Prominent conservatives issue 72 Page report rebutting Trump election claims

basketcase

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How come Bill Barr said there was no evidence of fraud?
How come when Rudy and Sydney took these claims to court it lost 60 times?
How come every 'lawyer' on rump's team who pushed these claims is now disbarred or a laughing stock?

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Because Hillary?
 
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jcpro

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LOL!!! The "prominent conservatives". There are a lot of them. Quick to cash in on books and seminars and even "educational" cruises. And even quicker to turn their backs on their "conservatism" when the conservative voters decide to chart their own course. Then, the prominent conservatives, those guardians of purity and orthodoxy, they run to CNN to become useful idiots who shit in their own nest. Yawn. One of the greatest side effects of the Trump's presidency was the unceremonial funeral for the "prominent conservatives "
 

jcpro

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Real conservatives raise money off the death of their ex wife.
And the lefties do their fundraising off the promise of the end of the world.
 

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And the lefties do their fundraising off the promise of the end of the world.
You mean with warnings of fascists trying to steal elections and to overthrow the government with armed gangs of white supremacists?
Or do mean with warnings of the christian taliban taking over the supreme court and taking away human rights?
Or do you mean with warnings that the Koch brothers and oil & gas would rather keep making buckets of money rather than stop screwing over the climate?

So many right wing ideas to fundraise off.
 

Dutch Oven

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Dutch, if the courts thought that those cases were anything but 100% horseshit, they would have overturned the election.
I have more than 60 reasons not to believe that. There's only one court in the US with the balls to overturn an election, and they ducked it because of their own concerns about how they would be perceived by the public and treated by the media (as we are now seeing played out over the abortion issue).

It's preposterous to suggest that they wouldn't.
It's preposterous to claim they would. You'd have to believe that judges would not be influenced by the backlash that would be directed against them if they were perceived to interfere in the democratic process. That's why it's far easier to set the legal bar so high and define the reviewable issues so narrowly that they don't even have to entertain challenges to election integrity on their merits.

Do you just feel compelled to gaslight about the reliability and independance of the judiciary because you are a "true believer", or do you just feel compelled to do so because you have self identified as a lawyer? If the latter, I guess you've painted yourself into the corner (unnecessarily) of constantly claiming "nothing to see here".
 

dirtydaveiii

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And the lefties do their fundraising off the promise of the end of the world.
The difference between left wing and right wing is that the left wing used money om causes while the right wing uses it on personal expenses including legal fees
 

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I have more than 60 reasons not to believe that. There's only one court in the US with the balls to overturn an election, and they ducked it because of their own concerns about how they would be perceived by the public and treated by the media (as we are now seeing played out over the abortion issue).

It's preposterous to claim they would. You'd have to believe that judges would not be influenced by the backlash that would be directed against them if they were perceived to interfere in the democratic process. That's why it's far easier to set the legal bar so high and define the reviewable issues so narrowly that they don't even have to entertain challenges to election integrity on their merits.
Do you just feel compelled to gaslight about the reliability and independance of the judiciary because you are a "true believer", or do you just feel compelled to do so because you have self identified as a lawyer? If the latter, I guess you've painted yourself into the corner (unnecessarily) of constantly claiming "nothing to see here".
You can believe whatever you want, but mistrusting 60 courts, all of which found that Trump had no case to overturn the election results is silly-billy-willy-nilly.

As Valcazar stated, you believe only what you wish to believe and any judge or official who doesn't do what you want is a "coward" or a "traitor".
 
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You can believe whatever you want, but mistrusting 60 courts, all of which found that Trump had no case to overturn the election results is silly-billy-willy-nilly.

Talk about silly. I trust the courts. I trust that they are loathe to interfere with election results. They have behaved exactly as I expected. Seems to to me that you are holding on to a belief that does not align with reality. Truly silly.

