what somebody posts as a link on a platform with no description behind it. Some people will argue there’s no difference and some people will argue there is a difference. There’s no language in our CBA. There’s no rules against it. This is uncharted territory for everybody, and everybody is trying to figure out the difference between the two.”
 

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If they told you to stick your dick in the socket, you'd probably do it, no hesitation asked and ridicule those who question it. You'd probably pull up a website showing this is why it needs to be done.

C-M posted another persons review.

What statements? Lord knows what you're crying about now.


Through the bible and other sources, that's the conclusion he's come to.


They made a direct statement with no room for interpretation.

Kyrie found a documentary with tons of info in it. As a public figure he shouldn't have endorsed such a controversial movie, but I don't believe he did it to be anti-Semitic.
Gee, that's a lot of word salad to defend overt antisemitism. You claim to have watched that trash; do you claim that the quoted statements aren't actually in it?

Kyrie promoted an antisemitic video with absolute trash accusations and his employer feels it goes against NBA policy condemning people for hateful statements. They've punished team owners for it so they sure as hell are going to hold a well know conspiracy theorist accountable.

The league has been very proactive with the Black Lives matter movement and it follows that they hold an individual accountable for their racism.
 
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Me thinks Kyrie is toast unless he falls on his sword.
He won't and he'll use the whole thing as 'proof' about Jews trying to enslave black people.


p.s. There are black Jews. In the biblical era the religion spread to North-East Africa and during the late-Roman era, the Askumite Empire followed Judaism. There is even speculation about a small group further south that seems to have some Jewish-like traditions. That of course doesn't mean that every black person is descended from Jews. I also think that if Kyrie or anyone else wants to consider themselves Jewish, they can.

More importantly, none of that justifies the racist conspiracy theories pushed by some people in the Black Hebrew Israelite movement.
 

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Gee, that's a lot of word salad to defend overt antisemitism. You claim to have watched that trash; do you claim that the quoted statements aren't actually in it?

Kyrie promoted an antisemitic video with absolute trash accusations and his employer feels it goes against NBA policy condemning people for hateful statements. They've punished team owners for it so they sure as hell are going to hold a well know conspiracy theorist accountable.

The league has been very proactive with the Black Lives matter movement and it follows that they hold an individual accountable for their racism.
I only got through half. I'll get through the other half hopefully by next week. You can't have an opinion on anything. That would just make you fake, but you seem to be comfortable with that so I don't know.

I don't claim anything. If it is there it is there. Here is what you need to get in that peanut you call a brain. It's a 3.5hrs long movie. If all you can discuss is limited content that probably doesn't add up to 10 mins. It shows your ignorance and malicious intend.

And I'll tell you the reason why you do it. It's because you don't want to discuss the other facts in the movie, so you use the claims of antisemitism to discredit the whole film.

Again, They have punished team owners for what they have said. Kyrie posted a video that has a wide range of info and points. I know you know the difference, but since it goes against the agenda, you will side-step.

Come again with your Condition Loop.
 

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I only got through half. ...
And despite watching a big chunk, you still want to claim that their anti-semitic thesis isn't antisemitic? Sorry but the racist themes aren't obscure thrown in at the end of the movie but are the entire basis of the film. They don't promote a "range of info" but simply spew hatred and if you're halfway through and still pretend it isn't then you must either be completely ignorant or agree with them.

And I've been very clear, I'm not going to support a racist trash movie by watching it when the racist quotes from the movie are already well established.
 
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