As Valcazar stated, you believe only what you wish to believe and any judge or official who doesn't do what you want is a "coward" or a "traitor".
Cowardly, yes, but no more or less so than the average person who would worry about and try to avoid public criticism. Traitor? Not the right word for commonplace "go along to get along" cowards. I'm sure judges feel that staying out of political issues is their way of respecting democracy. Not exactly the motive of a traitor, however misguided.
 

jcpro

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The difference between left wing and right wing is that the left wing used money om causes while the right wing uses it on personal expenses including legal fees
ROTFLMFAO!!! The BLM just gave you the example of "causes" .
 

dirtydaveiii

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ROTFLMFAO!!! The BLM just gave you the example of "causes" .
Those right wing lies have been debunked just like the big lie, pizza gate, Jewish space lasers and any other nonsense you read on fox, breibart and whatever other nonsensical websites you read. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...claim-blm-co-founders-real-estate/7241450002/
To shed some light on your condition is scientific American, whom you most likely don't believe because it's science after all. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...claim-blm-co-founders-real-estate/7241450002/
 

jcpro

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Those right wing lies have been debunked just like the big lie, pizza gate, Jewish space lasers and any other nonsense you read on fox, breibart and whatever other nonsensical websites you read. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...claim-blm-co-founders-real-estate/7241450002/
To shed some light on your condition is scientific American, whom you most likely don't believe because it's science after all. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...claim-blm-co-founders-real-estate/7241450002/
ROTFLMFAO!!

 

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The more I think about this, the more I realize the paradox of what those who believe the election was rigged seem to miss. It's this: The DNC was smart enough to rig the election so Biden is president, but not smart enough to make people like Mitch McConnell. Lindsey Graham or even Susan Collins.

It reminds me of the white supremacists/anti-semite paradox about Jews. They are inferior, yet they control everything. How would that be possible???

But, they you have the right-wing media echo chamber, like Fox, who constantly repeated Trump's lies about the election, but never raised these issues. Just absolute dereliction of duty as a news organization...
Fox is news as feces is food. Sure you can injest it but that doesn't mean it won't make you sick
 

dirtydaveiii

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ROTFLMFAO!!

Did you read the article ? Nothing was done against the law it isn't illegal to hire people you know for a non profit or for a non profit to invest in real estate. She paid rent the two times she used the properties for personal use. You pretend like this is one of trumps illegal charity schemes but the article you posted proves it is not
 
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I have more than 60 reasons not to believe that. There's only one court in the US with the balls to overturn an election, and they ducked it because of their own concerns about how they would be perceived by the public and treated by the media (as we are now seeing played out over the abortion issue).


It's preposterous to claim they would. You'd have to believe that judges would not be influenced by the backlash that would be directed against them if they were perceived to interfere in the democratic process. That's why it's far easier to set the legal bar so high and define the reviewable issues so narrowly that they don't even have to entertain challenges to election integrity on their merits.
That's so weird. I seem to recall a Supreme Court interfering with the democratic process just over 20 years ago...Who knows what would have happened if the court allowed the re-count instead of quashing it.

Here is the reality: There is zero evidence of massive election fraud. In fact, all the fraud that was uncovered seemed to have come from GOP voters. People who used their dead parent's ballots or voted in the wrong polling area, or voted twice. All those court cases were thrown out because they lacked merit. They had no evidence, or the arguments those top gun lawyers made were not considered valid. But, we also know that the right's, and especially Trump's, hurt feelings are enough to pretend this was the greatest miscarriage of justice and the largest election fraud ever to be seen since the shenanigans of North Korea's last election. There is no smoke. Just a lot of people saying they thought they saw smoke, or expected to see smoke. And this was apparently enough for Trump to attempt a coup and insurrection.

So, I ask this: what should be investigated? Is anyone surprised that Trump lost? I mean, he did such a piss poor job as President, especially during the COVID outbreak that millions of people voted for Biden. Some may have held their noses.
 

jcpro

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Did you read the article ? Nothing was done against the law it isn't illegal to hire people you know for a non profit or for a non profit to invest in real estate. She paid rent the two times she used the properties for personal use. You pretend like this is one of trumps illegal charity schemes but the article you posted proves it is not
Yes, grifting is often within law. BUT, don't tell me lefties don't grift. ROTFLMFAO!!
 

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Fox is news as feces is food. Sure you can injest it but that doesn't mean it won't make you sick
yet you all continue to speak with shit eaters on here as if they are normal and their breath doesn't smell
 
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